Marantz AV7005 - Page 277

This was due to bad RCA connections in a couple of older amps and acclimation to HD Audio's sharper high frequency. 80% bad connections though. The amps will be modified to take advantage of the balanced connections. The mains are already balanced and they are noticeably quieter than the other amplifiers.

If you don't understand the meaning of my signature line and instead of seeking accurate sound reproduction you enjoy modifying the artists' work "to taste", then by all means, alter the music's tonal balance differently for whatever type of music or movie you see fit.
Edited by m. zillch - 7/3/12 at 11:06am

Well put! Unfortunately the meaning of "fi", as in "Hi-fi", is completely elusive to so many here.
Edited by m. zillch - 7/3/12 at 11:05am

^^^

yup... sad, but true...

what's intriguing is that those who obsess over dac specs, etc., are the worst offenders...

Sorry to ask, but I can't find this in the manual...

How do you save Internet radio stations to Favourites?

Thanks in advance...

Didn't someone answer you on the previous page?

Nope. Just checked again.

I am using irule to control the Marantz AV7005. Since I have installed an ethernet cable I got feedback and do not need eye contact which is an awesome feature.

But one thing is missing for me. The IR remote has a button to dimm the display. You can turn it off. But I can't find a RS232/IP-Code for that. In the xls-file from Marantz is nothing like that. Did the code exist?
How do you guys handle this, when controling via LAN or RS232?

I answered about 10 minutes after you asked the first time on June 24.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1266725/marantz-av7005/8200_100#post_22163324

The denon 3311CI RS-232 file is missing that command as well. You might find an answer on RemoteCentral.com

Ahh...Sorry. How did I miss that?

At any rate, I see now that page 40 (middle/top) talks of Internet radio & Favorites.
Thing is, if I hit the "Memory" button on the remote, this just toggles the surround mode as it shares the same button...

@ jdsmoothie
unfortunately I haven't found that code on remotecentral.com.

I don't understand why the command is missing. You can control everything without open the menu, but dimming the display is not possible via IP

The internet radio station must first be stored in memory and then when selected from memory and playing the station, press the MEMORY button.

Will this help?

http://www.remotecentral.com/cgi-bin/mboard/rs232-ip/thread.cgi?110

I've tried a few and they wont work.

The code looks different to my codes, too.
Example, Cursor up:
Link: @CUR:1
My code: MNCUP\x0D

From iRule's website, it appears you can use an IR learner (~$75) connected to a laptop and then just press the Display button on the stock AV7005 remote to add the command to the iRule database.

http://support.iruleathome.com/customer/portal/articles/473957
Edited by jdsmoothie - 7/4/12 at 10:48am

I know that, but this allows you to learn the IR commands. The IR-Commands are not the problem. I have the dimm-code but only for IR!

What I need is the code for RS232 or IP, which is the same. Because of controlling die AV7005 complete via LAN. Thats why I'am need the code for IR or RS232.
Only for dimming I need to glue a IR-Emitter on the front of the AV7005. All other functions are controlled via LAN.

I have an WF2IR.

The Problem is, the IR-Learner only can learn IR-codes from original remote. It's not possible to learn an RS232/IP-Code from remote. There are exist two types of codes. At first, the IR-Codes, which can learned from original remote. And then the codes to control via LAN (IP) oder RS232. The second code is not the same as the IR code, but for LAN (IP) and RS232 the same. This is the code I need and you are not able to learn it from remote, you have to know it. Marantz has an excel-sheet with codes. But for IP/RS232 the code to dimm the display is missing.

EDIT
Thank you for helping me. I've got an answer from Marantz.
Marantz said, that there is noe command for Display-control via IP. So it is not possible to control via IP, atm.
Edited by Memphis999 - 7/4/12 at 11:45pm

True, but Audyssey seems to be doing most of its work below 40Hz, which is the bottom for most music, and I'm not sure a bunch of digital room EQing is going to sound better than the source material with as little tinkering as possible. I also need to set the system up so two channel play back utilizes the woofers as they are intended, as the bottom of the three way system. Left and right not mono. There's a way to do this at the push of a button but I need to build some pads to level match the LF routes.

I've have heard some interesting things with Audyssey enabled during two channel. Double tracking and duets are better imaged and more independent of each other than "Off", but a decisive A-B between the AV7005 and a straight shot of analog from the player to the two channel pre-amp is pending. Audyssey seems to be boosting the whole signal by a solid 4 dB (some frequencies more) and there may have been some signal clipping as a result. It's tough to tell without a scope, but some distortion WAS present, and it certainly wasn't the speakers or amps. This leads to concerns about headroom for quieter recordings. Dire Straits: "Brothers in Arms" has a remarkably low intrinsic loudness, and to get the SPL up the AVP would be running at around 8 to 10 dB, and the signal clipping I thought I heard on a different disc took place at 6 dB. Granted everything but the two seconds of distortion during a crescendo sounded great.

There are too many "ifs" to say which will be better. Objectivity will be the goal here. Time will tell.

But in response to your quip: No, my room doesn’t care. But the question is not that. The question is whether the AV7005 is good enough at what it does to trump a well mixed recording with minimal “tinkering”.

Has the Marantz av7005 replacement been announced yet? I heard that Dennon has theirs? If so what is the model number and how is it etter? Thanks

@pwz...

sorry... you really need to gain an understanding of room acoustics...

i repeat... your room does not care whether you are playing "music" or "movies"... it's all "sound waves" as far as it is concerned...

"objectively", this is well established...

The AV7005 successor will be the AV7007 and just as was the case with the 7005/3311CI similarity, so to will the 7007 be similar to the 3313CI. AFAIK, it's not expected to be released until early fall.

You don't know anything about the room. You don't have any idea what kind of correction is needed. You don't know if running the signal through digital processing is going to outweigh the cons. Exposure to lesser quality components, more signal wires exposed to possible interference, manipulation of the recording. You have NO bearing on whether the system if faithful to the recordings without EQing because you haven’t heard it.

The mic given in the Audyssey kit looks to cost about 3 dollars. I have serious doubts about the components in the AV7005. It's all mid-grade circuitry. Everything in the two channel system is high end circuitry, built with simplicity and transparency as paramount. I've sat and listened to mastering EQs change sound for the worse simply by their presence alone. No level manipulation of any frequencies. Mastering EQs with FAR better build and component quality than the Marantz. So for you to sit there and tell me that I need to learn about room acoustics is absurd. What I'm catching is that you have determined without hearing any of the equipment that one set up will trump the other? Because one will have room EQing and the other wont?

Audyssey has done nice work timing the delay for HT, matching the levels of the speakers, and flattening out the bass response below 20Hz, but it has also given 3 different crossover settings for the center channel and two different crossover setting for the mains in various auto set-up runs with all other things being relatively equal. Tri-pod, ear level, main listening position. I won’t blindly turn my two channel system over to a possibly weaker component without listening to the two in A-B fashion first, regardless of how much you advocate room EQing, or how little you’ve decided I know about it.

If the construction of the equipment influences your enjoyment of the results (and there's nothing wrong with that), you might want to consider Anthem. Their proprietary room EQ is claimed to provide equivalent improvement in room acoustics.

@pwz...

good luck... you will need it....

No discussion, huh?

I guess I wouldn't want to argue your position either.

Thank you, Seldon

Sound is my primary concern. Design, parts, and construction do influence the sound.

Don't let it bother you. There is a small group of guys here that believe Audyssey is all you need for good/pure sound reproduction... almost to the point that you would suspect they are on Audyssey's payroll. They don't leave any room for the possibility that Audyssey is anything but infallible. Before the AV7005 I had a Pioneer Elite receiver and I think MCACC was significantly better than Audyssey and more transparent. And I do believe that accuracy is important... I just don't think Audyssey is particularly accurate and I am not convinced it faithfully reproduces the source material. I calibrate the video on my TV using a high quality light meter and enjoy doing so because I can measure the results, but the results are only as good as the measurement device. Audio calibration is a bit more iffy because (unfortunately) you have to trust the EQ software or purchase the tools (mics, signal generator, software, cables, etc) to verify the results are accurate and it is not as simple and straight-forward as video calibration.

I've gone back and forth between using Audyssey and using Pure Direct and, for the most part, I prefer Pure Direct. I find that Audyssey can be helpful for poor recordings (MP3's for instance) but otherwise I think Audyssey does more harm than good for high quality dynamic recordings. Now I do have some acoustic treatments and no subwoofer (large front towers instead) and your experience may differ especially if you have a subwoofer in your system. I agree with you that the benefits of Audyssey or any EQ software is more apparent with low frequency's and EQ is most helpful in terms of subwoofer integration.

Anyway, let your own ears be the judge and don't let any suggestions here sway you otherwise. The same guys that harp again and again about Audyssey actually can be helpful in other areas. You just have to get good at filtering out the BS.