Marantz AV7005 - Page 301

I see now that the AV8801 is an inferior unit, at least in that it has 25% fewer HD component video inputs. [The number one reason why I went with the AV7005, BTW, even though I predominantly use HDMI, currently.]
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If you have a keen ear and an adequate system, I suspect you'll note otherwise if you focus more on the upper, lower-midrange detail, specifically with massed strings in well recorded, 2-CH music (not movies). The depth of sound field and instrument localization is smeared, squashed, and less critically focused. This is undoubtedly due to their unfortunate choice in going with the new HDAM chips, probably selected in an attempt to appeal to a rather pedestrian, mass-market taste, geared more for those with less refined perceptive skills and easily impressed with boom and sizzle (but making up a much larger audience of perspective buyers, hence this move will probably benefit them financially).

Edited by m. zillch - 1/11/13 at 8:40am

Amazing and perceptive analysis of the 8801. The unit has been out for only a month, and already the DBT community has performed scientific DBT testing of the unit, even to the point of isolating the HDAM chips in the unit, and critically testing those. The speed at which this DBT science moves in the 21st century astounds us.

Science rules!

Unbelievably so.

I have met Paul Allen and partied with him at his home in California.. I can assure you of 2 things. 1. his theater does not look like this. 2. He will not share if he has been to the death star.... or not.

He has only one home?

He took over 5 lots on the side of the mountain including Rock Hudson's old home. Where the Rock's home is, there is now a recording studio. Massive in a word and accoustically perfect. You have to take a tram down from the main level to tthe studio. Never heard a room like it in my life. Paul also has a nice pool that over looks the Oceon and L.A.

Maybe it is on his little boat, Octopus?

Does anyone have XBMC DTS Master Audio using HDMI out on a PC working with the AV7005? I have successfully set up 5.1 channel sound, but no success with DTS 7.1.

When setting audio playback to DTS Master Audio in XBMC, I get stuttering/jerky video and no audio output. I also found that DTS Audio is listed as a supported sound format when checking sound properties via control panel (Vista), but that the test tone will not play wtith the DTS format...gives me a error that it cannot playback tone and will disable format. Test tone works fine for Dolby Digital.

I'm suspecting maybe a EDID issue between the AV7005 and my PC -

"ii. EDID issue (HDMI only)

If you're using HDMI then the properties of the AVR is reported to Windows via communication over HDMI known as HDMI Handshaking, this is a two way communication process via EDID. Sometimes this Handshaking is not carried out correctly so even though your hardware supports the necessary formats, the EDID information does not correctly report this. When this happens what is known as EDID override is needed, "

I purchased a 7005 last month, and I'm having an issue I can't resolve.

Unless I turn the TV on, the cable box (motorola DCX-3400) won't sync with the 7005.
The cable box blinks "DUI" and the "FL and FR" lights on the 7005 display blink, but I don't get any sound.

I did update the firmware last week (BTW...where is the firmware version info stored?) and the system worked fine.
I could turn on the cable box and the AV7005 and listen to music, without turning th TV on!

But, my happiness was short lived, yesterday the same thing started happening again, no sound unless I turn the TV on.

Once the signal is locked in, I can turn off the TV and the sound continues...

I've tried the using the HDMI connection from the cable box and the optical out, with the same results.

Anyone seen this before? Is there a solution?

Thank you.

^First I would try the HDMI out without ARC communication, #2.
Also in the setup menu, try changing "HDMI Audio out" in the "HDMI Setup", part of the "Manual setup" page to "Amp", not "TV".

["DUI" is the cable box's inability to form the letter "V", it means "DVI", as in the nearly equivalent precursor to the connection we now call "HDMI", BTW.] I think it flashes when the HDMI is severed or a new handshake is being established, but I'm not 100% sure about that.
Edited by m. zillch - 1/14/13 at 8:17am

Do you have anything plugged to HDMI #1 , even if it is powered off or unused? That can make a difference.

If "Amp" doesn't work then try the "TV" setting for the "HDMI Out" setting, then.

Also try using different turn on sequences: cable box first, wait for it to stabilize, then the AV7005, and vise versa.

What the HDMI "passthrough" is set to, I can't remember their terminolpgy for it, might be an issue. Good luck, I'm now out of ideas.

I am thinking of replacing my Lexicon with a 7005... Can the video processing be turned off completely? I have heard that it still leaves some artifacts... I am using a external scaler...

Scott

HDMI Hanshake Issue - Apple TV v3 & v2, Cablevision/Optimum Samsung Box SMT-C5320, and Pioneer Elite DVD

Works Sporatically????

SInce purchased the unit I had not been unable to get any HDMI source except Xbox360 to pass HDMI thru the AV7005. I moved xbox to different sources 1-5 on back and they all passed xbox fine. Marantz tech support (their advice) then said it was not the unit that was problem (although they couldnt explain Apple TV since they test with same unit/version t I have)

After hooking everything back up...ALL OF MY SOURCES WORKED FOR THE FIRST TIME as they should (even in passthrough mode!).

Problem is HDMI switching only lasted two days and now none of my HDMI source work again (sound or picture).

Any ideas what could be causing this? I have a 15ft 24awg cable HDMI from output 1 to Panasonic TX-50PX20U/P if it helps.

Crutchfield offered to take the unit for testing but I just got it and would prefer not to go that route when I still have return as an option. The unit is great and would love to keep it byt wife is ready to kill me since its been a month and she needs me to switch a cable eveytime to watch tv. running out of options. hope someone can help.

Thanks,

BR in NY
Edited by britchie911 - 1/14/13 at 4:43pm

The best solution with a cable/sat box to avoid HDMI handshake issues is to connect the box (HMDI) directly to the TV and box (optical) to the AVR for surround audio. Add a Harmony remote for WAF points and you're good to go on WAF front. For your other HDMI components, you could try the HDMI HDCP reset procedure listed in the post below as well as try changing out your HDMI cables with cables from either Monoprice or Blue Jeans Cables.


http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_L11

M. Zillch,

Thanks for you reply. I tried turning off the HDMI control, which means I lose the stand by-pass thru function I want. And the signals lock on (at least they did last nite).

I have the cable box connected to HDMI3 and have that as the port for the "TV" . When I turn the control function "on", a the TV HDMI setting changes to "- - -" and I don't get a picture.
So I tried setting up another input for the cable box and assigned HDMI3 to it. I get sound and picture but, if the TV isn't on I don't get a signal lock.

I'm going to take a look at the Outlaw Audios guide to the AV7005. Maybe I missed something in my setup.

I'm interested in this answer as well...

I run my Oppo 95 through my 7005 w/o any processing to a Panasonic plasma. I've never seen any artifacts. Prior to the AV7005, I had a MC-12, and the video went straight to my plasma in that case. No difference.

Hi Kevin,

Regarding Sound quality what was your experience when you replaced your Lexicon MC-12? Is the Marantz nearly the same, or you felt that something is missing? (And do you use the analog out from your oppo, or HDMI, which is better in your case? )

At first, because I was as hyper about this as a lot of people, I used 5.1 analog. But then I switched to HDMI (and using Audyssey), and never looked back. In the end, I felt the improvement with Audyssey was worth any potential degradation from going from the Oppo+Lexicon to the Marantz. But I fall into the camp that believes that most modern electronics from reputable manufacturers in a similar enough cost range all sound the same anyway. Loudspeakers sound different. Different room EQ solutions sound different. But the (Oppo+)Lexicon sounded great to me, and so does the AV7005.

For people asking about how to pass HDMI video without any modification, there are 3 ways:

A. Manual setup> HDMI setup>HDMI control "On", Standby source "Last" [And then power the AV7005 off. But yes, you also could have simply not put an AV7005 in your chain!].
B. Menu> Input setup>Video> Video convert "Off" [You'll have no OSD overlay, scaling, video adjustments, or video up conversion though.]
C. Pure Direct mode [ The video will disappear for a few seconds and go black, but then it will return.Analog video is severed, no Audyssey, etc. this way.]

I would love to know this as well, as I have loved Logic7 for years

Scott

I kinda did the same thing.. Went 5.1 Analog from the Oppo to the Lexicon with 5.1 Bypass turned on. The Oppo bass management sucks.... Then I just did a digital connection from the Oppo to the Lexicon and let the Lexicon convert the newer formats to Logic7... Sounded alot better. If the Oppo had real bass management, I would go back to analog

Scott

Hello everyone I just got a AV7005 and it is so nice. Night and day when compared to the pioneer I was using. I have been listening to all my music on my computer via media center. MY question is how can I control what folders are in media server. I would like to clean it up and have all my vinyl rips in one folder all my flac in a folder ect... Can someone point me in the right direction. Thanks

I know, I'd think of upgrading for the balanced inputs (long cables from my mixer), but, I always kind of prepare for the future (by having old component inputs) . The AV7005 is one of the few that have >3 component inputs. I also use it to get around the stupid HDCP police. If I want to watch TiVo and listen to streaming music I can't just hook up HDMI from the TiVo, the AppleTV — or just AirPlay from the AV — and have the AV do the matrix switching, and I'm not sure there'a Pre/Pro that can do it. Most fail the 'Dark Side of Oz' test: connect one blu-ray and one SACD (or universal) player, both by HDMI, and then with Dark Side of the Moon SACD and Wizard of Oz Blu-Ray watch Oz and listen to Dark Side — don't know of any that do .

Well finally getting around to setting up my theater room and get things mounted and ready, maybe for Super Bowl?

Someone local is a used av7005 for $750. Is that a good price?

Pretty good, I would buy at that price as long as it works perfectly and looks nice cosmetically. You can find some authorized dealers selling for ~$1000.

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Check out J River Media Center software. They have a thread on AVS.