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post #9391 of 9615
I have been looking through the manual and can't seem to find anything that can tell me if my AV7005 is doing any video processing.

I have an Oppo 103 and just picked up a new Panasonic Plasma so I want to make sure I don't have to much video processing in the chain.

Thanks
post #9392 of 9615
Functions provided by the AV7005's video processor are described on pages 2, 14, 18 and 70 of the owner's manual. You can also search for the word "video" in the pdf version of the manual, which can be downloaded for free from the Marantz Web site.

To minimize video processing, set "Video mode" to Game, "Video convert" to off and "i/p Scaler" to off. See page 70.
post #9393 of 9615
HDMI output went out on my 1 year old AV7005. Took it to my local authorized repair location. After a week they called to tell me the part was backorded by Marantz until November. They lobbied for and received approval for an exchange which I am now waiting on. Two weeks now without my home theater! Hopefull that exchange comes quickly.

Anyone have experience with a warranty exchange?
post #9394 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by horrornh View Post

...if my AV7005 is doing any video processing.

I have an Oppo 103 and just picked up a new Panasonic Plasma so I want to make sure I don't have to much video processing in the chain.

Thanks

If you turn "video convert" to off you bypass everything that is humanely possible, including the on-screen display graphics generation board. I'm pretty sure this board is quite innocuous however, after all, you are passing the image across a similar board in both the Oppo and the Panasonic, 24/7, without any ability to even bypass it [hence both units generate useful on screen info when you invoke it].

I leave my AV7005 with video conversion "on", so I still have on-screen display,. but leave the i/p scaler off.

I'm going to pre-emptively warn you that there may be some "golden-eye'd" people who will claim there is a discernible, visual degradation to the image, in real world use, using it the way I do, however I find their claims to be dubious.
post #9395 of 9615
I also always had video conversion to off.

As far as I know, the only thing you lose is the little volume video display when you change the volume. The AV7005 menus still show up on the display.
post #9396 of 9615
Clarification: If Video Conversion is "off" there are no on screen display overlays, superimposed over the currently selected source image, of things like: volume level changes, mute, input source selected, or the current surround sound mode selected. Additionally, instead of the main video sources' image in the background, one sees a black screen with overlaid text when one selects "menu" in this mode (but the current source's audio continues, despite the black screen).
Edited by m. zillch - 6/27/13 at 6:58pm
post #9397 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

I leave my AV7005 with video conversion "on", so I still have on-screen display,. but leave the i/p scaler off.
I do the same. I also don't think there is any image quality loss.
post #9398 of 9615
I'm having two intermittent problems with my AV7005:

1. Volume control will be unresponsive, both from the remote and the front-panel knob. If I recall correctly, this usually happens after I've changed sources, and there's no sound. I'm still able to select different inputs when this happens.

2. Inability to maintain AirPlay connection. I can select the AV-7005 as an AirPlay destination on my iPad 2 (Wi-Fi only, running iOS 6), but as soon as I press play (in any of several audio apps), the iPad disconnects.

Re-starting the AV-7005 eventually resolves both issues; sometimes it requires more than one restart.

All software and firmware on all devices is up-to-date.

Wireless network is not having any problems connecting to the internet and to my Synology DS-212j NAS drive (from which I'm streaming audio).

Before trying a processor reset on the AV-7005, I'm checking to see if anyone else has had these issues and found other solutions.

Thanks!

Bob
post #9399 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobK88 View Post

I'm having two intermittent problems with my AV7005:

1. Volume control will be unresponsive, both from the remote and the front-panel knob. If I recall correctly, this usually happens after I've changed sources, and there's no sound. I'm still able to select different inputs when this happens.

2. Inability to maintain AirPlay connection. I can select the AV-7005 as an AirPlay destination on my iPad 2 (Wi-Fi only, running iOS 6), but as soon as I press play (in any of several audio apps), the iPad disconnects.

Re-starting the AV-7005 eventually resolves both issues; sometimes it requires more than one restart.

All software and firmware on all devices is up-to-date.

Wireless network is not having any problems connecting to the internet and to my Synology DS-212j NAS drive (from which I'm streaming audio).

Before trying a processor reset on the AV-7005, I'm checking to see if anyone else has had these issues and found other solutions.

Thanks!

Bob

I think the 7005's AirPlay implementation is buggy. See whether this problem I noted last year sounds similar to your problem. AirPlay as the last activity before power-off triggered the bug for me.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1266725/marantz-av7005/7920#post_21818463

I contacted Marantz at the time, but they just denied it and wanted to blame my router and/or my ISP. Really.
post #9400 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by BobK88 View Post

I'm having two intermittent problems with my AV7005:

1. Volume control will be unresponsive, both from the remote and the front-panel knob. If I recall correctly, this usually happens after I've changed sources, and there's no sound. I'm still able to select different inputs when this happens.

2. Inability to maintain AirPlay connection. I can select the AV-7005 as an AirPlay destination on my iPad 2 (Wi-Fi only, running iOS 6), but as soon as I press play (in any of several audio apps), the iPad disconnects.

Re-starting the AV-7005 eventually resolves both issues; sometimes it requires more than one restart.

All software and firmware on all devices is up-to-date.

Wireless network is not having any problems connecting to the internet and to my Synology DS-212j NAS drive (from which I'm streaming audio).

Before trying a processor reset on the AV-7005, I'm checking to see if anyone else has had these issues and found other solutions.

Thanks!

Bob

1. Is the issue with HDMI sources only? There may be a handshake issue. Try doing a soft reset, which is to simply unplug the AVR for about 10 minutes.

2. More often then not this is an issue either with a setting in the router or the router simply not being robust enough so you may want to try a different router.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_G1
post #9401 of 9615
Thanks for the replies.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bweissman View Post

AirPlay as the last activity before power-off triggered the bug for me.

I'm not sure, but AirPlay might have been the previous input setting before the volume freeze - i.e., it happened when I switched from AirPlay to the FM Tuner. I'll take better notes next time.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

1. Is the issue with HDMI sources only? There may be a handshake issue. Try doing a soft reset, which is to simply unplug the AVR for about 10 minutes.

I don't recall for certain, but I don't think an HDMI source was involved in either issue. Again, I'll take better notes next time. And I'll certainly try a soft reset.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

2. More often then not this is an issue either with a setting in the router or the router simply not being robust enough so you may want to try a different router.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_G1

I doubt the router is involved because I've been using this exact setup for a year and a half without these issues.

Here's a thought: I wonder if the problem could have been caused by one of the devices (AV-7005, router, etc) overheating. We had a heat wave last week, and I don't have central air. The AV-7005 is in a cabinet with open front and back and at least two inches of clearance on top, but it did get a little toasty. I haven't had the problem since the heat broke.
post #9402 of 9615
I have the Marantz HDMI (ARC) channel plugged into my new Pioneer Plasma HDM (ARC) connection.

When I want to watch the TV and listen through the Marantz all I am getting is a stereo signal.

I can't seem to figure out how to get it to 5.1.

I got 5.1 on my older TV when I had the DirecTV box plugged in with an optical cable.

Thanks
post #9403 of 9615
^^
Check the Pioneer's Owner's manual as most TVs can only pass stereo 2.0 over HDMI(ARC) which is why an optical cable connection from the TV to the AVR is generally recommended to get DD 5.1.
post #9404 of 9615
Plugging the Direct TV box into the receiver with an optical cable will get you 5.1. Routing audio through the TV often does not work with ARC or an optical connection. Many TVs only pass stereo from external devices.
post #9405 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdsmoothie View Post

^^
Check the Pioneer's Owner's manual as most TVs can only pass stereo 2.0 over HDMI(ARC) which is why an optical cable connection from the TV to the AVR is generally recommended to get DD 5.1.

Thanks for the info, looks like I will just go from the DirecTV DVR to the 7005 with an optical
post #9406 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

Plugging the Direct TV box into the receiver with an optical cable will get you 5.1. Routing audio through the TV often does not work with ARC or an optical connection. Many TVs only pass stereo from external devices.

Thanks for the reply, looks like I will just set it up like my old one, was hoping to get rid of at least one wire.
post #9407 of 9615

Well one wire you can get rid of is the optical. HDMI from the sat box carries everything together, audio and video, to the AV7005. [At least that's how my cable box works] It, the AV7005,  then splits off the sound (5.1, etc.) and sends it off to your amplifiers and speakers, while it simultaneously sends the image to the display.

post #9408 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

Well one wire you can get rid of is the optical. HDMI from the sat box carries everything together, audio and video, to the AV7005. [At least that's how my cable box works] It, the AV7005,  then splits off the sound (5.1, etc.) and sends it off to your amplifiers and speakers, while it simultaneously sends the image to the display.

I like having the satellite box going directly to my TV. I don't want to have the to turn on the whole system just to watch TV for the brief periods I do during the week.
The pass through on the Marantz leaves something to be desired as far as its functionality goes.
post #9409 of 9615

If you leave the HDMI pass through assigned specifically to the sat box input, in what way are you compromising the functionality? You lost me there.

post #9410 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

If you leave the HDMI pass through assigned specifically to the sat box input, in what way are you compromising the functionality? You lost me there.

That's the problem I don't want to set the pass through to an assigned input, I would rather just plug everything into the 7005 and if I decide I don't want to listen to it with the whole system on I can.
I tried setting it up that way with my Roku, but I could never get any sound out of it with the 7005 off and I don't want to set to last as the tv my not be the last thing I am using.

Maybe I am reading the manual wrong, but the pass through seems pretty limited on how it functions.
post #9411 of 9615

If you set the pass through [or whatever they call it on this unit] to "Last" then the last thing you were using into the AV7005 (to listen to) passes through to the TV display via HDMI out. For example "Roku", or "DirecTv".  Forget about using "ARC". It is better for people who use antenna, not sat boxes like you use, and remember to think of your Roku as just another source, just like your disc player, for example, or your sat box.

 

A system becomes markedly more complex when one insists: "Sometimes I like using the speakers in the TV, but at other times I prefer using the speakers connected to my amplifier."

 

This insistence often:

 

- adds confusion and  ambiguity ("What WAS the last thing I (or an alternate housemate) had running through the AV7005? I can't remember or don't know what my spouse was watching while I wasn't here. DOH! Better power up the AV7005 just  to check."

- adds wiring

- adds complexity of switching, having to make input selections some times on the AV7005, other times the TV, and sometimes both

- adds two different master volume controls so more remotes are on the table

 

 

How about instead:

 

- having only one input selection to make. [the one on the AV7005. The TV stays locked to one input forever on]

- never touching the TV or its remote to do anything, other than turning it on or off. [if it has HDMI-CEC you might even be able to eliminate that need]

- having a single wire running to the TV. [HDMI]

- having a single volume control (hence remote) for all situations

- minimize wiring by sending the source signals just to the AV7005, not also the TV

 

When you use a TV display in this manner it is best to refer to it as "monitor", because that's how you are using it.


Edited by m. zillch - 7/19/13 at 11:03am
post #9412 of 9615
^^ Or, use a Harmony remote, which would allow the OP to easily listen to the TV speakers or the receiver with any device, under any set of circumstances, all powered by just one remote.
post #9413 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by BIslander View Post

^^ Or, use a Harmony remote, which would allow the OP to easily listen to the TV speakers or the receiver with any device, under any set of circumstances, all powered by just one remote.

"Any"? So if the last person using the AV7005 was watching a DVD, then turns the system off with the Harmony remote, but then person B comes into the room the next morning and selects "Roku using just the TV speakers" the Harmony will fire up the AV7005, select the Roku input, then power down the AV7005, allowing its "last passthrough" to be on the correct device? I find that hard to believe if it's using a typical, run of the mill, off the shelf programming.

post #9414 of 9615
^^ I may have slightly overstated the case for the Harmony, but only slightly. It will certainly work with the DirecTV box, where he runs HDMI to the display and a separate SPDIF audio connection to the AVR. He simply sets two Harmony activities for DirecTV, one that goes through the AVR and the other that doesn't. My Roku box has HDMI and optical and can be set up the same way. But, with devices that only have an HDMI connection, the setup would be more difficult. Of course, it may be possible for the Harmony to go through the steps required to make sure a specific device was the last one used, even if it wasn't.

At any rate, a Harmony will certainly meet the OP's desire to avoid the difficulties associated with HDMI CEC when it comes to hearing DirecTV through the AVR or the TV speakers. I guess I should have limited my post to the issue at hand rather than making a wider, blanket statement.
post #9415 of 9615
I just purchased a refurbished AV7005 and am pleased so far. There is one issue, however, which is confusing me. I have Charter Cable TV and use a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD Cable Box. The Cable Box HDMI output is connected to one of the AV7500's HDMI inputs and is assigned to the SAT source.

Unfortunately, there are no remote codes listed for the 8300HD or for any other cable boxes for that matter. How am I to control my cabe box using the RC011SR remote?

For now, I'm using a Harmony remote which works fine, but would like to have that ability as well in the RC011SR. Unfortunately, there are not remote codes for the 8300HD's remote to control the AV7005 either.
post #9416 of 9615
The sources stored in the stock remote are limited, but note that D&M is moving away from having the stock remotes control other devices as 3rd party remotes (eg. Harmony) are so much better at it. Fortunately for you, the AV7005 stock remote is a "learning" remote so you can teach the remote the codes from your cable box (p. 93 OM).
post #9417 of 9615
What am I doing wrong with the audio return feature? I want audio return from my Samsung un60d7000 to the marantz for Netflix. Using HDMI I get picture but no audio. What setting do I need? Thanks
post #9418 of 9615
I can't help with specific settings, but here are issues:
1. Make sure both device support ARC. It's an optional feature with HDMI 1..
2. Most TVs have one input that supports ARC. So, use that one.
3. Turn on HDMI Control (or whatever it is called) on both devices. The manuals should explain any specific settings you need to use.
post #9419 of 9615
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maccur View Post

What am I doing wrong with the audio return feature? I want audio return from my Samsung un60d7000 to the marantz for Netflix. Using HDMI I get picture but no audio. What setting do I need? Thanks

I would certainly hope you get picture as that comes from the TV. tongue.gif

Please review my post on ARC below ....

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1465528/the-official-2013-denon-e-series-x-series-avr-model-owners-thread-faq/0_100#user_E4
post #9420 of 9615
Got it. Activated Samsung Anynet. Thanks for the help!
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