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post #9511 of 9615
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Speaker adjust volume: in the menu were you adjust the individual channels, when i press UP or Down it sometimes continues by itself all the way UP ...scary.

That may be more of an IR remote issue. Do you own any sort of IR relay system or something which converts IR from RF?


Edited by m. zillch - 10/19/13 at 11:09pm
post #9512 of 9615
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Originally Posted by danny_isr View Post

I own this pre amp for about a year.
Honestly it's the buggiest thing i ever owned. I'm a verification engineer and there is no way in my company we would have released a device with so many little issues.

Pandora : cannot skip songs, it randomly changes the station type from Pandora to "internet Radio" . noticed exactly the same thing with my friend Denon 3311.

Speaker adjust volume: in the menu were you adjust the individual channels, when i press UP or Down it sometimes continues by itself all the way UP ...scary.

Skip Pop sound: recently i noticed when i skip songs in Pandora or any streaming media, I hear Pop sound from the speakers. It doesnt start the new song smoothly.
it starts with pop sound. in High volume that can sound really bad.

except all the above, yeah it's a great unit with all the features and real good quality. But for $1600 retail (when i bought it), i would expect something more reined and polished.

I"ve never used Pandora on the 7005 so can't speak to that, but the volumes never have run all the way up on me. Been using it for just short of 3 years now.
post #9513 of 9615
The Volume doesnt run up/down on me. never happen.
i'm talking about the individual channel adjust menu. Over there it happened few times.
I dont use any thing special as for IR, using the regular remote. I didnt get the impression the remote got stuck. it's seems like a bug.

Pandora yeah...like i said, i saw the exact same behavior on Denon 3311. So much be something in the firmware OR some issue with Pandora itself.
post #9514 of 9615

Try doing the level adjust up/down using the rocker panel underneath the front panel flip-down door instead of using the remote control. If there's no locking up problem then the problem most likely stems from something related to remote control communication, not the software which nobody else in the thread has reported having problems with (in that regard).

 

People with certain types of TV displays [plasma being the most common, but LCD too], sunlight, and certain kinds of room lights/aquarium lights have intermittent issues with IR commands because these devices flood the room with invisible IR "noise". Remotes will often seem to work but have issues such as lock up and/or being "weak". The problems often afflict only some devices and for only some commands.

 

There are aftermarket "IR noise filter patches" which can be applied to the front panel IR eye. My limited experience with them is they are sketchy, not bullet proof, but I don't really know of any other solution short of turning off the IR noise generator or building a jerry-rigged "lens shade" for the IR eye.

 

I guess blocking the front panel eye with thick black tape and plugging in a "plasma proof" IR eye to the back panel IR flasher command port might be a work around too.

 

Here's a random example of a product made that is described as "plasma proof". I have not used  it so don't consider this an endorsement. It is just a random example of such products:

 

http://www.amx.com/products/IRX-PP38.asp


Edited by m. zillch - 10/20/13 at 11:48pm
post #9515 of 9615
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Originally Posted by danny_isr View Post

The Volume doesnt run up/down on me. never happen.
i'm talking about the individual channel adjust menu. Over there it happened few times.

My previous reply was with respect to all volume/level settings.
post #9516 of 9615
I am having an issue with my front left channel. Any input, suggestions, etc. greatly appreciated.

The volume is very, very faint from that channel only. I have eliminated it being any other issue...power amp channel, bad cable, speaker, etc. It is very low from any source, and even when I use the internal 'white noise' to adjust the individual channel levels.

Leads me to think it's some issue with the internal processing or something vs. a bad physical connection somewhere. I've had an authorized dealer look at it, and they 'couldn't find an issue'. I'm not sure how 'deep' they get into a problem, but it's a vinyl, two-channel sort of place, so if he was just testing connections, I guess that would make sense.

I've reset the processor a few times, and checked for any firmware updates (it was up to date). Anyone have any other ideas, had a similar issue?? Unit is a refurb, and came out of the box with a 'switching to standby' issue, so so far I'm pretty frustrated. Unit still under one year warranty.

Thanks for any help!

Dustin
post #9517 of 9615

Is the store you are having it diagnosed as "NPF" [no problem found] also the same one you bought it from?

 

I'll have further questions once we get this established.

post #9518 of 9615
Try running Audyssey room correction again and see what it sets that speaker at. I had that same symptom the other day on my front wide right and I found the tweeter connection had come off.
post #9519 of 9615
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

Is the store you are having it diagnosed as "NPF" [no problem found] also the same one you bought it from?

I'll have further questions once we get this established.

No, I bought at accessories4less.com, and my authorized service center in KC is Vinyl Renaissance.

Thanks for taking a look at this.

Dustin
post #9520 of 9615
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Originally Posted by chatanika View Post

Try running Audyssey room correction again and see what it sets that speaker at. I had that same symptom the other day on my front wide right and I found the tweeter connection had come off.

I can see what happens, but Audyssey had it set at -9.5db, and the right at -9.0db when the issue first showed up. Even though both channels showed those respective values in 'manual setup--->channel level', the front left was outputting at an extremely low level. It came back from the shop with all levels reset to 0.0db, with same symptom.

I also ran the speaker wire to the center channel speaker with the same result, so I know it's not a speaker or speaker connection issue. And I wish it was...I have one extra speaker model of the ones I use for LCR.

Dustin
post #9521 of 9615

^You also swapped channels on the outboard power amp to verify it isn't that channel of the amp?

 

Repair centers which are also retailers are often jerks about fixing stuff they didn't sell you. It is childish, immoral, and illegal, but it happens. It is their way of getting back at you for buying elsewhere.

 

If you can't send the unit to Marantz directly, I'd look for another repair center.

 

Testing to see if the front Left channel is dead from the internal tuner also, verifies it isn't a problem with the AV7005's input section. Try that.

 

 

The repair ticket must be worded with this percise, specific level of detail [for example]:

 

"Using the DVD input,

with analog RCA connections,

in stereo mode,

Audyssey and all other effects off,

Pure Direct off,

the front left channel output is very, very faint."

 

If a diagnostic tester dude isn't replicating exactly the way you use it, it could be that's why they are reporting "NPF".

 

Ideally, lug your source machine, interconnect wire,  power amp, speaker wire, and one small speaker to the shop to demonstrate it actually not working, in person. Call ahead and explain you will be glad to do all the connections yourself and all you are asking for is to use an AC outlet they have and have them listen to it once you've set it up.

 

Testing to see if the left headphone jack out is faint also may help prevent you from having to lug anything beyond a pair of headphones to demonstrate the problem.

 

 

 

Good luck.


Edited by m. zillch - 10/27/13 at 10:11am
post #9522 of 9615

I made several edits on my last post so please re-read it now. Thanks.

post #9523 of 9615
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

I made several edits on my last post so please re-read it now. Thanks.

Yes, I ran cable through power amp right channel front, and then it was faint from right front speaker. I've tested all sources...for me is just blu-ray, CD, and DirecTV tuner. And again, the channel level outputs extremely low she using it's internal 'white noise' when setting channel levels. I tried internet radio, and same result. When you say 'internal tuner' when exactly is that utilized? Sorry, a little green with prepro stuff. I never use satellite or HD stations, and have no antennas or boxes setup for that stuff.

They seemed nice enough at the service center, so maybe I'll be more concise with my issue, and hit them up again. Ideally, I wish marantz would just swap out another refurb to me.

Dustin
post #9524 of 9615

Internal tuner is the radio built in, as in "FM". You need at least some sort of wire plugged into the back acting as an antenna, which new ones come with, even just a 31 inch long, or so, piece of scrap wire , any thickness, would do for the test, for it to receive radio stations.

post #9525 of 9615
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

Internal tuner is the radio built in, as in "FM". You need at least some sort of wire plugged into the back acting as an antenna, which new ones come with, even just a 31 inch long, or so, piece of scrap wire , any thickness, would do for the test, for it to receive radio stations.

Ok, I missed the FM wire in the diagram and saw only the antenna. Anyway, found it and plugged in...same low level. Very frustrating. Reset processor twice more with no luck. Maybe I should have gone with the Emotiva.

Dustin
post #9526 of 9615
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

I made several edits on my last post so please re-read it now. Thanks.

Welp, I went and turned in on to watch my Sunday evening show, thinking I'd just level out channels what I could and live with it (HT almost out one channel still beats 42" with very poor speakers), and now all of a sudden it's working. Hopefully it won't show up again. Happy, but my warranty runs out in April. Stink to pop up just after that. Just see how it goes for now, I guess. Thanks for input..if anything I used Internet radio and HT radio for first time...just not big on sitting in basement listening to radio, but features are pretty cool and could come in handy when doing any work down there.

Dustin
post #9527 of 9615
Hey folks,

I've got a question with the AV7005 in regards to Audyssey. I noticed that after I ran Audyssey I saw EQ curves for all of my speakers except the sub. Does Audyssey do anything to EQ the sub? The 7005 also doesn't have any EQ points below 63hz so there doesn't seem to be any way to EQ the sub manually.
post #9528 of 9615
There is no graph for the sub either displayed or that can be manually adjusted; however, it does get EQ'd by Audyssey (actually at a much higher resolution than is used for the speakers). Also note the speaker graphs are a very crude representation of what Audyssey has done.
post #9529 of 9615

Audyssey XT is technically a measuring system that passes its findings to the Marantz unit and then it's up to Marantz, as to what to do with it. Audyssey brags their XT process has 128x the amount of filter points for the sub, compared to some unspecified base unit [yes, that's just as meaningless as saying "I have 128X the amount of money in bank A compared to bank B. You know almost zip about how much money I have, in total, OR in either bank].

 

I have never seen a technical review which objectively measured exactly what the AV7005 does with the sub EQ. You might want to examine the dedicated Audyssey thread where some people have measured their rooms with third party spectrum analyzers to see what is happening, but I'm not sure if any of them have the AV7005. I wouldn't be surprised if virtually all Denon and Marantz Audyssey XT devices treat the sub channel the same way though, but you never know for sure unless it gets tested.


Edited by m. zillch - 10/30/13 at 3:55pm
post #9530 of 9615
I have a projector and plasma connected to my 7005. Plasma w/built-in is for day-to-day viewing and projector w/ surround system is for movies. The 7005 has an IR command that allows switching of the video output, but switching of the audio output requires accessing the menus. I used to do this audio switching with an extremely complicated (20+ commands) Logitech Harmony Activity, but it failed a lot, so the Deremote app has been a godsend because it allows switching between the two audio outputs directly.

Has anyone discovered an IR command that allows switches the audio output or is Deremote still the best option? Ideally, I'd like to be able to do this with a remote.
post #9531 of 9615

I don't have a detailed understanding of your room layout, but if you'd consider mounting the plasma on the same wall as the projection screen, then there's no reason to have two alternate speaker layouts, one should suffice for both screens, hence no need for any switching.

post #9532 of 9615
Unfortunately that's not an option in my layout. It's a serves as living room, so the screen has to retract because it sits in front of a bay window. Plasma is on another wall.
post #9533 of 9615

Since you also can't use Audyssey for the alternate audio, maybe try running the stereo RCA tape record out ("CDR" they might call it") to the plasma TV system. For these to work all the incoming sources need RCAs for this purpose since the AV7005 doesn't transfer incoming digital audio sources to the analog outs; all it does is pass the analog signals for the given source to the analog "tape/zone" outs.

 

Strike that "CDR" comment . Your plasma TV should be thought of as a "zone" [Most people who speak English call zones "rooms"].

post #9534 of 9615
Well finally found the source of that buzzing.

First I thought it was a ground loop. (There actually was some noise due to that.)

Then I thought it might be due to the bridged amp I started using adding some hm.

Well, officially and scientifically, it's some form of interference caused when I charge my Mac Air. Go figure. completely different circuit and everything.

Dead on for sure that's the issue. Whenever the battery's full or I disconnect the charger from the Mac.... it goes away.

How about that... never heard of anythign like it.
Edited by LIRob - 11/17/13 at 4:27pm
post #9535 of 9615
After a year and seven months of owning my SR7005, I recently became interested how similar in sound my AVR is to the AV7005. So I intend to read the entire thread; currently 35 pages into the content. It has been an interesting read so far to observe how this thread has developed since this initial posting that started it all.
post #9536 of 9615
I just picked up a used AV7005 after having used a Sunfire Theater Grand II for years past it's obsolescence. The main reason I did so was for HDMI video switching capabilities, but I quickly found that I cannot get a basic audio / video combo to work that is essential to me... Can anyone tell me how to output an HDMI video source to my TV while listening to an HD radio station? I have set the "Video" setting under "Input Setup" for the tuner to SAT--which is the source I want to watch, but there is no video output to the TV...?
post #9537 of 9615

Turn on your HD radio station of choice, your SAT tuner, and of course your TV to the dedicated HDMI input used for the AV7005. Then press and select the following:

 

Menu>

Input setup>

Video>

toggle change Video Select to "SAT" instead of "source" with the left/right arrows.

Done.

 

Many settings on the AV7005 are local, not global, so if you attempted this previously but weren't actually on HD radio then you changed it for that other input you happened to be on, but not all of the others.


Edited by m. zillch - 11/21/13 at 5:11pm
post #9538 of 9615
I recently aquired a used AV7005. I'm in the process of setting it up and have figured out that the included stock remote control has serious issues. The volume up/down toggle works intermittently on occasion. Sometimes racing up or down or moving one step, but usually not responding at all. The menu button does not work at all, nor do several other keys. The original owner indicated that he hardly used the remote before he switched to a learning remote. Found that kind of hard to believe considering the wear on the top of the remote. I've attempted to contact the Marantz parts department to inquire about purchasing a replacement remote, however they are curiously closed today. I noticed a few posts back, that somebody recently got a price from Marantz on the remote, but didn't list it. Anybody happen to know what a replacement Marantz remote costs?

I have an old MX-500 Universal Remote Control, but it seems to be incapable of learning anything anymore as I tried to teach it some of the commands from a couple of working remotes I have for a plasma tv as well as a fairly new bluRay DVD player. But that was unfortunately useless.

I downloaded the free Marantz app to my iphone, and although it sort of worked initially, at least as a music server remote. Now it won't even find the processor. It makes an annoying chiming sound, but that's about it.

So I'm wondering a few things. First, is this stock Marantz remote known to be a dud? Or, do most of you still use it regularly? If you use something else, what do you guys use that works well as a replacement? I really don't want to spend $200+ on another learning remote that may or may not do everything the stock remote does. But for convenience sake, I may have to turn to something like that. I am also contemplating the iRule app, but I kind of prefer the immediacy of buttons,...when they work.

Thanks,
Craigo
post #9539 of 9615
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Originally Posted by Craigo87 View Post

what do you guys use that works well as a replacement? I really don't want to spend $200+ on another learning remote that may or may not do everything the stock remote does. But for convenience sake, I may have to turn to something like that. I am also contemplating the iRule app, but I kind of prefer the immediacy of buttons,...when they work.
I use one of two Logitech Harmony remotes that work reasonably well but don't have every button or function that the stock Marantz remote does. I only use the Marantz remote for when I need a function that is easily found there that's not programmed into the Logitech remotes. So my Marantz remote is still pristine and works fine though it's clearly not used much.

Third party remotes are quite a matter of taste, complexity, motivation to set them up right, and passion for the tech. Not one of them is perfect so you have to find one that meets most of your personal requirements which can take some time to distill and research. If you used an MX-500 (I have too) then you should be comfortable with just about anything else out there since their line of products can be pretty technical to deal with in my opinion. I also think a lot of them are pretty expensive which might exclude one that would work best. $300 or $400 for a remote? Ugh.

I'd recommend counting up the components in your system and looking for the lowest cost Logitech Harmony that will handle that many components and seeing if it fits the bill.

Let us know what you decide.
post #9540 of 9615
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Originally Posted by erhurd View Post

After a year and seven months of owning my SR7005, I recently became interested how similar in sound my AVR is to the AV7005. So I intend to read the entire thread; currently 35 pages into the content. It has been an interesting read so far to observe how this thread has developed since this initial posting that started it all.
Good luck! There's a heck of a lot of tripe and infighting here that really should be edited out so as to make the thread more enjoyable. I would much rather have preferred the site to have an AV7005 forum with individual topics underneath rather than it ALL under one single thread so I could target my reading of the info I wanted instead of having to slog through thousands of posts of garbage. I read through it all over a period of weeks and was not happy at the end. Maybe you'll have better luck!

I still think the AV7005 is a fine machine though I'm not a fan of the Audyssey calibration. My opinion has been there was little to no difference between my previous Sherwood-Newcastle AVP9080 and the Marantz AV7005 so that means either my ears can't tell the difference or both units are equally good. If only my AVP9080 was upgradeable and had HDMI, I wouldn't have needed to buy a new unit. Since I did though and the sound from the AV7005 is every bit as good, clearly I made the right purchase.
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