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post #1051 of 2742
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Be prepared to be delighted.

I owe you for pushing me over the edge

I also have to thank you for all the info, I got the last one they had in stock.
post #1052 of 2742
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Originally Posted by mjaudio View Post

I owe you for pushing me over the edge

I also have to thank you for all the info, I got the last one they had in stock.

Just trying to keep the money flowing through the economy.
post #1053 of 2742
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Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

To my knowledge 4K is needed for the upcoming new shutterless (no eye glasses) 3D Display modes.

4k upscaling is only going to benefit non 3D content. The purpose of a 4k display is to have native 1080p for each L and R field on the screen simultaneously. As others have said, 4k is nothing but marketing hype. The current Onkyo HDMI 1.4 receivers are capable of sending the 3D signal to any 4k display that supports HDMI 1.4. It is up to the display how to process the signal. HDMI is just the delivery path. And again the 4k upscaling is going to be pretty useless especially if you have a smaller display and sit an average distance from it.
post #1054 of 2742
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Originally Posted by GeorgeHolland View Post

I had no response from the remote for the first time tonight but I could control the 5508 from the front panel. I took the batteries out of the remote and after putting them back in the remote functioned again.

My remote is not responding again and removing the batteries is not helping this time. The front panel still works.
post #1055 of 2742
Does your remote work for other items youmight have programmed it for ...tv cablebox.. DVD ?
post #1056 of 2742
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Originally Posted by GeorgeHolland View Post


My remote is not responding again and removing the batteries is not helping this time. The front panel still works.

Is your TV switched on before you start the 5508? If yes, switch the TV off and then see if the problem persists. The backlight control on most new TVs interfere with remote controls.

Hope this helps.
post #1057 of 2742
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Originally Posted by audio1246 View Post

Is your TV switched on before you start the 5508? If yes, switch the TV off and then see if the problem persists. The backlight control on most new TVs interfere with remote controls.

Really??? What idiots designed that??

Jeff
post #1058 of 2742
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Really??? What idiots designed that??

Jeff

Sounds worse than the problems that Plasma screens used to cause. I had a basic IR dimmer for my lights about 7 years ago. It was one that only had a single button on the remote. A quick touch for on/off and holding it down made it cycle dim to bright to dim etc. When my Pioneer Plasma (504) was on, if I pressed the button to either switch the lights on or off, it would go into the cycle as if I had my finger constantly on the button.
post #1059 of 2742
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Originally Posted by GeorgeHolland View Post

My remote is not responding again and removing the batteries is not helping this time. The front panel still works.

Keep an eye on that. Both my 80.2's started off with the remote not responding. They then went into switching and locking on inputs, totally freezing, etc...

Note: Taking the batteries out and even trying a different universal remote never helped with mine. Only unplugging the unit then doing a reset.
post #1060 of 2742
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Originally Posted by mjf_uk View Post

Sounds worse than the problems that Plasma screens used to cause. I had a basic IR dimmer for my lights about 7 years ago. It was one that only had a single button on the remote. A quick touch for on/off and holding it down made it cycle dim to bright to dim etc. When my Pioneer Plasma (504) was on, if I pressed the button to either switch the lights on or off, it would go into the cycle as if I had my finger constantly on the button.

Well, not long ago one brilliant team of rocket scientists were using metric distances and another brilliant team were using Imperial units of measuring distances ... working on the same Mars probe project .... which sent it crashing into the planet when the landing routine failed to deploy.

Jeff
post #1061 of 2742
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Originally Posted by jmschnur View Post
Does your remote work for other items youmight have programmed it for ...tv cablebox.. DVD ?
I haven't programmed any other devices but my Comcast Motorola DCX3400 must be set up as default and the remote still works with it.
post #1062 of 2742
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Originally Posted by audio1246 View Post
Is your TV switched on before you start the 5508? If yes, switch the TV off and then see if the problem persists. The backlight control on most new TVs interfere with remote controls.

Hope this helps.
The order is not responsive regardless of sequence.

I have it connected to a JVC RS50 projector, both in the back of the room and in separate cabinets.
post #1063 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Guinness77 View Post
Keep an eye on that. Both my 80.2's started off with the remote not responding. They then went into switching and locking on inputs, totally freezing, etc...

Note: Taking the batteries out and even trying a different universal remote never helped with mine. Only unplugging the unit then doing a reset.
I noticed your issues in the other thread. Any solution?
post #1064 of 2742
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Originally Posted by audio1246 View Post

Is your TV switched on before you start the 5508? If yes, switch the TV off and then see if the problem persists. The backlight control on most new TVs interfere with remote controls.

Hope this helps.

Never heard that

Can you have( or can you post some links) to where this has happened?

And when you say backlight control
Do you mean one ones in the full LED backlit televisions...such as Samsung 8500, LG8500,9500, Sony XBR8,XBR10,XBR909( etc)?...as opposed to the Edgelit LED's...that in some cases have limited "micro-dimming"

The reason I ask is...I have had experience with many of those and have never seen an interference issue

Warren
post #1065 of 2742
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Well, not long ago one brilliant team of rocket scientists were using metric distances and another brilliant team were using Imperial units of measuring distances ... working on the same Mars probe project .... which sent it crashing into the planet when the landing routine failed to deploy.

Jeff

another good reason for using bluetooth technology...as is being implemented by many manufacturers
IR has had issues with even common microwave ovens in households


Warren
post #1066 of 2742
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post


Never heard that

Can you have( or can you post some links) to where this has happened?

And when you say backlight control
Do you mean one ones in the full LED backlit televisions...such as Samsung 8500, LG8500,9500, Sony XBR8,XBR10,XBR909( etc)?...as opposed to the Edgelit LED's...that in some cases have limited "micro-dimming"

The reason I ask is...I have had experience with many of those and have never seen an interference issue

Warren

I have the samsung ln46b750. It's an LCD tv and sometimes I get the interference with the 5508. This is a common problem when using att dvr (uverse). Apparently the same issue is impacting the 5508. I am using a blue painters tape to cover the att dvr's face plate, where the ir receiver is located and have not seen any remote control response issues after the fix on the att dvr.
post #1067 of 2742
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Originally Posted by GeorgeHolland View Post

I noticed your issues in the other thread. Any solution?

Nothing yet, still waiting to hear back from my dealer.
post #1068 of 2742
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Originally Posted by audio1246 View Post

I have the samsung ln46b750. It's an LCD tv and sometimes I get the interference with the 5508. This is a common problem when using att dvr (uverse). Apparently the same issue is impacting the 5508. I am using a blue painters tape to cover the att dvr's face plate, where the ir receiver is located and have not seen any remote control response issues after the fix on the att dvr.

I have a mix of Plasma and LED...all Samsung

Never had any kind of interference...but I have Direct TV

I have seen some pretty nasty things said about U-verse( and Tivo) in these forums
But all I have seen has to do with HDMI handshake issues and various firmware upgrades...nothing to do with mixed IR signals
I have a 3D TV that also uses IR to activate the glasses...still no issues

Warren
post #1069 of 2742
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Originally Posted by mjf_uk View Post

Having just seen the spec of the TX-NR1009, it includes DTS Neo:X - apparantly the first Receiver to have it. So even though the 1009 only has 9 internal Amps, it must be 11.1 capable (obviously using 2 external Amps) for it to support DTS Neo:X.

So you may be looking at upgrading after all, as the 3009/5009/5509 will surely all be 11.2 capable if the 1009 is.

I'm glad Onkyo realised that they would be a missing out on this opportunity to improve over the 08 series, as I was quite surprised when I originally heard that they weren't.

I can now see the 5509 being in my system for many years.

Hi,

I hope you are correct regarding the upcoming "5509" preamplifier, but I believe your interpretation is incorrect regarding the upcoming TX-NR1009 receiver.

Here is an excerpt from the Onkyo Asia website:

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DTS Neo:X™ for Expanded Dimensions to Surround Sound

Selected Onkyo receivers feature DTS Neo:X, a new technology that offers a multitude of ways to set up the speakers in a 9.1-channel home theater system. A basic 5.1-channel set-up can be complemented by one of three different arrangements: (1) You can add surround back and front-height speakers to bring out ambient, non-directional sounds; (2) You can add surround back and front-wide speakers to provide a more expansive soundstage; or (3) You can add front-height and front-width speakers to create an immersive space without needing to install rear speakers.

Here's is the product brochure for the TX-NR1009.

If you look at the back of the receiver you will see that there aren't enough preout connections to have 11.2 channels. Only 9.2 channels. In other words, you can't add an external amplifier to power the 10th and 11th channels because there is nothing to connect them to.

Larry
post #1070 of 2742
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Originally Posted by turnne1 View Post


I have a mix of Plasma and LED...all Samsung

Never had any kind of interference...but I have Direct TV

I have seen some pretty nasty things said about U-verse( and Tivo) in these forums
But all I have seen has to do with HDMI handshake issues and various firmware upgrades...nothing to do with mixed IR signals
I have a 3D TV that also uses IR to activate the glasses...still no issues

Warren

Good for you. Samsung might have fixed IR interference issues in their latest offerings. Unfortunately my TV is out of firmware updates.
post #1071 of 2742
I know Onkyo AVRs run quite hot. Since it doesn't have the amp section does the 5508 run much cooler?
post #1072 of 2742
Hi Larry,

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Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

...
I hope you are correct regarding the upcoming "5509" preamplifier, but I believe your interpretation is incorrect regarding the upcoming TX-NR1009 receiver.

...

Larry

From some "unofficial" sources here in Europe, it seems that the next:

- 3009 will be a 9 channels receiver, bur with a 11.2 processing capacity
- 5009 will be a 11 channels receiver
- 5509 wil be a 11 channels processor.

Now concerning this last 5509 product, it is still unclear if it is going to be 'Installer Ready", meaning if it will be compatible with the use of the Audyssyey Pro kit...

Now if this capacity was omitted on the 5509, that would simply be a shame on part of Onkyo...

Hugo
post #1073 of 2742
Hi Larry,

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Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

...
I hope you are correct regarding the upcoming "5509" preamplifier, but I believe your interpretation is incorrect regarding the upcoming TX-NR1009 receiver.

...

Larry

From some "unofficial" sources here in Europe, it appears that the next:

- 3009 will be a 9 channels receiver, bur with a 11.2 processing capacity,
- 5009 will be a 11 channels receiver,
- 5509 wil be a 11 channels processor.

Now concerning this last 5509 product, it is still unclear if it is going to be 'Installer Ready", meaning if it will be compatible with the use of the Audyssyey Pro kit, the way a 5508 is.

Now if this capacity was omitted on the 5509, that would simply be a shame on part of Onkyo...

Hugo
post #1074 of 2742
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Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

I hope you are correct regarding the upcoming "5509" preamplifier, but I believe your interpretation is incorrect regarding the upcoming TX-NR1009 receiver.

Sorry about that, but after reading all about DTS Neo:X on the DTS site, I guess I did the wrong thing by assuming it would be 11.2 capable (using 2 external Amps) after seeing Onkyo's claim about it being the first AVR to support DTS Neo:X. Clearly, now that I have seen the brochure, it is only 9.2.

DTS Neo:X was designed for 11.1, so Onkyo have made a huge mistake here, again.
post #1075 of 2742
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Originally Posted by jchong View Post

I know Onkyo AVRs run quite hot. Since it doesn't have the amp section does the 5508 run much cooler?

Still rather warm but not as hot for example as an 806.
post #1076 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Hugo S View Post


Now concerning this last 5509 product, it is still unclear if it is going to be 'Installer Ready", meaning if it will be compatible with the use of the Audyssyey Pro kit...

Now if this capacity was omitted on the 5509, that would simply be a shame on part of Onkyo...

Hugo

It was a pleasant surprise that Pro-ready returned to the 5508 after being on the 885 and 886, but dropped for the 5507. The working theory/conventional wisdom is that it is/was Onkyo positioning/differentiating the Integra line as the custom installer product line.

Jeff
post #1077 of 2742
Hi, just received my 5508 and have a quick question, I set it up to allow HDMI pass-through while in standby. it only allows pass-trough to the device that was last selected before switching it to standby. I was hoping to allow any HDMI connected device to be passed-through regardless of being the last one selected, is this possible?
post #1078 of 2742
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Originally Posted by sherifk View Post

Hi, just received my 5508 and have a quick question, I set it up to allow HDMI pass-through while in standby. it only allows pass-trough to the device that was last selected before switching it to standby. I was hoping to allow any HDMI connected device to be passed-through regardless of being the last one selected, is this possible?

How would it know which input to pass through? Since it's off, it can't switch. So, no.

Jeff
post #1079 of 2742
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Originally Posted by audio1246 View Post

Good for you. Samsung might have fixed IR interference issues in their latest offerings. Unfortunately my TV is out of firmware updates.

well you said interference was created with "MOST NEW TV's"

I actually have a Samsung 40A750...a generation older than yours
No issues

I also have some newer B and C series Samsungs( plasma and LED)
No issues

Warren
post #1080 of 2742
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

How would it know which input to pass through? Since it's off, it can't switch. So, no.

Jeff

Not that it makes a lot of difference since he has a 5508

I think some of the other manufacturers might work a little differently
I got a Yamaha A3000 receiver few weeks ago that I using in the bedroom

I think will do pass through with any HDMI CEC "compatible" device without that device having been the last selected in put

I say "think" because I have not used the receiver enough to be completely familiar with it
Its a moot point to me..as I don't have any need for this feature

In fact the one unit I might want this to operate with automatic input switching..is the Direct TV box...which unfortunately does not have CEC control

Warren
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