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post #241 of 2742
I was under the impression that the 5508 can specify and adjust HQV Reon upconversion for each video input. However, after having read the manual from cover to cover, how to do so still eludes me (indeed, there is no mention of HQV Reon at all, although it is included in the festival of logos on the front panel). FWIW, my blu-ray and DVD are HDMI inputs, and my VCR(!) input is S-VHS. I have a single HDMI output to the TV.
post #242 of 2742
Actually it can. Set the input video to source and in the source setup section you can adjust video for the input you are tuned to. The settings are saved for each input
post #243 of 2742
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Originally Posted by hawkster27 View Post

I was under the impression that the 5508 can specify and adjust HQV Reon upconversion for each video input. However, after having read the manual from cover to cover, how to do so still eludes me (indeed, there is no mention of HQV Reon at all, although it is included in the festival of logos on the front panel). FWIW, my blu-ray and DVD are HDMI inputs, and my VCR(!) input is S-VHS. I have a single HDMI output to the TV.

The 5508 does have the ability to make seperate video settings per input. Looking at the 5508 manual the picture settings are in section 4. Source Setup section on page 53. Then go to part 5. Picture Adjust on page 56 to access the many picture settings you can use per input. I have the 886 and having the ability to make different settings per input is a great feature. Although the 5508 has many more settings than the 886. I have a feeling the 5508 is in my future especially if shoponkyo has some "refurbished" units in stock some day.

I see Joel beat me to it.

Bill
post #244 of 2742
Really excited about this pre-amplifier, but hard to procure one in Canada. Does anyone know where I can get a good deal on one? Willing to have it shipped from U.S. Please share in this thread or by PM.
Thanks,
Peer
post #245 of 2742
Anybody want to sell their rack mount kit from a SC-5508P?
It's boxed up ready to ship in the factory packing.
Part Number IRK-180-4

Update: Got a kit already from a forum member. Thanks.
post #246 of 2742
What are the model number line ups?

80.2 = 5508
80.1 = 5507
9.9 = ?
9.8 = ?

The Onkyo Pro [/P] is the same as Onkyo but shipped with the rack ear kit, correct?


Mike
post #247 of 2742
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Originally Posted by mmiles View Post

what are the model number line ups?

80.2 = 5508
80.1 = 5507
9.9 = ?
9.8 = ?

The onkyo pro [/p] is the same as onkyo but shipped with the rack ear kit, correct?


Mike

9.9 = 886
9.8 = 885


The 885 and 886 models were sold under the Onkyo Pro badge (on the face). I haven't followed the 5507 and 5508 closely ... they show on the Onkyo Pro website, but simply say "Onkyo" on the face. I believe they all have/had the rack kit included.

Jeff
post #248 of 2742
The Onkyo Pro website says the 5508P is coming soon. Interesting...

Anyone ever do a 5507 [80.1] to 5508 [80.2] comparsiom in regards to the sonics and video processing?

On paper they appear to be the same not knowing if there is any firmware changes to the DSPs.

I know the 5508/80.2 have HDMI 1.4a - 3D Ready and Audyessy XT32.

That said I take it the 5508 has the XT32 Pro Installer option now with the latest firmware release? What is the difference in XT and XT32? Mic locations for the calibration?
post #249 of 2742
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

9.9 = 886
9.8 = 885


The 885 and 886 models were sold under the Onkyo Pro badge (on the face). I haven't followed the 5507 and 5508 closely ... they show on the Onkyo Pro website, but simply say "Onkyo" on the face. I believe they all have/had the rack kit included.

Jeff

I am not sure about the rack ears being included in the 5508 versus the 5508p, maybe someone who has purchased the 5508, none "p" version can confirm.

But as an ONKYO and ONKYO Pro dealer, I do know that the MSRPs are different.

The 5508 was announced at $2149 and the 5508p is $2249 msrp. As yet, no one has been able to say what the extra $100 is for.
post #250 of 2742
The extra Ben Frank is for the rack ears. The come in a separate box.
post #251 of 2742
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Originally Posted by bioforce View Post

I am not sure about the rack ears being included in the 5508 versus the 5508p, maybe someone who has purchased the 5508, none "p" version can confirm.

But as an ONKYO and ONKYO Pro dealer, I do know that the MSRPs are different.

The 5508 was announced at $2149 and the 5508p is $2249 msrp. As yet, no one has been able to say what the extra $100 is for.

that is weird. Wonder whats going on. Maybe the P is to represent official Pro Audyessey calibration?
post #252 of 2742
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Originally Posted by orangeblast View Post

that is weird. Wonder whats going on. Maybe the P is to represent official Pro Audyessey calibration?

The "p" designation means "Onkyo PRO" model and is on all the Onkyo PRO model numbers.
post #253 of 2742
My 885P came in a box labled just "885." That box and a smaller box containing the rack-mount kit were both packed inside a slightly larger box labled "885P."
post #254 of 2742
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Originally Posted by bioforce View Post

The "p" designation means "Onkyo PRO" model and is on all the Onkyo PRO model numbers.

It is hard to believe that there are currently 2 models of the 5508 availble. Is the no "P" model an earlier 2010 version that does not have the Pro calibration while the latest version with the P does have the Pro Calibration feature like the Integra 80.2?
post #255 of 2742
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Originally Posted by JackBarry View Post

It is hard to believe that there are currently 2 models of the 5508 availble. Is the no "P" model an earlier 2010 version that does not have the Pro calibration while the latest version with the P does have the Pro Calibration feature like the Integra 80.2?

I doubt it. Both my 885 and 5508 are P models, but that designation only appears on the shipping box, not on the units or instruction manuals.
post #256 of 2742
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Originally Posted by mmiles View Post
What is the difference in XT and XT32?
MultEQ XT32: The newest and most accurate room correction solution with more than ten thousand individual control points allowing finer details of the room’s problems to be captured and corrected. The ultra high resolution filters are applied to all channels including the subwoofers, with the most obvious benefit being heard in the low frequency range where correction is needed the most. Filter resolution is 32 times greater than MultEQ XT.

Audyssey Sub EQ HT is currently in every AVR that uses MultEQ XT32. udyssey Sub EQ HT allows consumers to properly integrate two subwoofers in their home theater systems. Sub EQ HT makes the integration seamless by first compensating for any level and delay differences between the two subwoofers and then applying Audyssey’s room correction MultEQ technology to both subwoofers together. The result is great sound with fantastic bass.
post #257 of 2742
In short XT32 has better filtering and sampling as well as eq for dual subs.

XT does not accomodate dual subs but does do LF eq and the filtering is not as refined vs. XT32.

it would be interesting to listen [A/B or on/off] to XT and XT32 modes in the same system if that is even possible.
post #258 of 2742
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Originally Posted by hulkss View Post

MultEQ XT32: The newest and most accurate room correction solution with more than ten thousand individual control points allowing finer details of the room's problems to be captured and corrected. The ultra high resolution filters are applied to all channels including the subwoofers, with the most obvious benefit being heard in the low frequency range where correction is needed the most. Filter resolution is 32 times greater than MultEQ XT.

Audyssey Sub EQ HT is currently in every AVR that uses MultEQ XT32. udyssey Sub EQ HT allows consumers to properly integrate two subwoofers in their home theater systems. Sub EQ HT makes the integration seamless by first compensating for any level and delay differences between the two subwoofers and then applying Audyssey's room correction MultEQ technology to both subwoofers together. The result is great sound with fantastic bass.

Don't some avr's/processors have only XT but also have sub eq ht? I thought some of last year's Integras and Onkyos were examples of this.
post #259 of 2742
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Originally Posted by cmryan821 View Post

Don't some avr's/processors have only XT but also have sub eq ht? I thought some of last year's Integras and Onkyos were examples of this.

Yes.

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Originally Posted by audyssey View Post

Hi Al,
The Onkyo xx07 series all have the Audyssey Sub EQ HT feature. That means that all you have to do is connect each of your subs to the outputs of the AVR and run MultEQ. It will take care of level matching the two subs to each other and adjusting their delays prior to applying the MultEQ filters to them. It's all automatic so there are no extra steps needed.

Larry
post #260 of 2742
The differences in the 5508 models are only with regards to the rack ears coming with it or not, and the marketing agreements. The 5508 is available in the consumer Onkyo line, but doesn't come with the rack ears. Onkyo's corporate policy regarding direct dealers is rather old school requiring a commercial zoned B&M retail location. Those consumer Onkyo direct dealers with the 5508 must demo it and the new separate 9ch amp.

The 5508P is also available through Onkyo Pro direct dealers with traditional B&M locations. The 5508 is also available through distribution for custom installers, designers, etc. The seperate amp is only available through the consumer channel.

The 5508 is Audyssey Pro ready, although you don't see it on the Audyssey site yet. Audyssey Installers can acquire a digital key for the 5508 in the Audyssey Installer section.

I steered clear of the 5507 in our designs because it was not Audyssey Pro accessible. I don't know all its capabilities. We continued to use the 886 until the 5508 arrived because I always use Audyssey Pro for final calibration. The obvious Audyssey XT32 and DSX changes have been mentioned. Otherwise the significant refinements are the DLNA capability to be used with a media server and/or your PC, and ipod/iphone support from the front USB port. As many source products have this capability and more now, this is only a minor convenience. If you use a PS3, DLNA BD player, or use Apple TV to sync your itunes music library, photos, etc, these features in the Onkyo will not be of much use.

Anybody think of anything I've missed?

I took a look at the Denon 4311ci, too. Although admirable and very similar in their AVC functions, I would give the edge to the 5508. That said, I can see the 4311ci going in some designs. I will be changing out my 886 to the 5508.

Holiday cheers
post #261 of 2742
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Originally Posted by LarryChanin View Post

Yes.



Larry

Thanks.
post #262 of 2742
I've been coming across some posts about the 5008s experiencing some HDMI lip syncing issues...the audio lags behind the picture.

Is the 5508 experiencing anything similar?

Also, why does it seem so hard trying to find one of these guys for purchase at it's counterpart's price? I've only found 2 places that are selling this unit but its all at List price. If there are any other places to look at good prices can someone PM me about it?
post #263 of 2742
Does this unit also pass the HDMI untouched or does it change the color space like the older Onkyo Pre Pros (885)?
post #264 of 2742
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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post
Does this unit also pass the HDMI untouched or does it change the color space like the older Onkyo Pre Pros (885)?
Untouched. 100%.
post #265 of 2742
Does the change in color space affect Blu-ray or just upconverted signals?
post #266 of 2742
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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

Does this unit also pass the HDMI untouched or does it change the color space like the older Onkyo Pre Pros (885)?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

Does the change in color space affect Blu-ray or just upconverted signals?

Hi,

My understanding is the original colorspace issue seen on Onkyo 885/Integra 9.8 prepros was as a result of applying the HD colorspace to upconverted SD content. This particular video scaling issue was resolved in the next series of prepros, Onkyo 886/Integra 9.9.

Larry
post #267 of 2742
I am not very well educated in this field buy I am wondering what advantage the SC5508 has over getting a TX-NR3008 or 5008. With the TX-NR3008 and 5008 I am getting the ability to amp extra speakers and do not end up paying extra for anything. I am hoping to use Rotel 1575 as an amp - so can possibly bi-amp fronts if I buy the TX-NR5008 or 3008 instead of the SC5508.
Am I missing something? Why would you buy the PR-SC5508 over the tx-nr3008 or 5008?
Speakers to be used are B&W 804S (Front L+R) with HTM-3S (center) and 805S for surrounds.
post #268 of 2742
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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

Does the change in color space affect Blu-ray or just upconverted signals?

No, it does not affect any HD source signals. Even 720p conversion to 1080p is fine. It's only when you upscale 480i/p content that the wrong colorspace is applied. Even then, the effect is pretty minor.
post #269 of 2742
How does the SC5508 rate as an analog preamp? I remember hearing earlier Onkyo/Integra models didn't have the greatest sounding analog preamp sections. Any improvement?
post #270 of 2742
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Originally Posted by someet View Post

Why would you buy the PR-SC5508 over the tx-nr3008 or 5008?

The main reason is that I use electronic crossovers so I need to put a loudspeaker controller in between the pre-amp and power amps.

Also, I feel there are compromises made to stuff everything into one box. Here is a photo of the PA-MC5500 9 channel amp and the PR-SC5508.
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