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post #2461 of 2742
Yes, enjoy, everyone who chooses to partake in the merriment of Christmas and the New Year. May the food be plentiful, the alcohol flow freely and the enjoyment be the best yet!!
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To those of you who celebrate Christmas, I would like to wish you a merry merry Christmas, hope you all will have a wonder full time with family and friends. We are all most ready to a little dance around the Christmas tree, AND, presents, perhaps a little blu ray or cd, hmmmm
Merry Christmas, and thanks for all the wonderful discussions/posts, I love being a part of it!
:-) :-), ho ho hooo

Thanks Jan, and best wishes to you and yours too.
post #2463 of 2742
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Originally Posted by nohjy View Post

Hi, I am considering buying a new pre-amp. Is the Onkyo still worth considering? if so, can someone please send me a private message with the contact information for an authorized dealer that will sell it at a good price?

Thanks!

I have the answers to both of your questions. Yes it is still a great unit to buy, the other answer should be obvious......
post #2464 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

I have the answers to both of your questions. Yes it is still a great unit to buy, the other answer should be obvious......

Ooh!! You're a naughty one!!
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merry xmas
post #2466 of 2742
^^^ Merry Christmas.
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Ooh!! You're a naughty one!!

I try not to be naughty, but I guess that is always a matter of prospective.
post #2467 of 2742
Anyone find the following odd? Try and visit http://www.onkyopro.com to be greeted with:

"Onkyo Pro is closed. Please visit Onkyo USA instead.
Click here if you are not automatically redirected within 15 seconds.

Thank you."

Between this and the lack of a 5509 US release my conspiracy theory is that the Onkyo Pro line is going away to leave basically Onkyo/Integra as the only two product lines.

I was about to grab a 5508 to test (wanted to vet the relay clicking myself), but was secretly hoping to get a 5509; looks like I'll be stuck with a 80.3

Thoughts?
post #2468 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Manchild View Post

Anyone find the following odd? Try and visit http://www.onkyopro.com to be greeted with:

"Onkyo Pro is closed. Please visit Onkyo USA instead.
Click here if you are not automatically redirected within 15 seconds.

Thank you."

Between this and the lack of a 5509 US release my conspiracy theory is that the Onkyo Pro line is going away to leave basically Onkyo/Integra as the only two product lines.

I was about to grab a 5508 to test (wanted to vet the relay clicking myself), but was secretly hoping to get a 5509; looks like I'll be stuck with a 80.3

Thoughts?

You can still get a 5508, it was not just a Onkyo pro model.

http://www.onkyousa.com/prod_class.c...Source=hdrmenu

But as for your "secret hope" of getting a 5509 here in the US, no, you were not going to get a 5509 in the US from Onkyo Pro either.
post #2469 of 2742
Anyone using this Onkyo with one of the new JVC 3-D projectors? The reason I ask is with the emitter running, the remote is very sluggish because of all the IR interference. I just wondered if anyone else is having the same issues and has found a fix.
post #2470 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Johnla View Post

You can still get a 5508, it was not just a Onkyo pro model.

http://www.onkyousa.com/prod_class.c...Source=hdrmenu

But as for your "secret hope" of getting a 5509 here in the US, no, you were not going to get a 5509 in the US from Onkyo Pro either.

I think the only dif between Onk 5508 and Onk Pro 5508 was the included mounting kit in the latter.

At one time they had Onkyo, Onkyo Pro, Integra and Integra Research. The latter flamed brightly and set new standards for high end performance at prices that smoked the nosebleed competition but ended after, basically, one model "year."

Maybe they ghosted Onkyo Pro now as there wasn't a whit of difference ... except for them thar ears ... from Onkyo.
and maybe restricting Onkyo units in the US is there way of pushing Integra and their dealer/installer network? I think that they might regret that though as online sales are growing very fast and brick and mortar businesses are folding.

Jeff
post #2471 of 2742
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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

Anyone using this Onkyo with one of the new JVC 3-D projectors? The reason I ask is with the emitter running, the remote is very sluggish because of all the IR interference. I just wondered if anyone else is having the same issues and has found a fix.

Greetings,

I am using the 5508 with a JVC RS50 and now the RS55. I don't use the stock remote but will try it when 3D is running and see if there is any problem.

Regards,
post #2472 of 2742
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Originally Posted by gurkey View Post

Those (older) pictures are from my former 876 setup (+ HD-DVD, which i still have). Another component (BD player) is sitting now on top of the HD-DVD.
The same setup (4x 120 mm fans, low rpm and ultra silent: 13 db x 4 = 19 db) will be used on top of my new 3009 and 5509 too. The construction allows other units to be placed on top without raising the temperature inside and is practically invisible because it is sandwiched in between.
Temperature shown is 30°C (appr. 86°F) with a max. of 31°C (appr. 88°F) even after several hours use.

Those fans suck out air following the natural flow of hot air (convection). The Reon chip has an additional heat sink mounted.
The setup can be completely removed / transfered without any effort because it is just laying on top of the unit.
The fans are powered by a 12VDC HD power supply at the back of the unit and are switched in sync with the unit.

Hi folks, I know it's a couple of days and posts since I asked, but I'll try again.
Well, I've tried different setups, but haven't managed to get it work. My problem is that I cannot switch on and off the fans in sync with my AVP. I've tried to use the trigger output to switch on/off an external relay, which turns on/off the power supply for the fans.but it seems as if the trigger output cannot do this.
Gurkey, how do you actually switch the fans in sync?
Kindly
Jan
post #2473 of 2742
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Originally Posted by runnernorth View Post

Hi folks, I know it's a couple of days and posts since I asked, but I'll try again.
Well, I've tried different setups, but haven't managed to get it work. My problem is that I cannot switch on and off the fans in sync with my AVP. I've tried to use the trigger output to switch on/off an external relay, which turns on/off the power supply for the fans.but it seems as if the trigger output cannot do this.
Gurkey, how do you actually switch the fans in sync?
Kindly
Jan

I have my fans connected to a smart strip. When the amps power on (using the 5509 triggers) they activate the smart strip slave socket and that powers on the fans. If you want to use a trigger to do it then you would need to use some sort of relay - not sure why this isn't working for you. You could also use USB-powered PC fans that can plug into the USB port on the back of the AVP. Finally, you could use temperature-operated fans which could be powered up permanently, only turning on and off as the temperature increases/decreases.
post #2474 of 2742
Hey, you're "my Mann " ;-) thanks Keith, I'll try the "smart strip" method, think it's the way to go for me, cause I already have one :-))
Kindly
Jan
post #2475 of 2742
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Originally Posted by runnernorth View Post

Hey, you're "my Mann " ;-) thanks Keith, I'll try the "smart strip" method, think it's the way to go for me, cause I already have one :-))
Kindly
Jan

Hi Jan, yes it works for me. If you don't like the idea of plugging an amp into an extension strip's master socket, then use something else that is always powered on when the system is in use. I use the screen as the master, for example because I never operate my system without the screen in use.
post #2476 of 2742
Oh, that's another thing, my smart power strip can only supply about 300watt, and my amp is using 1300-1400 watt, so this solution doesn't work for me.
Could I use a smart power strip with USB signal, attached to the USB port on the back of the AVP?
Kindly
Jan
post #2477 of 2742
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Originally Posted by runnernorth View Post

Oh, that's another thing, my smart power strip can only supply about 300watt, and my amp is using 1300-1400 watt, so this solution doesn't work for me.

is there something else you can plug into the smart strip master socket that is always in use when your system is powered? Anything that draws sufficient current to trip the slave sockets will work - monitor, source component etc. I use my monitor but then my smart strip can supply up to 3kW. Maybe a new smart strip with a higher spec?

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Could I use a smart power strip with USB signal, attached to the USB port on the back of the AVP?
Kindly
Jan

I doubt if it would supply enough current to power up the slaves. The way these things work is that the current drain from the master socket has to be enough to trip the slaves. USB ports only supply 5 volts. Not sure how you would connect it either. I use a Harmony 1100 remote to turn the system on so everything comes on with one button press - as soon as the monitor powers up, (which is attached to the master socket) then it operates the Slaves which then power on the fans and a small lamp (my gear is in a closet outside the viewing room). The reverse happens when I power down the system.

You can get USB PC fans which plug directly into the USB port and these will switch on and off with the AVR as the USB ports power up and down with the unit. The only slight drawback there is that because the ports only supply 5 volts, the fans tend to run slower than 12v powered fans and thus the cooling effect is reduced. It may still be enough for your purpose though. In fact, you can use any 12V PC fans and connect them to the USB ports simply by stripping the connector off and attaching the red and black wires to the red and black wires of a an old USB lead that has had the plug removed at one end.
post #2478 of 2742
Well, you gave me a couple of options there;-) I can't use the tv as master in the smart strip, as I don't always turn on my tv when the AVP is turned on.
You just came up with a good tip there, using the USB port to directly power the fans. Currently my fans are running at 5-6 volt, so the 5 volt from the USB port would be perfect in my setup :-) the port should be able to supply 0.5A, and that's sufficient for my fans.
Thx. Kindly
Jan :-)
post #2479 of 2742
You can get USB PC fans which plug directly into the USB port and these will switch on and off with the AVR as the USB ports power up and down with the unit. The only slight drawback there is that because the ports only supply 5 volts, the fans tend to run slower than 12v powered fans and thus the cooling effect is reduced. It may still be enough for your purpose though. In fact, you can use any 12V PC fans and connect them to the USB ports simply by stripping the connector off and attaching the red and black wires to the red and black wires of a an old USB lead that has had the plug removed at one end.[/quote]
Hi again :-/
Just tried the "USB version" , connected my fans directly to the USB port on the back of the AVP, the fans runs perfectly.
there's just a slightly problem, I can't turn them off just by turning off the AVP to St..by. Mode, I have to turn off the AVP completely by pushing the on/off button on the AVP. Bad luck :-/
Have try further options.....
Kindly
Jan
post #2480 of 2742
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Originally Posted by runnernorth View Post

Hi again :-/
Just tried the "USB version" , connected my fans directly to the USB port on the back of the AVP, the fans runs perfectly.
there's just a slightly problem, I can't turn them off just by turning off the AVP to St..by. Mode, I have to turn off the AVP completely by pushing the on/off button on the AVP. Bad luck :-/
Have try further options.....
Kindly
Jan

Onkyo must have changed the spec then. On my 5007 the USB power went off when the unit was in standby. Haven't tried it on my 5509.

The front panel USB port didn't power on and off with the AVP, IIRC but the rear USB port always did in the past. There is no setting that I can recall that would change that behaviour, so I can only assume that, for whatever reason, Onkyo have decided to power the rear USB permanently.
post #2481 of 2742
I just leave the fan running 24/7. Draws so little power I doubt if it matters.
post #2482 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

I just leave the fan running 24/7. Draws so little power I doubt if it matters.

Fair comment. Although your 100,000 hours MTBF will come around sooner

I wonder why Onkyo seem to have changed the spec on the rear USB port? In what circumstances would one want this to be permanently powered even when the unit is in standby?
post #2483 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Theresa View Post

I just leave the fan running 24/7. Draws so little power I doubt if it matters.

You're right Theresa, that's of course an option, and I'll be using it until I find a better solution.
Thanks :-)
Kindly
Jan
post #2484 of 2742
When does Onkyo / Integra release their new models? I just noticed that the 5508 has been removed from Onkyo's website, with no replacement. I suppose that means we are stuck with Integra. Has there been any word on an 80.4 and what new features it might have?
post #2485 of 2742
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Originally Posted by galvin View Post

When does Onkyo / Integra release their new models? I just noticed that the 5508 has been removed from Onkyo's website, with no replacement. I suppose that means we are stuck with Integra. Has there been any word on an 80.4 and what new features it might have?

Usually in the autumn (fall). It's too early yet to anticipate the new features of an 80.4 model. The 80.3 is identical in all but cosmetics to the 5509. It was originally stated that the 5509 would not be released in the USA, but since then there have been reports that it will (look back in this thread somewhere for details).
post #2486 of 2742
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Originally Posted by kbarnes701 View Post


Onkyo must have changed the spec then. On my 5007 the USB power went off when the unit was in standby. Haven't tried it on my 5509.

The front panel USB port didn't power on and off with the AVP, IIRC but the rear USB port always did in the past. There is no setting that I can recall that would change that behaviour, so I can only assume that, for whatever reason, Onkyo have decided to power the rear USB permanently.

It seems odd to me too, but have been reading "the bible " again and again, the only option to control the USB port on the back, is when the ORIGINAL Onkyo iPod/iPhone dock is connected, then we will be "allowed" to make some charge settings for the connected device:-/
Kindly
Jan
post #2487 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Manchild View Post

Anyone find the following odd? Try and visit http://www.onkyopro.com to be greeted with:

"Onkyo Pro is closed. Please visit Onkyo USA instead.
Click here if you are not automatically redirected within 15 seconds.

Thank you."

Between this and the lack of a 5509 US release my conspiracy theory is that the Onkyo Pro line is going away to leave basically Onkyo/Integra as the only two product lines.

I was about to grab a 5508 to test (wanted to vet the relay clicking myself), but was secretly hoping to get a 5509; looks like I'll be stuck with a 80.3

Thoughts?

According to Eiki (US distributor for Onkyo PRO) they are still alive and well.

Last I spoke to them, they still had 5508's.

They have no information on the 5509.
post #2488 of 2742
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Originally Posted by runnernorth View Post

It seems odd to me too, but have been reading "the bible " again and again, the only option to control the USB port on the back, is when the ORIGINAL Onkyo iPod/iPhone dock is connected, then we will be "allowed" to make some charge settings for the connected device:-/
Kindly
Jan

Sure - it just seems odd that the USB port used to be powered on and off with the unit entering or coming out of standby, and now it isn't. I can’t think of any circumstances where such a configuration would be useful. Next time I have reason to get around the back of my 5509 I'll see what happens on that unit.
post #2489 of 2742
Quick question; I had the 886 prior to the 5508 and I can't seem to work out how to check on the status of DRC with TrueHD audio from Blu-ray. Most will remember the fuss around Iron Man (which I imported from the States) automatically switching the DRC on with a notable reduction in dynamics. On the 886 I was easily able to monitor and defeat the forced DRC but I can't for the life of me work out how to do the same on the 5508.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

CDJay
post #2490 of 2742
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Originally Posted by CDJayRFU View Post

Quick question; I had the 886 prior to the 5508 and I can't seem to work out how to check on the status of DRC with TrueHD audio from Blu-ray. Most will remember the fuss around Iron Man (which I imported from the States) automatically switching the DRC on with a notable reduction in dynamics. On the 886 I was easily able to monitor and defeat the forced DRC but I can't for the life of me work out how to do the same on the 5508.

Any ideas?

Cheers!

CDJay

Have you tried (on the remote) the Home button->Audio and up/down arrow?
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