Originally Posted by nsiret
Thanks for the response Keith. I am interested in the Yamaha and am watching the reviews.
I was using an Onkyo Tx-NR5009 as a pre/pro and am currently using the CX-A5000 as my pre/pro. I consider myself as still auditioning the unit as it has only been in play for just over a week in my 5.2 setup.
I do have to say that the build quality of the Yamaha is top notch.
YPAO was a little quicker to set up using 8 locations and its angle adjustment than Audyssey. I am use it's FLAT YPAO curve.
Now to answer your sound question...
It is different than Onkyo, that is for sure. I was turned off by it at first but am warming up to the nuances in the sound. The Yamaha has a very forward sound when compared to the Onkyo.
The surrounds are much more subdued when watching HT, but more atmospheric for lack of a better description. The best way for me to describe it is when watching a movie on the Onkyo I would notice the surround more during an effect in the track that was utilizing them, but with the Yamaha, I noticed the speaker less and the effect seemed more natural with sounds moving from the back to the front. It was one of the things I noticed the most, how much quieter the surrounds were as compared to my Onkyo with Audyssey enabled. It has actually made me consider that the Onkyo may be over doing it, but to each their own. Voices are clearly audible. Bass is tight and punchy too.
The Yamaha DSP's are also very well done, much better than I remembered from my last Yamaha I owned almost 20 years ago. Atmospheric is the only way I can describe it.
When I went to two channel I was very put off at first. I felt that the sound stage was wider, but a bit bright for my liking with a strong bite. Then I discovered the DAC Digital Filter settings and once I engaged the Slow Roll Off setting, the brightness faded and things warmed up drastically. There is a clarity to the Yamaha that I did not notice with the Onkyo. Certain sounds are a tad bit more defined or prevalent for a better description.
There are pros and cons to both units and I am just starting to warm up to the Yamaha as I was very put off with it at first, though I am not sold on if I am going to keep it or not. I do have a feeling that with a few drinks and some more experience with the Yamaha, it may be a keeper.
There is no question in my opinion that they do sound substantially different and I will come down to personal preference but the Yamaha is a worthy piece of equipment to audition.
I would also like to give a Marantz 8801 a spin as well as I used Denon equipment for years before giving Onkyo a try.