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post #391 of 2742
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Originally Posted by kaotikr1 View Post

Larry,

I knew there had to be a way to get the video off. I read someone say on an old model it was aux and power. I went through all the power and input and then moved to input an the return button.

This shuts off all Onkyo video processing until you turn it on manually. So it's a workaround that will last until you decide to re-enable the video processing.

Everything works as if the Onkyo was not in the chain. Each input displays on my RS40 exactly as I have it set from the source. I tested it for about 20 min turning it off, on. Switching inputs, switching between 3D and 2D. Etc. No issues.

Another user named Dave read my post and it worked for him also. I was not going to live with the problem for long and glad I don't have too.

Hi,

Very clever!

Yes, that other user is Dave Vaughn, a professional reviewer for Home Theater Magazine. Hopefully Dave's conversations with Integra's product manager will carry some weight, be communicated over to the Onkyo side of the business, and result in a prompt fix.

Larry
post #392 of 2742
A poster on the 80.2 forum has made this claim:

"The 80.2 does NOT pass YCbCr 4:2:2 correctly - you should use 4:4:4 or RGB.

There is a loss in fine Chroma details - you can see this quite easily if you use the Spears and Munsil test disc Chroma Multiburst or Chroma Plate pattern."

Can anyone provide additional info on this? (Others on 80.2 are skeptical.)
post #393 of 2742
Has anyone that has upgraded from the previous generation pre-pros switched from rear surrounds to height or width channels? I wonder if it would be beneficial for me. My ceilings are not that high (7'). My 885 will be replaced with the 5508 and I don't have 2 more channels of amplification right now.
post #394 of 2742
Just thought I would post a little review of the 5508 over the 885.
First what I think is a step backwards: The remote, you lost a lot of the direct access like channel level. It is now buried in sub menus. It does click more than the 885 but after about 10 min. I didn't even notice it anymore. Also, audyssey must be told you only have 1 sub or you get a speaker detect error. It should be able to figure that out.

The pros: I am not a big 2 channel music listener. I never just sit and listen to music, but this processor could make me do that. The realism and clarity that it added stopped me in my tracks. Everything was so clear and voices so distinct it caught me off guard. Maybe someone with a more critical ear would have a different opinion.
The video processing is amazing. The upconversion is better than the BD85's in my opinion.
For movie watching, at first I thought the bass was low. I generally like a lot of bass for movies. Then I noticed there were a lot of different levels to the bass. Now, everything doesn't sound like the same. I think I was getting a lot of bloated, system induced bass that wasn't encoded in the soundtrack. I wasn't expecting much difference as I think I am getting closer to diminishing returns. I do believe this was more than I bargained for. The positives far outweigh the negatives. I will have no qualms about selling the 885 now. It is very good but this is better.
post #395 of 2742
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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

For movie watching, at first I thought the bass was low. I generally like a lot of bass for movies. Then I noticed there were a lot of different levels to the bass. Now, everything doesn't sound like the same. I think I was getting a lot of bloated, system induced bass that wasn't encoded in the soundtrack.

The thinking is that this is from the much higher resolution Audyssey filters on the main channels better handling room modes from 400-500 down to the mains crossover point. Clean that area up and everything sounds better from eliminating overhang/ringing that had been masking.

The in increase in clarity/transparency is probably from the higher quality components such as DACs.

Jeff
post #396 of 2742
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

The thinking is that this is from the much higher resolution Audyssey filters on the main channels better handling room modes from 400-500 down to the mains crossover point. Clean that area up and everything sounds better from eliminating overhang/ringing that had been masking.

The in increase in clarity/transparency is probably from the higher quality components such as DACs.

Jeff

I am by no means an expert. What you said sounds plausible. Whatever the case, I think the bang-for-buck is incredible on this piece. It made my Def Techs into a whole different speaker. I thought speakers made a bigger difference than the components, but this may have changed my mind.
I would like to hear a very expensive system to compare it to. I can't imagine that I could get that much better. However, I think I said that about the 885 too.
post #397 of 2742
I came from an 805 to an 80.2 and it a made major change in system. studio 40v2,ccv2 center, adpv2, pw2200, buttkickers (much smoother) mca20,mca5, richard gray power, 60lx900 3d tv, ps3, sony 770 3d player, xa2 Hd player, sacd sounds awesome. Came from avm20 before the 805 and always missed it .
post #398 of 2742
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Originally Posted by T100 View Post
I came from an 805 to an 80.2 and it a made major change in system. studio 40v2,ccv2 center, adpv2, pw2200, buttkickers (much smoother) mca20,mca5, richard gray power, 60lx900 3d tv, ps3, sony 770 3d player, xa2 Hd player, sacd sounds awesome. Came from avm20 before the 805 and always missed it .
Miss it now?
post #399 of 2742
I get hum every time the relays click when they disengage.
post #400 of 2742
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Originally Posted by pras1011 View Post

I get hum every time the relays click when they disengage.

Have you checked your cabling/connectors? Got rid of hum in one (active) speaker by using a different cable.
post #401 of 2742
I going to switch from RCA to XLR as I have a Sunfire amp.
post #402 of 2742
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Originally Posted by pepar View Post

Miss it now?

No not at all . The 805 was a convenience for switching from the 20 and missed the sound Q. The 80.2 has all the features at the price and the sound Q to boot, great piece as a preamp. hopefully a can put this hobby to rest. (haha)
post #403 of 2742
So what do you guys think of this pre-pro? Any other units to look into before I bring in a demo unit with 1.4 HDMI?
post #404 of 2742
At this point this be the one, along with its twin the Integra 80.2, if you want Audyssey MultEQ XT 32. Some are going the Denon 4311CI route and turning off the power amp sections. Personally, it seems wrong to buy an AVR to get a pre/pro. Outlaw Audio is soon to have a new model with what you and I mentioned.
post #405 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

So what do you guys think of this pre-pro? Any other units to look into before I bring in a demo unit with 1.4 HDMI?

I have the 5507 and it is a fantastic sounding Pre-amp.

- Rich
post #406 of 2742
^^^ Yep I do too, time to set up a new system in a different room. I ordered one from my network. These have a low dealer price I also ordered some Red Dragon Mono Blocks. Hopefully they get here buy Friday......
post #407 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma View Post

^^^ Yep I do too, time to set up a new system in a different room. I ordered one from my network. These have a low dealer price I also ordered some Red Dragon Mono Blocks. Hopefully they get here buy Friday......

what can you get me one for?
post #408 of 2742
I sent a PM, call us anytime.
post #409 of 2742
Tried the feed the Reon a 480i signal over hdmi. Everytime I enabled that output on the player, the screen had a greenish cast to it. Change to 480P everything OK. Does the Reon not like 480i? The players are both Toshiba HD-DVD players, one an A-20, the other an A-35.
post #410 of 2742
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Originally Posted by ezervoud View Post

The web management is a joke and I hope that it will be impoved. I am expecting the promised iphone app to see if I will get any better management there

I am also interested in the official Onkyo app.

Currently, I primarily use oRemote on my iPad and am beta testing OnkoTron (which is only an iPod/iPhone app). Each have their own pros and cons.
post #411 of 2742
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Originally Posted by ezervoud View Post

I have not tested extensively playing SACD yet and I am not happy that I have to go analog for SACD
The web management is a joke and I hope that it will be impoved. I am expecting the promised iphone app to see if I will get any better management there

Why do you have to go analog for SACD? It's not a limitation of the 5508. I listen to SACD over HDMI from my Oppo DV-983H without difficulty.

I look forward to the iPhone app as well, but I seriously doubt it will improve the admittedly poor Web navigation. I'm guessing the app will simply mirror any existing functionality of the 5508.
post #412 of 2742
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Originally Posted by hawkster27 View Post

Why do you have to go analog for SACD? It's not a limitation of the 5508.

It is a limitation of his player.
post #413 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

It is a limitation of his player.

As I suspected. Odd complaint on this thread, though.
post #414 of 2742
Hi Kal,

How's the review coming along, curious if you'll be doing any direct SQ comparisons between it and your Pre6?
post #415 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Hughman View Post

Hi Kal,

How's the review coming along, curious if you'll be doing any direct SQ comparisons between it and your Pre6?

Haven't had a Pre6 for years.
post #416 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson View Post

Haven't had a Pre6 for years.

My mistake, for some reason thought you reviewed one last year and still had it.
post #417 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Hughman View Post

My mistake, for some reason thought you reviewed one last year and still had it.

Time flies. Also, the 5508 never arrived but I am told that the 80.2 is in shipment now. We'll see.
post #418 of 2742
What do you think the differences will really be between the 5508n and the 80.2?
post #419 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Jrunr View Post

What do you think the differences will really be between the 5508n and the 80.2?

?? I really doubt there would be any. That's why I was willing to take either one for review.
post #420 of 2742
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Originally Posted by kkpro View Post

Tried the feed the Reon a 480i signal over hdmi. Everytime I enabled that output on the player, the screen had a greenish cast to it. Change to 480P everything OK. Does the Reon not like 480i? The players are both Toshiba HD-DVD players, one an A-20, the other an A-35.

Called Onkyo Tech support, said to reset the system. It should play the discs just fiine.
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