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post #571 of 2742
AS far as I can tell, the IRK-180-4 is the rack mount kit for all Onk/Integra 4U (7") high units. What's more, that part is listed on their websites as being the rack mount kit for the particular units. Dealers need to read ...
post #572 of 2742
I've provided that part number, but the dealers still have a hard time actually sourcing it to purchase. No idea why, but these rack ears are like friggin' unicorns.
post #573 of 2742
there is a guy over at the emo lounge that did custom handles for his xpa5.
post #574 of 2742
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Originally Posted by FoSheezy View Post

Anyone here running the MC5500 with their 5508? Are you happy with it?

I have an XPA3 and two UPA2s and am considering the 5500. I would keep the XPA3 and run 6 channels off the 5500.

Also, I havent been able to find actual measurements of the 5500 with all channels driven. Has anyone come across those numbers?

There is a thread over at the Emotiva forums where a guy is running the MC5500 with his 5508 processor.
post #575 of 2742
The manual doesnt say much about "straight decode". Must be something in these newer units. My 876 didnt have that listed under listening mode presets. On the 5508, under Dolby TrueHD, there isnt a selection for Dolby TrueHD as a preset. My 876 had this.
post #576 of 2742
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

The manual doesnt say much about "straight decode". Must be something in these newer units. My 876 didnt have that listed under listening mode presets. On the 5508, under Dolby TrueHD, there isnt a selection for Dolby TrueHD as a preset. My 876 had this.

Direct or Pure Direct will get you what you want, I think.

Before moving to 2-channel, I had everything set to Direct and I always got the correct processing.
post #577 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Hammie View Post

Direct or Pure Direct will get you what you want, I think.

Before moving to 2-channel, I had everything set to Direct and I always got the correct processing.

Lou, you know what I mean? If you go to the listening presets, so if I'm watching a bluray with dts master audio, on my 876 you could tell the avr that if it sees dts master audio, that you want it to use dts mstr hd. On the 5508, that listening preset wasn't there.
post #578 of 2742
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

On the 5508, that listening preset wasn't there.

Is the only option str8 decode?
post #579 of 2742
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

Lou, you know what I mean? If you go to the listening presets, so if I'm watching a bluray with dts master audio, on my 876 you could tell the avr that if it sees dts master audio, that you want it to use dts mstr hd. On the 5508, that listening preset wasn't there.

I have never owned an Onkyo before, but I don't remember my Denon having an actual DTS MA HD preset. It was just recognized in the bitstream.

I'm not sure if I can help any further. Sorry.
post #580 of 2742
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Originally Posted by e2g_ View Post
Is the only option str8 decode?
No, but none of the other presets are what I'm looking for. O well, I'll play with it when I get home in the morning.
post #581 of 2742
Something interesting has happened to my system. I just sold my subs because i am going to go with something else. I changed my configuration to no subs and i am no longer getting any audio clicks, can someone explain this?
post #582 of 2742
I have a strange issue with my 5508.
When i play Michael jackson this is it on blu-ray and i want to play loud, there is no difference from vol 0 to +18 rel thx. Audio DTS-HD MA.
When i change to direct mode it gets louder over vol 0.
post #583 of 2742
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Originally Posted by mal01 View Post

Something interesting has happened to my system. I just sold my subs because i am going to go with something else. I changed my configuration to no subs and i am no longer getting any audio clicks, can someone explain this?

I wonder if the clicking has to do with changing audio formats (changing channels or commercials) from DD 5.1 that has a dedicated LFE channel to 2.0 analog (DDPLIIx used) that does not have a dedicated LFE channel. With no sub selected maybe the clicking (relays?) is directly related to the LFE channel. Could be possible and it might be a good idea to contact Onkyo with this information.

Bill
post #584 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Bill Mac View Post

I wonder if the clicking has to do with changing audio formats (changing channels or commercials) from DD 5.1 that has a dedicated LFE channel to 2.0 analog (DDPLIIx used) that does not have a dedicated LFE channel. With no sub selected maybe the clicking (relays?) is directly related to the LFE channel. Could be possible and it might be a good idea to contact Onkyo with this information.

Bill

I noticed tonight that this thing clicks alot. When I was playing a dvd tonight through my sony bluray player, everytime I went to another chapter, it clicked. It clicks when you watch a movie and go into the HOME menu and change the Bass level on the subs.

Anyway, on a side note, I played around with Saving Private Ryan on bluray, and Hurt Locker on DVD tonight. I havent got a chance to run Audyssey XT32 yet, but I was impressed with the sound quality with no EQ.
post #585 of 2742
The default option on the RE EQ (THX) is ON but i prefer that it will be OFF.
I couldn't find the way to set it on "OFF" position and this means that every time i have to get to the HOME menu and change it manually.
Does anyone have an idea how to set it to OFF once and for all?
post #586 of 2742
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Originally Posted by KRP-600M View Post

The default option on the RE EQ (THX) is ON but i prefer that it will be OFF.
I couldn't find the way to set it on "OFF" position and this means that every time i have to get to the HOME menu and change it manually.
Does anyone have an idea how to set it to OFF once and for all?

When watching a bluray last night, I noticed it was OFF already for me. It was of course under the home menu.
post #587 of 2742
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

When watching a bluray last night, I noticed it was OFF already for me. It was of course under the home menu.

This thing also has so many new sound fields. My 876 didnt have all of these newer ones.
post #588 of 2742
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Originally Posted by KRP-600M View Post

The default option on the RE EQ (THX) is ON but i prefer that it will be OFF.
I couldn't find the way to set it on "OFF" position and this means that every time i have to get to the HOME menu and change it manually.
Does anyone have an idea how to set it to OFF once and for all?

It is covered on page 64 of the manual. It remembers the Re-EQ setting by Listening Mode but the THX ones always revert back to ON when the unit is powered off.
post #589 of 2742
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Originally Posted by Dundas View Post

It is covered on page 64 of the manual. It remembers the Re-EQ setting by Listening Mode but the THX ones always revert back to ON when the unit is powered off.

I was under the impression that the THX modes use Re-EQ by default anyway. Chris(Audyssey) just got finished explaining this to me.

If you are in THX mode, then Re-EQ is applied. Onkyo automatically switches MultEQ to the Audyssey Flat curve and that way Re-EQ can apply its high frequency roll off as intended. However, if you are not in THX mode you can also turn on Re-EQ manually. That's a bad idea because it will be applied on top of the Audyssey Reference curve high frequency roll off.
post #590 of 2742
Ok, finally got around to running Audyssey XT32. First impression are very good. I definately noticed that this version is better than my last MultEQ XT.

When I plugged the setup mic in, I noticed that this version allows you to calibrate the sub level of each sub independently to 75db before you even start. First, it ask if you have 1 sub(1ch.) or 2 subs(2ch.). You put your mic in your main listening position and calibrate each sub with the gain or volume on the back of the subs. I got both subs calibrated to 75db-76db by using the gain or volume knobs on the back of each sub.

On to the calibration. After getting the subs inline, I put my mic stand behind my seats and extended the mic in between the seats in my main listening posistion. I noticed that it goes very fast not wasting much time in between each speaker chirp. After hitting the middle of my MLP, and them first two seats, I moved to the mic to the in between the last two seats. Took another measurement in the opposite spot for a total of five. My sixth and seventh measurement fell in the middle of the last two seats. The eighth and final measurement, I took in the very middle of the listening posistion, but in front of where the first measurement was taken.

After the calculations came back, I wasnt suprised to see the results, since my Onkyo 876 had basically the same results. I know this Audyssey version did a way better job on the sound qualtiy though. The initial settings were: Fronts 40hz, Center 50hz, Surrounds 40hz, LPF of LFE 120hz. Level calibration had to be raised via SPL meter. Audyssey set each speaker at or around 68db. It also set my subs to -12.5db each. I of course raised each speaker to 75db with the SPL meter on my mic stand at the main listening posistion. The distance that Audyssey saw for each speaker was pretty accurate. At least I know that each speaker is pretty close to the same spot relative to the other.

I ran some music through without changing anything but the calibration level. It sounded pretty damn good. I played "Nutshell" by Alice in Chains Unplugged and was definately impressed with what Audyssey had done. After playing a couple more songs I felt like the bass was lacking. While listening to some tunes, I started searching in the Onkyo setup, I came to a option under Audio Source which was greyed out before I ran Audyssey. It said "Audyssey". I clicked on it and Dynamic EQ came up. It was OFF. I turned it ON and the sound got EVEN better! I quickly ran some Pearl Jam, Aggressive Expansion, Nirvana Unplugged, and Metallica. I was impressed yet again with what Audyssey had done.

I played around with the sound field while listening to the music and found that Dolby Pro Logic II Music sounded the best. I swapped to Pure Audio and found that it sounded wonderful also. I quickly realized why, I had not changed the mains crossover point. The RF63s were kicking major ass in the bass department. I went in to the speaker setup again and changed all the crossover points of the mains, center and surrounds to 80hz. All of a sudden the SUBS woke up and joined the party.

After setting Dynamic EQ ON, changing the crossover points to 80hz, and getting the calibration level set for each speaker, I felt complete. The subs were booming like they were supposed to and the other speakers were doing their natural job in turn.

I havent gotten a chane to run some blu scenes through this baby yet, but will hopefully tonight. All and all, what little time I had with Audyssey XT32, my initial impressions are good. I plan to tinker a bit more Im sure. Im a perfectionist, or at lest try to be.
post #591 of 2742
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post
Ok, finally got around to running Audyssey XT32. First impression are very good. I definately noticed that this version is better than my last MultEQ XT.

When I plugged the setup mic in, I noticed that this version allows you to calibrate the sub level of each sub independently to 75db before you even start. First, it ask if you have 1 sub(1ch.) or 2 subs(2ch.). You put your mic in your main listening position and calibrate each sub with the gain or volume on the back of the subs. I got both subs calibrated to 75db-76db by using the gain or volume knobs on the back of each sub.

On to the calibration. After getting the subs inline, I put my mic stand behind my seats and extended the mic in between the seats in my main listening posistion. I noticed that it goes very fast not wasting much time in between each speaker chirp. After hitting the middle of my MLP, and them first two seats, I moved to the mic to the in between the last two seats. Took another measurement in the opposite spot for a total of five. My sixth and seventh measurement fell in the middle of the last two seats. The eighth and final measurement, I took in the very middle of the listening posistion, but in front of where the first measurement was taken.

After the calculations came back, I wasnt suprised to see the results, since my Onkyo 876 had basically the same results. I know this Audyssey version did a way better job on the sound qualtiy though. The initial settings were: Fronts 40hz, Center 50hz, Surrounds 40hz, LPF of LFE 120hz. Level calibration had to be raised via SPL meter. Audyssey set each speaker at or around 68db. It also set my subs to -12.5db each. I of course raised each speaker to 75db with the SPL meter on my mic stand at the main listening posistion. The distance that Audyssey saw for each speaker was pretty accurate. At least I know that each speaker is pretty close to the same spot relative to the other.

I ran some music through without changing anything but the calibration level. It sounded pretty damn good. I played "Nutshell" by Alice in Chains Unplugged and was definately impressed with what Audyssey had done. After playing a couple more songs I felt like the bass was lacking. While listening to some tunes, I started searching in the Onkyo setup, I came to a option under Audio Source which was greyed out before I ran Audyssey. It said "Audyssey". I clicked on it and Dynamic EQ came up. It was OFF. I turned it ON and the sound got EVEN better! I quickly ran some Pearl Jam, Aggressive Expansion, Nirvana Unplugged, and Metallica. I was impressed yet again with what Audyssey had done.

I played around with the sound field while listening to the music and found that Dolby Pro Logic II Music sounded the best. I swapped to Pure Audio and found that it sounded wonderful also. I quickly realized why, I had not changed the mains crossover point. The RF63s were kicking major ass in the bass department. I went in to the speaker setup again and changed all the crossover points of the mains, center and surrounds to 80hz. All of a sudden the SUBS woke up and joined the party.

After setting Dynamic EQ ON, changing the crossover points to 80hz, and getting the calibration level set for each speaker, I felt complete. The subs were booming like they were supposed to and the other speakers were doing their natural job in turn.

I havent gotten a chane to run some blu scenes through this baby yet, but will hopefully tonight. All and all, what little time I had with Audyssey XT32, my initial impressions are good. I plan to tinker a bit more Im sure. Im a perfectionist, or at lest try to be.
Glad to hear you are enjoying the new toy even more.
post #592 of 2742
watched some scenes last night of Hurt Locker, wow.
post #593 of 2742
I would like to add the Onkyo remote codes to my Pronto Pro TSU 9400. I didn't find much on Remote Central. ProntoEdit includes a number of Receivers but no pre's. I've never owned an Onkyo. Are the remote codes similar between models? Do the receiver remotes work with the pre/pro's? How about the Integra codes?

Thanks in advance and If anyone has an Onkyo PR SC5508 Pronto xcf file I would appreciate it.

George
post #594 of 2742
I have browsed through this thread but only saw references to these issues.

Can anyone confirm that Audyssey Pro Calibration is indeed available on the 5508, I did see that they planned to allow it via a firmware upgrade but did that actually happen? Does it do firmware upgrades via an internet connection?

Was there any firmware updates for the loud relay clicks or is it just something you have to live with? I had a Integra 80.1 and the relay clicks were too much in my room.

Sorry if this has already been covered but I didn't find definitive answers to these questions while browsing through the thread.
post #595 of 2742
I do notice that the 5508 clicks alot more than my 876, but I dont see why it is really that big of a deal. Its not like it clicks the whole way through a movie?
post #596 of 2742
During movies the relay clicks were a non issue for me, it was watching TV were the relay clicks were unacceptable with the 80.1 and that was with using the presets that were recommended in the 80.1 thread.
post #597 of 2742
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Originally Posted by GeorgeHolland View Post
I would like to add the Onkyo remote codes to my Pronto Pro TSU 9400. I didnt find much on Remote Central. ProntoEdit includes a number of Receivers but no pres. Ive never owned an Onkyo. Are the remote codes similar between models? Do the receiver remotes work with the pre/pros? How about the Integra codes?

Thanks in advance and If anyone has an Onkyo PR SC5508 Pronto xcf file I would appreciate it.

George
I have attached an excel spreadsheet with the IR codes.

- Rich

 

Onkyo_AVR.zip 237.150390625k . file
post #598 of 2742
Quote:
Originally Posted by mjaudio View Post

I have browsed through this thread but only saw references to these issues.

Can anyone confirm that Audyssey Pro Calibration is indeed available on the 5508, I did see that they planned to allow it via a firmware upgrade but did that actually happen? Does it do firmware upgrades via an internet connection?

Was there any firmware updates for the loud relay clicks or is it just something you have to live with? I had a Integra 80.1 and the relay clicks were too much in my room.

Sorry if this has already been covered but I didn't find definitive answers to these questions while browsing through the thread.

It definively is PRO compatible.
post #599 of 2742
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Originally Posted by heja View Post

It definively is PRO compatible.

Definitely what I wanted to hear Thanks
post #600 of 2742
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Originally Posted by nezff View Post

I do notice that the 5508 clicks alot more than my 876, but I dont see why it is really that big of a deal. Its not like it clicks the whole way through a movie?

Is it just random clicking?
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