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post #1291 of 8518
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Originally Posted by snoots View Post

Is there a "default" mode for playback of DVDs and BluRay discs that gives the optimal surround quality?

Yes, in fact, many. Dolby Digital for Dolby Digital tracks. Dolby TrueHD for Dolby TrueHD tracks. DTS for DTS tracks. DTS-HD Master Audio for DTS-HD Master Audio tracks. And multichannel PCM for multichannel PCM tracks.

If you are listening in 7 channel stereo, then you are not really experiencing multichannel audio, as 7 channel stereo is little more than "party mode," which sends the same two channel stereo signal to every speaker pair.

AJ
post #1292 of 8518
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Originally Posted by Daryl L View Post

...After YPAO does it's thing can I go in and manually calibrate the subs output to 78db using my SPL meter?

YPAO tries to set all speakers to the same level, but not necessarily to 75dB. And even if it does, your SPL meter might not agree with the YPAO mic. So use the internal test tones and see what reading you get for the main speakers, then set your sub relative to that. But remember that the meter is likely not so accurate with the low frequency sub test tones.
post #1293 of 8518
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

YPAO tries to set all speakers to the same level, but not necessarily to 75dB. And even if it does, your SPL meter might not agree with the YPAO mic. So use the internal test tones and see what reading you get for the main speakers, then set your sub relative to that. But remember that the meter is likely not so accurate with the low frequency sub test tones.

Yeah, after YPAO runs I'll use the internal test tones with the SPL meter to see what YPAO did. My subs when calibrating fluctuates 2db so if YPAO sets it somewhere close to 75db (say 74db) I'll measure it to fluctuate from say 76db to 78db which centered would be 77db. That should give me my 3db boost. I just wanted to make sure YPAO allowed manual output level tweaking after being ran (like Pioneers MCACC allowed which Audyssey won't allow).
post #1294 of 8518
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post

Mark... it is actually not "legal" to convert HDMI sources to Component.... part of HDCP, etc..

The only processor out there that does it is the Emotiva UMC-1.

Thanks for the heads-up. I figured that it had something to do with that... as if people would copy the HD content via component output vs. burning the media/discs directly.

I ended up purchasing the RX-V1900 on sale at the 'Egg. Saved a TON over MSRP.
post #1295 of 8518
replaced my yamaha htr 5860 with the rx a1000 today. i really like the sound,osg,and hdmi pass thru. can i wire into the receiver's ir in and ir out on the back panel with my speaker craft ir repeater terminal box?
post #1296 of 8518
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Originally Posted by snoots View Post

-I have been using 7 channel stereo mode for BluRay and DVD concerts and the sound is very good even just driving the current speaker setup. I am just wondering how to get the best overall surround sound for my current speaker setup when viewing movies and blurays. I could not find under amplifier/speaker set up an actual 5.1 layout. I am using a Phase Linear 700 as my front left and right amplifier ( pre out ) and the internal amps for the rest. Any suggestions would be appreciated. The manual is a bit iffy on a layout like mine.

As mentioned before, DON'T use any "Stereo mode" with multi channel input. When in stereo mode, 2ch, 7ch or 11ch, the first thing the AVR does is to convert the sound to 2ch stereo. Then it upconverts to however many channels you've selected. So you've lost all benefit of your multi channell source. 7ch stereo is to create ambiance in a party type atmosphere where people are all over the house and not in the normal listening position.

Start out with "Straight", that will give you the normal soundfield as it was mixed. Then experiment with different soundfields, see what you like. For movies, I've read that Yamaha has put the most effort into "Sci Fi", and indeed I like that best. The only parameter I change is "Dialog Lift", which requires front presence speakers. I use "3" for dialog lift in both soundfields I use. I like "Music Video" for musicals. That's the only two soundfields I use, but thats just me.
post #1297 of 8518
Thanks for the input, I'll give that a shot.
post #1298 of 8518
How well do these models EQ subwoofers? and especially if you have 2 subwoofers?
post #1299 of 8518
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Originally Posted by clausdk View Post

How well do these models EQ subwoofers? and especially if you have 2 subwoofers?

The A3000 does a basic equalization. (My guess is the other models are the same.) It's not going to replace a Behringer BFD...
post #1300 of 8518
The 2000/3000 can EQ two subs independently, but the available filter frequencies are limited to 1/3 octave intervals. So I agree that an external equalizer would be better.

The 1000 only really supports one sub (the two sub outputs are the same), but as far as I can tell there is actually no EQ at all for the sub on the 1000. That seems strange, but the sub is missing from the list of speakers when you try to do manual EQ (at least according to the manual and to Receiver Manager).
post #1301 of 8518
Guys, my TWC cable box has hdmi out but will not output DD5.1 thru it. I've been running it's hdmi straight to my tv and it's coaxial digital output to my receiver. When I hook up my RX-A800 I'd like to be able to use the receivers OSD while watching cable without having to switch the tv's input. Can I assign a digital input to an hdmi input for my cable box usage? Thx for any info in advance.

UPDATE!!
Ok nvm, after looking at the manual again you assign an AV1-4 to any HDMI1-5. I was looking for coaxial/optical assignment to hdmi like my current Pioneer had.
post #1302 of 8518
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Originally Posted by Daryl L View Post

Guys, my TWC cable box has hdmi out but will not output DD5.1 thru it. I've been running it's hdmi straight to my tv and it's coaxial digital output to my receiver. When I hook up my RX-A800 I'd like to be able to use the receivers OSD while watching cable without having to switch the tv's input. Can I assign a digital input to an hdmi input for my cable box usage? Thx for any info in advance.

UPDATE!!
Ok nvm, after looking at the manual again you assign an AV1-4 to any HDMI1-5. I was looking for coaxial/optical assignment to hdmi like my current Pioneer had.

One thing to be aware of is that on many TVs, including Samsung models, using the TV's optical out will only supply a 2.0 channel signal when the incoming source is NOT OTA HD 5.1.

Here's an example, directly from my TV's manual:

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x When the receiver (amplifier or DVD home theater) is set to on, you can hear sound output from the TV'soptical jack. When the TV is receiving a DTV signal, the TV will send 5.1 CH sound to the amplifier or DVDhome theater. When the source is a digital component such as a DVD / Blu-ray player / cable box / STB(Set-Top-Box) satellite receiver and is connected to the TV via HDMI, only 2 CH audio will be heard from theamplifier or DVD home theater. If you want to hear 5.1 CH audio, connect the digital audio out jack from yourDVD / Blu-ray player / cable box / STB satellite receiver directly to an amplifier or home theater.

Note the bolded part. I suspect most, if not all TVs will act the same due to HDCP compliance regulations. The best solution is to use the HDMI directly to the AVR, and then passthrough HDMI to the TV, using the setting that forces HDMI audio to be routed through to the TV in addition to the AVR. That way you get 5.1 when you want it, and the TV can still get audio for the times when you don't want to hear audio through the HT speakers.
post #1303 of 8518
Thanks for answering the sub EQ questions. I also looked through the manual as well.

I want to upgrade my pioneer ax2 reciever, but the next one I get must have a very good dual sub eq in it!
post #1304 of 8518
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Originally Posted by clausdk View Post

I want to upgrade my pioneer ax2 reciever, but the next one I get must have a very good dual sub eq in it!

I don't think an AVR like that exists. Of course, thst depends on your definition of "Very good". Get a Behringer BFD for a hundred bucks or less. Not a very intuitive setup, but there's lots of info on the web to set one up. I think it's going to be a long wait for an AVR that'll equalize two subs as well as the BFD...
post #1305 of 8518
Denon 4311, with XT32 has dual sub EQ as does all of the new Integra's
post #1306 of 8518
Hello All RXA 3000 owners

I'm very much interested in this unit and currently own a denon 4311.
I really liked the Z7 but i 4311 was same price as Z7 so unfortunately .. the yami had to go back.

I would like to know if RXA-3000 would easily match Z7 performance ?

For ppl who like to know ... the bass response and control of 4311 is better than Z7. Music is a blast on 4311 (specially stereo on any input. net/usb is too good) .. only thing I'm missing is video capabilities and dialogue were clearer on Z7. Also they both have different sound .. and somehow .. I liked the yami (stuck in my head)
post #1307 of 8518
Hello, I just purchased my RX-A2000 last week and I got everything hooked up over the weekend. I couldn't resist the NewEgg deal on the receiver that they had. I have my system set up as a 7.1 system. I ran YPO and it completed successfully. I am feeding the receiver through HDMI from a PS3 Slim. I have some questions about the different surround modes. When I am watching a Bluray that has Dolby True HD is that a 7.1 or 5.1 speaker setup? The reason I am asking is because I don't beleive that we are hearing anything out of the rear surround speakers and the indicator on the front of the receiver does not show the speakers as being active (just the surrounds). I have the receiver set for "Straight" and the Surround Decoder.

Should the receiver be displaying the Dolby True HD on the screen much in the same way that it does with the DTS HD or do I not have something setup incorrectly? My 7.1 setup is 2 fronts, 1 center, 1 sub, 2 surround, and 2 rear surround speakers. I am sure it is just something simple and I have read the manual and understood about as much as I can understand from reading it.
post #1308 of 8518
Just received my A3000 (actually its 3067 europe and Asia Model)..

Its a good upgrade from 3900.. Love the 7 HDMI INs on the back (generous)..

However, I believe it is a 9.1 AMP.. Isnt it?

So I played transformers 2 with 5.1 DTS HD track in straight mode and activated extended surround Dolby PLIIx Movie to become 7.1.. How can I add the presence front speakers to the mix?

Because when I tried Yamaha DSPs (Movie) Spectacle I couldnt set the extended surround to PLIIx Movie I only had EX/ES..

Cant I have cinema 3D with extended Dolby PLIIx Movie applied?


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Solved!
I got it.. I had to change my speaker config to 7.1 + Front.. I thought I made this yesterday but I think YPAO edited it..
post #1309 of 8518
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Originally Posted by vi_c View Post

Hello All RXA 3000 owners

I'm very much interested in this unit and currently own a denon 4311.
I really liked the Z7 but i 4311 was same price as Z7 so unfortunately .. the yami had to go back.

I would like to know if RXA-3000 would easily match Z7 performance ?

For ppl who like to know ... the bass response and control of 4311 is better than Z7. Music is a blast on 4311 (specially stereo on any input. net/usb is too good) .. only thing I'm missing is video capabilities and dialogue were clearer on Z7. Also they both have different sound .. and somehow .. I liked the yami (stuck in my head)

Go to on screen menu then Input.. Select your input and press Option on your remote a menu will appear select Extended Surround and choose PLIIx Movie..
post #1310 of 8518
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Originally Posted by vi_c View Post

Hello All RXA 3000 owners

I'm very much interested in this unit and currently own a denon 4311.
I really liked the Z7 but i 4311 was same price as Z7 so unfortunately .. the yami had to go back.

I would like to know if RXA-3000 would easily match Z7 performance ?

For ppl who like to know ... the bass response and control of 4311 is better than Z7. Music is a blast on 4311 (specially stereo on any input. net/usb is too good) .. only thing I'm missing is video capabilities and dialogue were clearer on Z7. Also they both have different sound .. and somehow .. I liked the yami (stuck in my head)

I've owned the Z7, Z11, and believe it or not, have both a 4311 and A3000 in house right now.

The A3000 has better a better amp section... very comparable to the Z7...

I like the Yami better in terms of sound quality (although the XT32 is a great feature...)
post #1311 of 8518
FilmMixer,
Can you post after testing both units and give us pro's and con's on both thanks.
post #1312 of 8518
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Originally Posted by golfugh View Post
Denon 4311, with XT32 has dual sub EQ as does all of the new Integra's
Yeah, That's not what I was talking about. The A3000 has dual sub equalization too. Can you equalize 12 different frequencies on each sub with the 4311?
post #1313 of 8518
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Originally Posted by FilmMixer View Post
I've owned the Z7, Z11, and believe it or not, have both a 4311 and A3000 in house right now.

The A3000 has better a better amp section... very comparable to the Z7...

I like the Yami better in terms of sound quality (although the XT32 is a great feature...)
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That's good to hear. Have you played with 4311 thoroughly to compare?
post #1314 of 8518
Does the multeq in onkyo 808 which also includes eq for the sub beat the "new ypao with reflected sound"..?!? ( does it have eq for sub ?? )

Or

Does the new ypao blow the multeq out of water...?!?
post #1315 of 8518
I see that Egg again has their gift card promos on this weekend so will be ordering the A3000 to replace my (nearly 7 year old) RX-Z9. Although my main tv (also 7 years old) doesn't have HDMI, it does have a DVI interface connection (which I've never used) that supports (some version of) HDCP, so I'm hoping that I can connect that to A3000 using DVI-HDMI cable to get an improved picture over what I currently have using component signal from Z9. If this works, it will also mean that I can eliminate numerous component video + digital audio cables as most of my input sources provide HDMI.
post #1316 of 8518
Looking to replace my DSP A-1 has been a great receiver and workhorse with absolutely no problems!!!

Can any of the 3000 owners confirm that the 2 big "knobs" are made of metal versus plastic???

The Newegg promo gift card a Mc/Visa that can be used ANYWHERE or just on Newegg puchases???

Thanks in advance
post #1317 of 8518
Hi,

I haven't bought a receiver in 10 years and am doing my research, trying to catch up. I'm considering the A-1000, 2000, 3000 models, and also the Denon 4311 and Sony ES receivers. I have read (OK, scanned) all 44 pages of this thread and couldn't tell if some of the concerns raised about one of these receivers applied to the others as well. Sounds like they are all great receivers with a few quirks or limitations. In particular:

Do all 3 of these receivers have the forced on-screen volume bar?
Can you only send analog audio to zone 2 on all 3 of them?
Do they all have the same weak FM tuner?

If anyone knows whether the Denon or Sony ES receivers have the same issues I'd appreciate that knowledge as well.

Thanks,
BS
post #1318 of 8518
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Originally Posted by Banana Slug View Post

Hi,

I haven't bought a receiver in 10 years and am doing my research, trying to catch up. I'm considering the A-1000, 2000, 3000 models, and also the Denon 4311 and Sony ES receivers. I have read (OK, scanned) all 44 pages of this thread and couldn't tell if some of the concerns raised about one of these receivers applied to the others as well. Sounds like they are all great receivers with a few quirks or limitations. In particular:

Do all 3 of these receivers have the forced on-screen volume bar?
Can you only send analog audio to zone 2 on all 3 of them?
Do they all have the same weak FM tuner?

Thanks,
BS

I have the RX A2000 for a week now and am enjoying the receiver. The on screen volume bar only lasts a few seconds; I am not bothered by it though it would be nice if you could turn it off. The FM is very limited however the receivers make up for it in the net radio and access to digital music on your computer. Here in Canada you can connect to the cable and access the FM that way as well.

I have a zone 2 set up and am able to listen to audio from all modes except the multidirect from my Oppo. Not a huge limitation but something to consider.

Hope that this helps.

Cat
post #1319 of 8518
Can you listen to iPod through zone 2?

Thanks,
BS
post #1320 of 8518
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Originally Posted by HD-FANATIC View Post

Looking to replace my DSP A-1 has been a great receiver and workhorse with absolutely no problems!!!

Can any of the 3000 owners confirm that the 2 big "knobs" are made of metal versus plastic???

The Newegg promo gift card a Mc/Visa that can be used ANYWHERE or just on Newegg puchases???

Thanks in advance

don't know about the knobs (yet) but the promo gift card is only good for Newegg purchases (and expires after one year).
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