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post #3001 of 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by bustamelon View Post
My RX-A2000 refuses to update the firmware!
Tried both USB and Net, following PDF instructions very carefully. When I get to the last step, pushing the INFO button, the unit just powers off instantly. Tried several times, giving it 10-15 minutes after each try, it never does anything. Just stays off. Thankfully, nothing's is hosed or brick or broken -- it just won't update. Anybody have any ideas or insight?

Current ver is 2.07, trying to up it to 3.15

** edit:
got it finally.... after trying about 8 times. who knows.

Your lucky. I had my RX-A1000 not even 10 hours old and I updated to 2.05 via the Net and got a System Error which blew-out 2 digital boards. Took 6 weeks to get it back.


JohnnyJT
South Philly
post #3002 of 8518
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Originally Posted by johnnyjt View Post
Your lucky. I had my RX-A1000 not even 10 hours old and I updated to 2.05 via the Net and got a System Error which blew-out 2 digital boards. Took 6 weeks to get it back.


JohnnyJT
South Philly

I got the 2.05 installed on mine and it did not blew up. You must have gotten a bad receiver.
post #3003 of 8518
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Originally Posted by metroke View Post
Hi there

I am not a good geek on computers and even then english talking. Can you explain to me what you mean by Did you dup the TV onto the computer monitor instead of the monitor onto the TV? I am puzzled for what the phrase means.
Thanks for your answer
I mean using the computer monitor as the "main" & duplicating the screen onto the TV where the displays will be a little smaller; my monitor is 1680x1050 but the TV is 1960x1080; the difference in size is not of importance to me.

If you are duplicating the TV onto the monitor, the monitor can handle it BUT some of the stuff displayed will be lost & "beyond" the monitor's screen; don't remember if one can move the monitor screen to see what was beyond the screen; probably can if running linux.

Someone suggested using the TV as an extended display where you can have the native resolution for the monitor & native resolution for the TV. Works if both the TV & computer is in the same room; my desktop is in a different room.

I don't have a high-end graphics card or TV & find that the TV display of 1680x1050 mode is quite adequate for my 37" plasma.
post #3004 of 8518
Anyone here that have owned a Denon and went to a Yamaha? I currently have a Denon 3808ci and thinking of getting another Denon 4311 or the Anniversry model. Looking at the RX-A3000. Just want some opinions from someone who has owned both. Thanks
post #3005 of 8518
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Originally Posted by DougMorgan View Post

This is my understanding of how it works with a modern AMD/ATI card and win7.... if this works differently with Nivdia or under Vista/XP ignore this....

There is no duplicating one to the other. There is one desktop displayed on both monitors at exactly the same size.

Again with an ATI card if you check the resolution it may not be at what you are thinking. Each monitor has certain resolution modes it will support and the card will only chose a mode that is supported by the card AND both monitors and that mode has to be small enough to fit on both screens. This will almost certainly NOT be the optimum setting for either monitor unless they are the same resolution (I.E. both 1920x1080). With LCD/LED type monitors anything other than the native, optimum resolution setting normally looks pretty poor.

Your mileage may vary of course and ignore this if you have other hardware that functions differently......
Doug

Suggest you use the Catalyst 11.2 ver or whatever is available this month.

1) run the Catalyst Control center
2) select desktop management at the left
3) if the TV & AVR are on, you should see an overlayed square at the bottom left of the representation of the display/screen (the large one)
4) placing the arrow on the overlayed squares a popup will say "this desktop is duplicated across 2 displays".
5) there will be 2 icons to represent the monitor & TV & both will have a "1" at the upper left corner
6) placing the arrow at each icon, you will see the same resolution for the TV & monitor
7) doing a rt click on each icon you will see "disable, identify display, extend" for the monitor (default); you will also see "make preferred" for the TV

8) The 1st item in the desktop management is "creating & arranging desktops" & most likely what is displayed when selected
9) if you select the "extend" you will see that the TV is now labeled "2" at the upper left.
10) if you then rt click on the TV you will see "duplicate"
11) Then select the "desktop properties" at the list under the "desktop management" & you will see res & info for the monitor BUT
12) you can then hit the up arrow at the right of the menu bar to select "2 desktop display"
13) in my case, I see the default of 720p, etc under the HDTV; 1000i & 1000p is available to be selected
14) But if you select "basic" in the box, res of 1080p is available under HDTV (probably a bug in not listed 1st time)
15) closing the "basic" list, the 1080p is still available for selection as the res for the TV in extended mode.

Anyway, if it helps, good; if not ignore. I think the nvidia allows a different resolution for the TV & overscans the monitor; at least on the my card that is stored away; but my model doesn't do sound with hdmi & the docs say so.
post #3006 of 8518
so have we figured out how to play video from one HDMI source (AV1 let's say) and audio from one of the Audio sources (Audio 1 optical)?

All I want to do is have the TV on in the background (on ESPN or something) and be able to listen to my music at the same time.

I can't believe there isn't a straightforward answer to this. A work around shouldn't be necessary for something this simple.

Thanks guys.
post #3007 of 8518
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Originally Posted by mhelman View Post

so have we figured out how to play video from one HDMI source (AV1 let's say) and audio from one of the Audio sources (Audio 1 optical)?

All I want to do is have the TV on in the background (on ESPN or something) and be able to listen to my music at the same time.

I can't believe there isn't a straightforward answer to this. A work around shouldn't be necessary for something this simple.

Thanks guys.

If I understood you correctly, you want to have picture from one hdmi and sound from other non-hdmi source (analog or digital).
I'm doing it that way:
1. turn on the picture hdmi source first (you will also hear its audio);
2. use audio buttons on remote to select another audio source later;

Did not checked that yet (as going that way not too often) but it should be also possible to use scene buttons to assign particular hdmi-in with another audio-in (digital or analog in this case). For that to work you must make sure desired audio-in is assigned to that video input. You can set up another scene for that same video (hdmi-in) but with its hdmi audio in this case. Then you will have the choice via scene to either see and hear one hdmi source or see it and listen to analog/digital sound same time.
post #3008 of 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by metroke View Post
I got the 2.05 installed on mine and it did not blew up. You must have gotten a bad receiver.
Yes that's very possible. Everything was working before net upgrade.
I upgraded 315 last night via USB, went perfectly.
I still have HD-Radio reception problem on 2 local HD channels.
Which I get perfectly on my other HD-Radios I have.
Also not too crazy about having Pandora and Napster I really don't
know much about.

JohnnyJT
South Philly
post #3009 of 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by citrus View Post
Suggest you use the Catalyst 11.2 ver or whatever is available this month.

1) run the Catalyst Control center
2) select desktop management at the left
3) if the TV & AVR are on, you should see an overlayed square at the bottom left of the representation of the display/screen (the large one)
4) placing the arrow on the overlayed squares a popup will say "this desktop is duplicated across 2 displays".
5) there will be 2 icons to represent the monitor & TV & both will have a "1" at the upper left corner
6) placing the arrow at each icon, you will see the same resolution for the TV & monitor
7) doing a rt click on each icon you will see "disable, identify display, extend" for the monitor (default); you will also see "make preferred" for the TV

8) The 1st item in the desktop management is "creating & arranging desktops" & most likely what is displayed when selected
9) if you select the "extend" you will see that the TV is now labeled "2" at the upper left.
10) if you then rt click on the TV you will see "duplicate"
11) Then select the "desktop properties" at the list under the "desktop management" & you will see res & info for the monitor BUT
12) you can then hit the up arrow at the right of the menu bar to select "2 desktop display"
13) in my case, I see the default of 720p, etc under the HDTV; 1000i & 1000p is available to be selected
14) But if you select "basic" in the box, res of 1080p is available under HDTV (probably a bug in not listed 1st time)
15) closing the "basic" list, the 1080p is still available for selection as the res for the TV in extended mode.

Anyway, if it helps, good; if not ignore. I think the nvidia allows a different resolution for the TV & overscans the monitor; at least on the my card that is stored away; but my model doesn't do sound with hdmi & the docs say so.
I deleted this response since it was redundant with what I already posted and I felt like it was beating a dead horse but at any rate I'm not sure I'm making my meaning clear...

The catalyst software is needless trash and just gets in the way for this -- simply right click on the desktop and select screen resolution from the pop-up menu. All the relevant settings are on this screen. You can remove the catalyst software and leave the ATI/AMD drivers and your system will run perfectly.

There is no duplicating one screen to another --> there is one work space and it can be set one of four ways --> all on one screen or the other, extending across both screens, or one workspace that is "duplicated" at a compromise resolution on both screens.

When you set the workspace to be duplicated on both screens the video card will select one of the modes that it supports that is also supported by BOTH displays. With LCD/LED monitors and TV's the best setting (BY FAR) is always the native resolution but unless both the TV and PC monitor have identical native resolutions this will not be the case and the picture on both screens will usually have diminished quality and will be lower resolution as well. How bad they look of course is a matter of perception but I wouldn't recommend this.

With any of the modes except duplicated -- screen 1, screen 2, or extended, both displays may remain at the optimum resolution. The only case where this will be true in duplicated mode is when both the TV and PC monitor have an identical native resolution. For the original posters troubles switching back and forth from the duplicated mode with dis-similar monitors will likely make matters worse as the PC desktop will be changing resolution each time and icons will likely get shuffled around.
Doug
post #3010 of 8518
i know the ones here that got one of the new yahama advanteage series
got either a 100, 2000 or 3000 but i got a 800.

can anyone help me with this:

i have hdmi from blu ray and hd dvr to yah rec and then from yam rec
to samsun 50 inch plasma. my only problem is when i play dvds they
play but sound only says pcm not dolby digital or dts. i have yet
to rent a blu ray to see what happens.

when i use my hd dvr the sound says dolby digital which is what is
should say.

what do i have to do to fix the problem with the dvd/blu ray only
coming up in pcm sound and not dol dig/dts?

please help

thanks so much

ross in tampa FL
post #3011 of 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROSSINFLORIDA View Post

i know the ones here that got one of the new yahama advanteage series
got either a 100, 2000 or 3000 but i got a 800.

can anyone help me with this:

i have hdmi from blu ray and hd dvr to yah rec and then from yam rec
to samsun 50 inch plasma. my only problem is when i play dvds they
play but sound only says pcm not dolby digital or dts. i have yet
to rent a blu ray to see what happens.

when i use my hd dvr the sound says dolby digital which is what is
should say.

what do i have to do to fix the problem with the dvd/blu ray only
coming up in pcm sound and not dol dig/dts?

please help

thanks so much

ross in tampa FL

Check the settings on your bd/dvd player.
post #3012 of 8518
my blu ray player was never changed. it was working fine with my old
yamaha receiver. it always showed up either dol dig or dts when playing
dvd or blu ray.

is there some setting you have to do when you first setup a new yamaha
advanteage rec to get dol dig or dts sound when playing a dvd/blu ray.

all i get is pcm no matter if i choose 2 speakers or 7 speakers setup
post #3013 of 8518
also where do you go to get the firmware update for fixing problem these rec's have
in picking up very few hd radio channels? i have 800

im here in tampa FL and i can not even pick up the most popular fm radio
stations in hd. they are 97.9 which is known as 98 rock and 93.3 and also
102.5 classic rock does not come in either. they are 3 of the biggest radio
stations here.

thanks again
post #3014 of 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by ROSSINFLORIDA View Post

my blu ray player was never changed. it was working fine with my old
yamaha receiver. it always showed up either dol dig or dts when playing
dvd or blu ray.

is there some setting you have to do when you first setup a new yamaha
advanteage rec to get dol dig or dts sound when playing a dvd/blu ray.

all i get is pcm no matter if i choose 2 speakers or 7 speakers setup

Try the INFO button on your Yamaha remote. Failing that, hit the sur decode button. I think it's basically a display issue -- the receiver should remember your choice on a per-input basis.

The firmware is available on the Yamaha website, under SUPPORT. Download, extract it and copy the BIN file onto a thumb drive. Or does the 800 not have a USB jack?
post #3015 of 8518
i found firmware update for rx-a800 yamaha advanteage receiver but when i
d/l it i get nothing but a 12.3 kb file

it says its 3.3 mb file

what gives?

what am i doing wrong here?

thanks
post #3016 of 8518
ill try it

i did just try to d/l the firmware update but for some reason
i dont get the 3.3 mb file.

it only d/l 12.3 kb file

im cursed lol
post #3017 of 8518
hmmm, the A2000 firmware is 22 MB! def something wrong there.
*** edit -- nevermind, I just checked the 800 download page. version 2.05 is only 3.77MB, you're right.

If you didn't already, I would FIRST sign in to their site -- I found the popup login form that comes up when you try to download refuses to work. Had to log in to the site overall, then try the download again.

https://www.yamaha.com/ussub/yec/Eas...?regmode=login

then

http://download.yamaha.com/top/?site...om&language=en


*** edit #2 --
I just tried it. There is no firmware there -- what is described as a link to the firmware file turns out to be a PDF. That ain't gonna do you any good.
post #3018 of 8518
im cursed

my blu ray player wont let me get into option to change hdmi from pcm to dol dig/dts

wtf
post #3019 of 8518
i signed in then hit d/l but it keeps d/l it but it says 12.7 kb file
post #3020 of 8518
Take disc out of bd player.
Press setup.
Hdmi audio out should be set to bitstream.
post #3021 of 8518
This should be done in the setup menu of the BD player. The Yamaha cannot change what the player sends to it.
post #3022 of 8518
what would i do w/out you all

wow
post #3023 of 8518
now i just need to win the lottery to get an awesome ht system like you all

for now will settle for yamaha advanteage 800 new polk center csII i think

fronts are my old kick azz ksf 8.5 klipsch speakers

sub is old kick azz klipsch but it doesnt work half the time.
i hit the reset button and it works every now and then. would a new fuse
work or is it probably done? its not a big deal b/c i got a great deal on a new
klipsch sub at new egg

rear speakers are new polk 40s

gave my 17 year old nephew my old yamaha rec, new polk 50s for front and my
old smaller klipsch center. i stupidly let my old gf use my older awesome klipsch
center along with some other good av rec and speakers which i will never get
back.

lesson learned huh lol
post #3024 of 8518
can anyone see if they can get the firmware update for the 800 to work for them?

i d/l it but the file is not there. it just shows a 12.3 kb file that must be the text
of it.

if you can get it can you email me it ROSSINFL@HOTMAIL.COM so i can put it on
a usb hd to install it on my 800 receiver

thanks a lot
post #3025 of 8518
Don't know what Klipsch sub you got but if youre patient and ordering from egg, I suggest trying getting the 505 Polk unit when it is on sale. I got my first one on a shell shocker and was very impressed for the money. Added that to a PSW-110 I got at BB for 120 and it blew it away. Got another 505 on another shocker deal because I liked it so much for performance and value. Running all three now.

As for your FW update, my 867 did that automatically via the net connection. Let me see what I can do for you though do not hold your breath. That is not a small file and therefore best if you can download it. Let me see because I do not like attachments that large.
post #3026 of 8518
Keep trying. I just downloaded the zip file that says it is 10.8 MB zipped. Do it and follow the instructions. You do not need me to send it to you. Just follow instructions and unzip and burn the wave file onto your CD-R/RW as an audio disc and this is your update disc. The wave file looks to be 9,622kb. Good luck. Just follow instruction. Aventage eh? I prefer the 867 push the buttons and walk away. Did it by itself.

Sorry about the girlfriend. Succubus?
post #3027 of 8518
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

If you're buying AVRs looking for power output, you're barking up the wrong tree. All these models have pre-outs, get an amp.

Probably not. I just need a bit more to satisfy my needs. Since I do not see it here I may well return the 867 and get a Onkyo 1008. That unit ought to have that extra juice I need and at a good price too. Too bad, I really like this first Yamaha, just shortwinded compared to my older Pioneer. Thanks for the input.

BTW, I love the ease of use on the Yamaha, but I also love my THX Cinema settings and the extra power on hand. These items, especially the power drives me. I could be happy with the 867 but it is underpowered for me, I can feel it. Not sure I want to shell out the extra for the equivalant Yamaha since nobody has convinced me otherwise in the Aventage series.

No, I am not going for separate amps. This obviates the need for a competant AVR. I know about the db wattage relationship, just need a bit more and done. That way I can sell my Pioneer 23 to somone who can enjoy it because it is a great unit if you have no 1.4 needs. I mean that 23 is really a good unit. Very hard to beat but no 1.4 and pass through. Some folks do not care about that. I do. The 867 really spoiled me there. HDMI, what a sham. The Pio 23 can do everything the 867 can and more except pass 1.4 and pass through. It is not even that old, what a ripoff if you ask me. No firmware is going to fix that. Thanks Micro$oft and all the rest responsible. Silly isn't it? I know but what can you do? I am all ears.
post #3028 of 8518
i was always told any receiver that did anything over 60-65 watts per
channel was enough for anything. but i guess its diff now with true
dolby digital and true dts?

im still in a daze as far as why these big powered new receivers have to
have the volume turned way up to start getting any volume out of them.

what gives?

all i want is a good new receiver thats gonna last a long time and have
hd radio built in, real good sound from all speakers, easy to change stuff
on the on screen display. the new advanteage series say most of the new
stuff on them is for making them last a long time. my last yamaha receiver
i got around 12 or so years ago is still going strong. im passing it on to my
17 year old nephew so we can play rock band 3 on it and watch dvds and
hopefully blu ray movies once his dad gets a hdtv.
post #3029 of 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes2cents View Post

HDMI, what a sham. The Pio 23 can do everything the 867 can and more except pass 1.4 and pass through. It is not even that old, what a ripoff if you ask me. No firmware is going to fix that. Thanks Micro$oft and all the rest responsible. Silly isn't it? I know but what can you do? I am all ears.

I think it's more thanks to Sony & other movie giants than MS this time around,
I agree though - every one of us that's bought a new receiver (or DVD & TV) in the last few years has been well & truly ripped off with this HDMI rubbish - thanks NOT!
post #3030 of 8518
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikes2cents View Post

Probably not. I just need a bit more to satisfy my needs. Since I do not see it here I may well return the 867 and get a Onkyo 1008. That unit ought to have that extra juice I need and at a good price too. Too bad, I really like this first Yamaha, just shortwinded compared to my older Pioneer. Thanks for the input.

BTW, I love the ease of use on the Yamaha, but I also love my THX Cinema settings and the extra power on hand. These items, especially the power drives me. I could be happy with the 867 but it is underpowered for me, I can feel it. Not sure I want to shell out the extra for the equivalant Yamaha since nobody has convinced me otherwise in the Aventage series.

No, I am not going for separate amps. This obviates the need for a competant AVR. I know about the db wattage relationship, just need a bit more and done. That way I can sell my Pioneer 23 to somone who can enjoy it because it is a great unit if you have no 1.4 needs. I mean that 23 is really a good unit. Very hard to beat but no 1.4 and pass through. Some folks do not care about that. I do. The 867 really spoiled me there. HDMI, what a sham. The Pio 23 can do everything the 867 can and more except pass 1.4 and pass through. It is not even that old, what a ripoff if you ask me. No firmware is going to fix that. Thanks Micro$oft and all the rest responsible. Silly isn't it? I know but what can you do? I am all ears.

Really, almost no AVR is as competant as a seperate amp.
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