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post #5011 of 8515
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

Update on my previous post:

I can connect both my laptops and desktop to my TV directly via HDMI, but still not through the RXA3000.

Any help is greatly appreciated. I don't want to return it.

Make sure you're using a resolution that the RX-A3000 supports. You can also try lowering the resolution.
post #5012 of 8515
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

Make sure you're using a resolution that the RX-A3000 supports. You can also try lowering the resolution.

Yeah, I'm using 1080p. I've also tried other resolutions. No dice.
post #5013 of 8515
Need help hooking up my rx-a2000...

I have a comcast DVR box (with HDMI or component out) and I want to be able to watch the content on either of 2 tvs ..

one tv has HDMI, but the other only has component.

can I run component in to the receiver, and component out to 1 tv, and hdmi out to the other?

Any help would be appreciated!
post #5014 of 8515
Forgive me if this is somewhere in here.. I DID search for quite a while.. but can anybody tell me what the A1010 offers over the A1000? The Yammy product comparison charts don't reveal a whole lot other than a 5wpc difference between the two. Thx.
post #5015 of 8515
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Originally Posted by jephdood View Post

Forgive me if this is somewhere in here.. I DID search for quite a while.. but can anybody tell me what the A1010 offers over the A1000? The Yammy product comparison charts don't reveal a whole lot other than a 5wpc difference between the two. Thx.

For the A1010 and A1000, I think the only real difference is the addition of iOS device playback over the front USB port and you can turn off the volume display on the video. Also, a little heavier. "Advanced Graphical User Interface with Status" vs just "Graphical User Interface". You can download the manual from the Yamaha website, so you can look to see if you find any other differences there (Go to the "Support" tab).
post #5016 of 8515
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Originally Posted by rekoh View Post
Need help hooking up my rx-a2000...

I have a comcast DVR box (with HDMI or component out) and I want to be able to watch the content on either of 2 tvs ..

one tv has HDMI, but the other only has component.

can I run component in to the receiver, and component out to 1 tv, and hdmi out to the other?

Any help would be appreciated!
Yes, but if you want to watch both at the same time they will both need to be connected to the same input on the AVR. Depending on your setup, you may wish to bypass the AVR with one or the other.
post #5017 of 8515
Does anyone know where I can pick up an a2000 for <$900? I missed out on the newegg deal last weekend.

Thanks.
post #5018 of 8515
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Originally Posted by 12floz View Post
Does anyone know where I can pick up an a2000 for <$900? I missed out on the newegg deal last weekend.
Keep a close eye on newegg. It'll come back as they still have some in stock. You may have to be quick on the draw as they could go fast once the coupon code hits (though I doubt it will be THAT fast - it IS a $900 receiver after all.)

It might even be a bit lower than $900. The rx-a1000 is once again on and it's $50 lower than last time it was on special.
post #5019 of 8515
The A1000 is on sale again. http://slickdeals.net/forums/showthread.php?t=3219902

It's now $779.99 plus $180 off w/ promo code EMCKBJA27, ends 8/25.
post #5020 of 8515
Newegg is quickly becoming my retailer of choice for discounts on great AV gear. Even better than Magnolia clearance!
post #5021 of 8515
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Originally Posted by Squishy Tia View Post

Those video adjustments are going to be a godsend if you're stuck with SD content (like I am since my grandparents still use a console TV and refuse to upgrade unless their TV dies (it's a Zenith from the early 90s - it is likely to outlive my grandparents).



And those DSD1796s have very good D/A reproduction. In fact I've only heard one device that actually beats them in sound quality, and oddly enough that's my Samsung Epic 4G smartphone. The buggers made that thing to rival the iPhone 4/iPod Touch and it shows, at least for headphone output, but the results there may be because the headphone jack on the A3000 just doesn't put out much power. For speaker/pre-out you will appreciate what the 3000 can offer. And you'll want the 3000 if you listen to anything from a DSD source (SACD/MD player), since only the DSD DACs can convert the PCM directly from those sources instead of having the sources convert to analog before sending audio to the AVR.

I poked my head into this thread after seeing Newegg post a special today on the A1000 and it got me thinking about the amp upgrade I've been pondering for a few years now.

I've got an MC7100 driving my fronts that I want to keep so the pre-out is important to me.... it's wasn't immediately clear what the 3000 offered over the 1000 for this.

Also, the comment on the DAC's has me thinking a bit. Right now my sources are the following:
  • SqueezeBox (I rip everything to FLAC)
  • DirectTV DVR
  • LG Blu Ray (may swap out soon)
  • A handful of ripped movies on my window's machine
It's *possible* we would get a game console at some point. Right now everything runs through RCA cables but all the devices support optical (or sound via HDMI).

Is there anything above that would argue for the 3000? Sound/Picture quality are important (as is ease of use for the wife and kid) but price vs. performance is also an important consideration (again for the wife :-) )
post #5022 of 8515
If it helps at all, the RX-A3000 seems incapable of passing 1080p from a computer to a display. I've been trying every solution under the sun for the past couple weeks. I love the receiver, but this could be a deal breaker. I'm going to attempt the "HDMI switch" work around before completely giving up hope though.
post #5023 of 8515
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

If it helps at all, the RX-A3000 seems incapable of passing 1080p from a computer to a display. I've been trying every solution under the sun for the past couple weeks. I love the receiver, but this could be a deal breaker. I'm going to attempt the "HDMI switch" work around before completely giving up hope though.

Is this because of HDCP issues?
post #5024 of 8515
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

If it helps at all, the RX-A3000 seems incapable of passing 1080p from a computer to a display. I've been trying every solution under the sun for the past couple weeks. I love the receiver, but this could be a deal breaker. I'm going to attempt the "HDMI switch" work around before completely giving up hope though.

Nick,

I'm going to be doing the same thing, except that I'm using a nVidia GT 430. I'm interested to know if you get this working. Have you tried messing with the refresh rates?

Just to be sure, you've set your resolution to 1920x1080, correct? Have you tried 24, 50, and 60 Hz refresh rates?

EDIT: I looked in the manual for the A2000, it states the following:
*This unit is not compatible with HDCP-incompatible HDMI or DVI components.
*This unit is compatible with the video signals of the following resolutions:
– 480i/60 Hz
– 576i/50 Hz
– 480p/60 Hz
– 576p/50 Hz
– 720p/60 Hz, 50 Hz
– 1080i/60 Hz, 50 Hz
– 1080p/60 Hz, 50 Hz, 24 Hz

So, my first question is about the GT 320M video card: Is it HDCP compatible? If so, do you have the latest video drivers installed?

Then, as I asked above, what refresh rate are you using? The receiver can only handle the refresh rates listed above.

Third, make sure your resolution is set to exactly the correct resolution for 480p, 720p, 1080i, or 1080p.
post #5025 of 8515
Good to note that just because a card is called "HDCP compatible" doesn't mean it will play nice. Compatible is not the same as "compliant". The card has to handshake as HDCP compliant or you get black screen. No secret handshake = no video.

TVs are designed to play nice with sources that do not fully implement HDCP, AVRs have to say "no". Especially AVRs with 2 HDMI outputs.
post #5026 of 8515
I'm not sure why an AV receiver would have to "say no" if the source HDMI device doesn't use HDCP copy protection, which a PC normally wouldn't unless playing a copy protected BluRay disc.

I'd be very suprised if nick_danger's problem had anything to do with HDCP.
post #5027 of 8515
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

I'm not sure why an AV receiver would have to "say no" if the source HDMI device doesn't use HDCP copy protection, which a PC normally wouldn't unless playing a copy protected BluRay disc.

I'd be very suprised if nick_danger's problem had anything to do with HDCP.

I wouldn't be surprised at all, especially since the manual specifically states that the receiver will not work with devices that don't support HDCP.

And a video card can be HDCP compliant, but the DRIVERS may not be. That's why I asked if Nick has the most current nVidia drivers for his display adapter. I use Windows 7 Media Center with a CableCARD tuner, so HDCP compliance is a must-have... or copy-protected cable shows will not play.

I know that the GT 320 card is HDCP-compliant, but Nick has the GT 320M (I assume the "M" is for "Mobile"), and I didn't find info about that display adapter on nVidia's website that specifically stated that it was HDCP-compliant.

If the 320M is HDCP-compliant, then I suggest that Nick should try downloading the most current drivers directly from nVidia (not from Microsoft nor from his laptop's manufacturer). Then, try making sure that the resolution and refresh rates are one of the ones listed in the receiver's manual.

If these suggestions don't work, then I don't know what to suggest. I would like to hear back from Nick to see if these changes worked... because I would be in the same boat as he is if they don't work.
post #5028 of 8515
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

I wouldn't be surprised at all, especially since the manual specifically states that the receiver will not work with devices that don't support HDCP.

Since all video cards (and drivers...) have supported HDCP for years now, I doubt its the problem.
post #5029 of 8515
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

Newegg is quickly becoming my retailer of choice for discounts on great AV gear. Even better than Magnolia clearance!

LOL....well I have done pretty well at Magnolia clearance
But Newegg does have more consistent deals and they are more accessible



Warren
post #5030 of 8515
Is there a way to make the Rx-a2000 play 5.1 sound formats in the 7.2 mode?


Thanks,
post #5031 of 8515
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Originally Posted by goldielox View Post

Is there a way to make the Rx-a2000 play 5.1 sound formats in the 7.2 mode?


Thanks,

Dolby Pro Logic 2

or one of the other DSP modes that the unit has...I would think


Warren
post #5032 of 8515
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Originally Posted by goldielox View Post

Is there a way to make the Rx-a2000 play 5.1 sound formats in the 7.2 mode?
Thanks,

Extended Surround set for Dolby Pro Logic IIx
post #5033 of 8515
All my graphics cards are using the latest drivers, all are compliant. I've tried some older drivers too. I can get 720p @60Hz and 1080i @29,30, but no 1080p of any refresh rate of any kind. I accessed the advanced setup of the Yamaha, and turned off monitor check (display check?) and that didn't help. I picked up a $100 Rocketfish HDMI splitter to test as some people have had success that way. Again no solution.

It's sad to think that this premium hardware can't do this simple task. It's not the computers, not the graphics cards, not the drivers, not the TV, not the cables...

Even funnier, I selected the TV as my audio source in Windows 7 and played music while messing around. When outputting 1080p, the screen would go black and no sound would play, but as soon as I used the on-screen menu button on the Yamaha remote, I would get music over the TV speakers! I don't think that means anything, but clearly A connection is being made, but the Yamaha is just stubborn.

A better question may be "Has anyone successfully passed a 1080p signal through this receiver? "
post #5034 of 8515
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post
I can get 720p @60Hz and 1080i @29,30, but no 1080p of any refresh rate of any kind.
This sounds like it could be a cable problem then. Make sure you're using High Speed HDMI cables.

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A better question may be "Has anyone successfully passed a 1080p signal through this receiver? "
Given that's a common resolution used by Blu-Ray players, I'd say the answer is yes.
post #5035 of 8515
I got a yamaha rx-a2000 two weeks ago and when setting it up using ypao calibration I found out that the sub was very low which I could not understand this is my third receiver so I;m not new to auto calibration well after about 20 times still low sub output so I had to use my radio shack meter to get the right sub level. Well I found out all you have to do is use all 8 positions and what do you know I got bass. If after calibration it sets you speakers to large make them small at 80hz ps. when you calibrate the 8 positions form a "U" shape and you will get the best envlope sound. try it and let me know if it works for you.
post #5036 of 8515
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post
I can get 720p @60Hz and 1080i @29,30, but no 1080p of any refresh rate of any kind.
It's sad to think that this premium hardware can't do this simple task. It's not the computers, not the graphics cards, not the drivers, not the TV, not the cables... "
The OM (page 168) states that the unit is compatible with 1080i, 50Hz and 60Hz. Interesting that yours is compatible with 29 and 30 Hz.
post #5037 of 8515
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post
All my graphics cards are using the latest drivers, all are compliant. I've tried some older drivers too. I can get 720p @60Hz and 1080i @29,30, but no 1080p of any refresh rate of any kind. I accessed the advanced setup of the Yamaha, and turned off monitor check (display check?) and that didn't help. I picked up a $100 Rocketfish HDMI splitter to test as some people have had success that way. Again no solution.

It's sad to think that this premium hardware can't do this simple task. It's not the computers, not the graphics cards, not the drivers, not the TV, not the cables...

Even funnier, I selected the TV as my audio source in Windows 7 and played music while messing around. When outputting 1080p, the screen would go black and no sound would play, but as soon as I used the on-screen menu button on the Yamaha remote, I would get music over the TV speakers! I don't think that means anything, but clearly A connection is being made, but the Yamaha is just stubborn.

A better question may be "Has anyone successfully passed a 1080p signal through this receiver? "
Nick,

How long are your HDMI cables? Please provide the length of both the cable going between the PC and the receiver, and also the cable going between the receiver and the TV.
post #5038 of 8515
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Originally Posted by cbhpi View Post
The OM (page 168) states that the unit is compatible with 1080i, 50Hz and 60Hz. Interesting that yours is compatible with 29 and 30 Hz.
He presumably gave the frame rate that his video card driver's settings used rather than a field rate as given in the manual. Even if 1080i at a field rate of 30Hz did work, it would look pretty awful.

Note also that 59Hz (or 29Hz) is sometimes used as a shorthand for the NTSC standard refresh rate of approximately 59.94Hz (29.97Hz), to distiguish it from a rate thats exactly 60Hz. The manual doesn't bother to make this distinction.
post #5039 of 8515
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

He presumably gave the frame rate that his video card driver's settings used rather than a field rate as given in the manual. Even if 1080i at a field rate of 30Hz did work, it would look pretty awful.

Note also that 59Hz (or 29Hz) is sometimes used as a shorthand for the NTSC standard refresh rate of approximately 59.94Hz (29.97Hz), to distiguish it from a rate thats exactly 60Hz. The manual doesn't bother to make this distinction.

Got it. As far as troubleshooting goes, though, shouldn't he connect a stand-alone blu-ray player to the AVR and test at 1080p before he blames the AVR? (Just trying to improve my troubleshooting skills.)
post #5040 of 8515
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

If it helps at all, the RX-A3000 seems incapable of passing 1080p from a computer to a display. I've been trying every solution under the sun for the past couple weeks. I love the receiver, but this could be a deal breaker. I'm going to attempt the "HDMI switch" work around before completely giving up hope though.

Have you tried a different HDMI cable? That is the first thing you should look at when you are trying to trouble shoot a problem with an HDMI connection.
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