"Official" Yamaha RX-A1000/RX-A2000/RX-A3000 thread - Page 226

Go for it. Look at it this way. If you eventually get your AVR delivered great. But if you don't, and you wind up paying, for example, $200 more. It's the same as if he stole $200 from you on top of the product he stole from the shipper. Plus the aggravation your going through.

Picked up the A3000 today from the Newegg deal. Was more than I intended to spend originally but seems more than worth it for the features at this price. Hopefully it arrives later this week!

Congrats! You'll not be disappointed with this unit. Properly configured, its a beast.

chap

I agree the features on the cdn site do look right, I never really pd attention to .ca or .com (my bad) I read reviews and then verified HDradio at HDradio's website and I never saw a mention anywhere on any review that the feature was deleted from CDN models. I do get HDradio picked up on my alpine HU in my truck about 4 stations in NY and it makes the locals sound better when in Hdradio mode. I also have an HD antenna in my attic that I use for OTA signals which I assumed would help to pick up those stations as close as I could, I get about 6 ota hd stations through mythtv currently.
Another point about deleting features is the price less in Canada? Not that I can find by comparing. I think it comes down to reviewers and adverts should pay closer to attention to the availabilty (lack of) the features for an item made for North America but do not function the same for Canada and the US and I do realize there is a us and cdn manual for the units.

Has anyone actually got FLAC decoding on one of their units. Where it is actually FLAC in the yamaha and not converted to PCM? I loaded a few flac encoded songs on to a flash drive and checked it out and it still is saying pcm on the display or in the info section of the GUI (setup). XBMC does decode FLAC anyhow and passes it to the yamaha in pcm; but if the feature is in the 2010 I would like to pass-through and have it decoded in the rcvr.

rgds,

Dave

not really

The denon 5308 would be the clear exception to the "generation"

as for the receivers you mentioned..as for flagships..its not what it used to be
and the far lower prices and "made in Malaysia " labels reflect that

what overheating issues/failures are you talking about with the 805/875?

That really can't be substantiated..because the newer Onkyo's with less power seem to be on par with the same reliability.....look at the xx07 threads

...the Z11 is a fossil?..thats interesting if all HDMI 1.3 are now considered fossils?
The Z11 has some serious performance....obnoxious loud fans?

Seriously..all one has to do ..if they want 3D capability is to buy one of the several Blu ray players with dual HDMI outputs
I have a flagship Pioneer VSX47TX( 63#) from circa 2003...its fans are minimal and its build quality better than anything else..receiver wise..I currently own
I do enjoy its musicality, weight and all the copper plating
it handles some 4ohn speakers I have much better than any other receiver I have owned
For reference..I have the Yamaha A3000..Pioneer Sc37 and Onkyo 5009 in my home currently

..as far as what one "needs"...I am not sure anyone needs a Yamaha A3000...if that is your litmus test
There are lot less expensive options out there that will fulfill the same functions
Its frankly more what one wants

the Denon 5308 is the only flagship receiver that remains in today's world...in the mass produced sector

if offers performance that is on par with some separate amps...though you do have to buy the upgrade to get HDMI 1.4 and the latest version of Audessey..XT32

If you think the performance of those receivers are fossils...then I assume you clearly dont think the performance of separate amp/preamp combos is acceptable?

I say that because the only way you can get that today...is separates


Warren

You really don't know if that is the case....and I am not sure there is misrepresentation
The test numbers are the test numbers...
I would say that the power supply was not large enough and would not allow the receiver to bench more than that safely for periods of time without damaging the unit

However....you understand both
you and I are making assumptions

But on another note
Its rather interesting how the "litmus" test for separate amps is somehow extremely different from AVR's now

For separate amps...the ACD driven test is the holy grail

I like my A3000...as I said before it actually sounds more finessed than the 875
The 875 was far more dynamic..to my ears
For the bookshelves I use..the A3000 was the way to go
If I was using full range towers it would have been the 875

In regard to meaningless tests with protection circuitry
really?

Its a multichannel unit....??
I cant imagine that one would not be interested in knowing what it would do while driving multichannel
At what point does it become ridiculous...when they post 1 channel driven?

Would you consider a separate stereo amp that advertised 150 watts per channels..and only benched 65 watts 2 channels driven?

in the real world..like you said...is that realistic?

Warren

Warren as someone who's not crazy into Home Theater your posts are really distracting from this thread and not helpful. You stated how you felt in the first misrepresented post about the A3000. No need to continue beating a dead horse. If you want to wage a war against Yamaha then please do it in another thread. This is a thread for owners looking for advice about YAMAHA Aventage line of receivers. Since your so in love with Onkyo's please go post about there greatness in their respected thread, I'm tired of wading though your BS to learn about a receiver. I've held back posting this as it is adding to the BS but your clearly not going to stop, here is a hint, we like these receivers, we spent our hard earned money on them, your not going to change that.

FLAC files, like any audio format, need to be converted into PCM in order to be played. PCM and FLAC are both lossless formats so there's absolutely no quality difference between the two. The difference is that PCM is raw uncompressed digital audio while FLAC is a compressed version of the same. Whether your FLAC files are decoded by your receiver or XMBC, the result is the exact same PCM samples being sent the to receiver's digital-to-analogue converters (DACs) and exactly the same output from your speakers.

I did this exact upgrade about four months ago. The latest Ypao gave a modest improvement in my room. Nothing dramatic, but a slight improvement. No real improvement to 2d video. "Features" improvements that I like include 7 hdmi inputs versus 3, component video and digital audio out to my video matrix, OSD over hdmi, 3d video capability (waiting on new tv to use), and ip control capability. For the price difference, I cant see the 3010 being worth it unless you need 9.2 or 11.2 in the short term.

Beating what dead horse,what war...and what BS?
I am merely stating the facts and replying to posts from others

Actually a lot of folks read these threads BEFORE they make a decision on what to buy
I assume you did as well?

I didn't say I was in love with anything..you are really stretching your assumptions
I am merely stating the specs and facts
If anything I have found over the years that nothing is perfect...you just buy the unit(s) that best fit your needs that is available at that time

I like the A3000...you have seen where I have posted that numerous times..right?
If you go very far back , in this thread you will even see where I posted that I think its a more impressive unit than the Yamaha Z7 is...which I also own

To that point...you will also see where I posted the same thing in the Z7 forum ...doing an A/B test with it and the A3000


Being an avid A/V enthusiast, I have changed units..AVR's anyway, a myriad of times over the past 5-6 years.My main HT room is and will likely always be a separates based system and has remained fairly consistent

I am not trying to change anyone's mind from buying this receiver..I have stated numerous times the strong points..IMO..based on a comparison of other units I had at the same time in my home

I am not sure why you make that assumption?

here is a hint to you

would that really make sense since I bought( and use daily) an A3000 myself?....


Warren

My flac's are all encoded at 96K converted from wav files that took forever, in xbmc they are sent out via hdmi in pcm at 48/16. SO when I read the reviews and the manuals on the yamaha that said it would decode flac up to 96K I was pumped.

pg 75 in the CDN manual states this unit is compatible with sampling frequency of up to 96K for WAV and FLAC files, and 48K for other files. This unit supports playback of WAV (PCM Format only), mp3, wma, mpeg-4, aac and FLAC files.

By that statement I am assuming that only WAV files are seen as PCM and FLAC encoded files should be seen as FLAC. The FLAC files I tested on USB flash are 96/24k .FLAC files and play as such on my normal computer and on the yamaha they are seen as pcm at 48K when playing off the USB flash drive, when I was assuming to see FLAC 96K input on the info screen.

rgds,

Dave

That would be a problem with XMBC and/or the device you're running it on. There's no reason why it would be need to be downsampled before being sent to the receiver.

Are you guys able to update over network? I need to update but pushing straight isn't bringing up usb or network. What am I missing here?

Im trying to decide if my better surround speakers should be front presence speakers or used as the surrounds. Could someone please tell me which channel sees more action? Im concerned purely for blu rays. Im preemptively setting up the speakers and they use different mounts. I was hoping to avoid having to move them if I got it backwards. (Which is why just listing for myself would be hard) I got all the speakers today and wanted to have it ready when the A3000 shows up on Monday. Im planning on using the dialog lift feature if this makes a difference. Thanks for your guys help.

See the section of the OM titled "Displaying/Setting the Advanced Setup Menu."

That's what I was going by. Pushing straight on the receiver to bring up network or usb but its not doing anything.

No, you're going by the instructions under "Firmware Update", which are only the final steps you need to follow. You need to go back in the manual to where the these instructions actually begin under "Displaying/Setting the Advanced Setup Menu" and start following the instructions from there.

Thanks will check that when I get back.

The Yamaha presence channels do no require a large speaker. And your side surrounds will have a great deal of use when considering either 5 or 7 channel sources - much more than the presence channels. As for the dialog lift function, I utilize it on my Z11 / 11.2 system and it definitely works well.
In my humble opinion, the presence channels would not come first. Set up a 5 or 7 channel room then either upgrade speakers and move them to the presence channels or purchase specifically for them etc

Cheers

Anyone using the Yamaha YDS-12 iPod dock along with the Yamaha iPhone/ iPad app? What I want to know is, does the app display playlists, cover art, etc....? I have an RX-A2010 if that info is needed.

Thanks for the recommendations.

This reply is to a member that test different AVR's, amps, and other equipment for a very reliable and reputable website. Have you ever read anything from the website "Secrets of Home Theater". If not go to the site and read the many reviews and test reports from very knowledgeable people. All well respected and known. My first go to for reviews and test reports. He knows what he's speaking of.

Received my RX-A3000. Setup was straight forward. The on-screen volume display is bugging me a LOT though I considered returning the unit because of this, but newegg has a 15% restrocking fee so I'll probably just live with it. I'm pretty disappointed I can't disable it though Excitement ruined.

Funny, I was just thinking the same thing today - I'd like to turn off the on-screen volume display too on my A-2000

The on-screen volume display is bugging me a LOT though I considered returning the unit because of this, but newegg has a 15% restrocking fee so I'll probably just live with it. I'm pretty disappointed I can't disable it though Excitement ruined

I have been looking at the 3000. I thought I read that you can turn off the OSD of the volume? Do you have the latest firmware updates?

I have been carefully reviewing the 3010 too. I am on the fence deciding if I should wait for the 3010 to start to fall in price, or pull the trigger on the great discounts currently on the 3000. During movies I often adjust the volume levels. I would not want a big volume display showing up.

I do know they have an improved the OSD with the 3010. I don't understand why they will not correct many of these issues with a firmware update.

The Denon 5308 is not this generation, it's last generation. Same generation as the Z11.


I had an 805 which worked most of the time although it did auto-shutoff if room temperatures reached above 87-88F (sat in an open space).

Read the 805 thread if you want to look at complaints...



Do you own a Z11?

Yes, the first thing I did when I got the unit was upgrade it to the newest firmware (3.20). I've been playing with it some more and have found other issues such as the audio select won't remember Coax after power off, it always switches back to Auto which defaults to HDMI, which I don't want. These are little things but they are going to be things that bug me every day. I'm going to give it the weekend, but if I still feel bad about it I'll probably return it despite the huge restocking fee + shipping Yamaha Advantage failing to live up to its hype for me.

The volume display is a small bar at the bottom of the screen and goes away after 2 seconds. I actually like seeing the volume setting but even if I didn't I don't think it would be worth paying a huge difference for the 3010 just not to see it.

That should be warranty work, no? Maybe that's how to avoid the fees for returning.

I do. And you couldn't pry it away from me..

I wouldn't call the fans obnoxious.

Matter of fact, they never come on. The only time I have had them on was when I manually selected them. If under heavy load, hot enough to trip the fans,, I would comment that fan noise would be the last thing I would be hearing.... :-)

Larger fans would always be better given less rpm to move the same cfm = quieter..

Cheers