"Official" Yamaha RX-A1000/RX-A2000/RX-A3000 thread - Page 24

kriktsemaj99,

It is quite possible that the DAC implementation in his transport is indeed better or far superior as he stated than the implementation in this AVR regardless of the room calibration, bass management and equalization. I have an ICBM and though presently not in use; there isn't an AVR that I used or am aware of below $3,000, with the functionality of the ICBM and I don't doubt that a properly setup analog stage and an ICBM may sound better than these AVRs is his setup.

I agree that one reason many BD players still have analog outputs is because some users still don't have receivers with HDMI inputs, but another reason is that there are still transports out there with better DAC implementations than present AVRs.


Willie


Eric_Connelly,

I own an 83SE also and I will definitely be using the analogs for playback of SACDs and DVD-As and HDMI for movies. Sorry for the off topic. Where are those A3000 owners. I need to make a decision on an AVR.


Willie

For me "better" = "superior", not "far superior". It probably wasn't the original intention, but "far superior" just seemed to give the impression that the average user should be using analog, which I don't believe to be true (especially as the original post referred to DVD playback).

Heh. I ordered mine from BestBuy (RX-A3000; for the 3 years no interest on my BB card), and because they're running their Aventage promo, I got that wireless dock for free (yay - I'd have preferred the wired in all honesty, but go figure, the ONE time I make good on a deal they use the more expensive part I didn't want as much haha). No shipping costs, free wireless dock, and my order should be in-store at or around the 7th.

Anybody here got a few spare bibs? I'm drooling...and I can't stop.

Here's hoping there's discrete codes for audio delay/lip sync for the Harmony remotes to use!

Squishy Tia,

Congrats! I assume you paid MSRP?


Willie

Yeah, it was MSRP AFAIK, but considering I got the freebie AND I have three years to pay it off without interest, that was worth more to me than the $100 off store-only gift cards that others get. And on the plus side, this BB is on my way to work, so it's pick up and enjoy when I get home (once it comes in that is).

Here 'tis.

*******


Welcome to the club, Squishy.

Unless they made changes from previous models, I think you'll find there are discrete RS-232 and Network codes to set the audio delay, but nothing for Infrared.

I do not want to get back into this but have you heard a system with an ICBM and analog?

I'm sure there are more systems today but back when I invested in SACD/DVD-A you had to buy around 5K in equipment to get lossless playback with bass management. I think it was only available on a Denon AVR/DVD player combo with DenonLink.

First time I listed to DVD-A/SACD it was totally useless. Putting the ICBM in the middle made a massive difference.

Same with DVD, the DVD via analog is far superior, and yes I mean FAR superior, via the analogs than over HMDI.

BD I will have to wait and see. On everything I've tried it was much warmer running over the ICBM and analog versus digital and letting the device do BM.

My response to this would be what I first posted. So since we've come full circle I guess we can stop .

Hey All 1st post.......got my 2000 a couple days ago and have a question for you all.

One thing i like to do a lot is display my TV (Currently hooked to HDMI 2) and music (Analog RCA Input) at the same time.

Problem is if I switch to an analog Audio Input then there seems to be no way to display the TV while on this input.

Other thing i tried was to plug the RCA audio in to the analog AV 2 input. I was then able to manually set the Audio source from HDMI to analog and this worked, but it seems after the reciever has been on for a while I can no longer get into the menu(Option Button on remote) where I can manually set audio input!!?? When I press the option button the diplay says "NotAvailable" on the TV. Only Powering off and powering back on the Reciever allows me back into the option menu.

Very annoying and i'm hoping its just a newbie mistake and you guys could point me in a simpler direction to achieve what i'm trying to do which again is:

Display Video from HDMI 2 on HDMI Out while easily being able to switch between the HDMI audio stream and an Analog RCA Audio Stream.

Thx!

Interesting, but as per my previous post I did figure out how to do it by manually toggling between HDMI and Analog Audio under the on screen option menu -> "Audio Select". But this menu only seems to be available for the first few minutes after the reciever boots up. After which I get "Not Available" on the screen.

Can somebody press the option button on their remote and confirm the behavior?

Crap. Another strike against the 3000 and a plus for the Denon 4311.

I consistently enjoy turning off the talking head dum dix with sports and listening to Rhapsody/AppleTV over the video.

Acutually glad this was mentioned now, as I hadn't thought about it yet and it would've been a very unpleasant surprise down the road.

Man yammy! I keep wanting to lean on over and I get a little shot to to the ribs evey time!

James

...I read a bit more here.

Isn't there an "input set-up" screen or the like where you can manipulate the HDMI, and digital audio inputs, per video source?

That's what I do on my Denon: say I assign HDMI 1 to "DirecTV" along with Optical 1 (which is the audio from my appletv) to the same input.

I then simply toggle between input modes with a (shockingly enough) "input mode" button, and it switches between Auto (which prioritizes HDMI, then digital, then analog), HDMI, and digital. That's how I can easily swithc between the DirecTV audio and Apple TV audio.

I know this may seem obvious to some, I just don't know how Yamaha does this specifically, and I'm throwing it out as a suggestion.

James

The Audio Select option I mentioned above will allow you to select between Auto, HDMI, Optical/Coax, and Analog for a given A/V input.
It seems my biggest problem now is not being able to get into the option menu without rebooting my reciever. Could be something stupid i'm doing. Waiting for others to chime in here.

Would coming from a Yamaha Rx-V465 to the Aventage 2000 be a nice step up in quality?

James hit the nail on the head. Just configure using the "Scene" functionality. 12 different combos available. See p.50 and p.103 of manual.

Excellent stuff. Knew there was something simple i was missing. This Scene stuff looks very nice. 12 combo's using whatever you need and one touch toggle between scenes.

just got my A3000, put it on the rack and will be connecting it up shortly. Looks nice, actually not quite as big as I thought it would be.

Guys I've just been thru this manual front to back and cannot find the reason why my on screen display is only usable for the first 10 seconds after booting up the unit.

Does anyone else have this problem or is mine defective?

Edit: For the love of Jesus I figured it out: Pure Direct Was on......Disables pretty much everything

And in other news, in a totally craptastic thud, my left middle finger is now broken, so I ain't gonna be able to even unload the AVR from my car to the house, let alone get it connected in the space it's going into.

The arm with the non-broken finger is deformed, and to top it off, it is not my dominant arm/hand, so I can't write, can barely type via one hand, and eating's going to be a bitch.

Life hates me.

^ that's some real crap. Sorry Squishy. Perhaps if you disclose your locale, someone can give you a hand. No pun intended...bad one too.


James

Oof. If you can still type, what happened?

Ugh. Don't make me laugh - it really hurts when I do because of the pressure against my splint.


I work at a bowling alley, and went to get what seemed to be about 20 or so ball out from underground (the term used for balls stuck in the underground ball return tunnel underneath the guttercap walkway between lane pairs). With that many balls stuck it takes nothing less than 14 lb. balls to even nudge them. I had gotten many of the balls out of the tunnel, but some I can't reach in the limited space of six feet of available access in the single open gutter cap panel at the front of the lane, so I tossed a 14 lb. ball down each lane in the pair both to knock the UG balls forward, but also to knock any balls stuck in the carpet (conveyor belt that removes pins into the pinspotter pit) so those to would come back up front.

Well, I saw both of my orange 14 lb. balls come down the ball lift ramp, and heard them both hit the chain of balls still underground and waited for the balls to stop moving before I resumed manually pushing newly accesible balls into the front pulley lift. Unfortunately neither I nor any of the league bowlers that were bitching at me for having to wait during their practice time saw that there was another ball in the back that had apparently been knocked loose of the carpet's hold and was coming back late after the two balls I threw down the lanes. Said extra ball then came up the ball lift, and down its gravity ramp, ramming into the chain of underground balls that I was in the process of moving along the tunnel, while I had my hand in the tunnel, and my middle finger was smashed with the resulting force of a very heavy ball impacting a ball behind my hand with roughly 1500 PSI of force.

Needless to say my poor finger didn't stand a chance. My middle finger's phalanx (end tip) bone is now fractured in a distint "V" shape and I can only type one handed hunt and peck style with my other hand, which resides on a deformed arm (curved forearm bone; twisted at a 90° angle), so things are a bit more difficult for me than otherwise would be.

My cousin will help me get my AVR, though it will now be several weeks before I get to enjoy it. So my shiny new AVR bought w/ my BDay money won't see use until two months after my BDay (last month).

Joy.

Oh boy. Occupational hazard I guess.
Well, follow Dr.'s orders. Time heals all wounds. The AVR isn't going anywhere.

^ Sh*t. Reason # 567,934 why I stay the hell outta bowling alleys.

I'll say this too...humorously: Anyone who maintains that they understood HTF the dynamics of the above incident really went down (and has never been below bowling alley lanes) is a liar.

The gist of course is an unaccounted-for ball that reeked havoc in the chain of bs.

That said, I have at least 35 varying images in my head of just how that chain was linked together, lol.

James

got my A3000 up and running. Different interface took a little getting used to. I did fine once I figured out to go to the Input assignment on the function menu to match up a couple of the audio/video inputs. Connecting up the speakers was a chore, I like the layout on the Z7 better where all the speaker terminals are on one side instead of all along the bottom. On my rack didn't leave me much room.

At first I did a quick manual speaker setup and then did a few quick listening sessions. Then I went ahead and ran YPAO with 3 positions. I think it did a pretty good job. I put in Blackhawk Down and watched a few scenes, bullets were flying all around me. After that I watched some of the David Gilmore Live in Gdansk, that was very impressive.
I also went ahead and moved my speakers around a little bit and I have a less than optimal setup. My front mains are way to far apart. I have this large brick fireplace (now gas but originally wood burning) and next to that I have my flatscreen tv, and then my stereo rack with the speakers on the sides. The center is right below the tv so that parts fine. But then my surrounds are not set optimal either, their to close together on each side. Just don't have many options.

Anyway, I'm still able to get very good sound and get it to present a fairly good soundstage. Didn't get a chance to do any 2-ch listening yet and I need to figure out how to get my Zone speakers to work off the receiver. Overall this seems to be what I was hoping for, so far anyway.