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post #7711 of 8546
The mains are set to Large. Stereo does indeed produce just left & right but STRAIGHT mode also adds the sw channel. No problem there i prefer it. No lack of soundfields on this receiver either. Thanks for your feedback.
post #7712 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Headspace View Post

The mains are set to Large. Stereo does indeed produce just left & right but STRAIGHT mode also adds the sw channel. No problem there i prefer it. No lack of soundfields on this receiver either. Thanks for your feedback.

This is incorrect. "Straight" mode denotes the absence of any DSP fields, it does not "add a SW channel" under any circumstances. In straight mode, 2 channels in = 2 channels out, unless speakers are set to small.
post #7713 of 8546
Has anyone successfully used one of these Monoprice HDMI extender devices with a RX-Ax000? I read the reviews at their site and some folks were reporting Onkyo and Pioneer receivers not working. One review mentioned a firmware update for Onkyo that fixed the problem:

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Onkyo users be aware: ...I could not get this working with my 609 receiver. I thought I got a defective unit from Monoprice. But the other day I, by coincidence, found out that Onkyo released a firmware update with one fix: better support for HDMI over cat5. And voila! It just works.

Item:
HDMI® Extender Using Cat5e or CAT6 Cable - Extend Upto 328ft
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I'm considering the device for use with an RX-A2000 and wanted to check before purchase. Thanks.
post #7714 of 8546
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

This is incorrect. "Straight" mode denotes the absence of any DSP fields, it does not "add a SW channel" under any circumstances. In straight mode, 2 channels in = 2 channels out, unless speakers are set to small.

Understood. I will go and double check my settings to see if I need to make some corrections here. Thanks RD
post #7715 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Headspace View Post

The mains are set to Large. Stereo does indeed produce just left & right but STRAIGHT mode also adds the sw channel. No problem there i prefer it. No lack of soundfields on this receiver either. Thanks for your feedback.

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

This is incorrect. "Straight" mode denotes the absence of any DSP fields, it does not "add a SW channel" under any circumstances. In straight mode, 2 channels in = 2 channels out, unless speakers are set to small.

Just to be clear, straight modes applies no DSP fields, but source material remains the same. So if the source is stereo (such as an MP3 or music CD) it will be two channels (L/R). If the source is a DVD it will be usually encoded at a 5.1 mix such as Dolby Digital and the subwoofer will be used in this situation. Straight mode just doesn't molest the initial signal by processing it with Dolby Pro Logic or DSP settings.
post #7716 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Gaze View Post

Has anyone successfully used one of these Monoprice HDMI extender devices with a RX-Ax000? I read the reviews at their site and some folks were reporting Onkyo and Pioneer receivers not working. One review mentioned a firmware update for Onkyo that fixed the problem:



Item:
HDMI® Extender Using Cat5e or CAT6 Cable - Extend Upto 328ft
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I'm considering the device for use with an RX-A2000 and wanted to check before purchase. Thanks.

I have not used an HDMI over ethernet balun. I do use a pair of Niles Audio analog over ethernet baluns to run zone 3 to my Yamaha RX-V2600. Works AWESOME.

I did notice a physical difference between the Monoprice and Niles. The Niles does require 2 cat 5/6 cables to connect. Considering HDMI is 19 pin, you might want to look into the 2 cable over a 1 cable balun even if it costs more. I do use Monoprice for my A/V accessories. But for this project, my gut said use the Niles. Don't know why. Whichever route you go, please let us know how it turns out.

Dominic
post #7717 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Gaze View Post

Has anyone successfully used one of these Monoprice HDMI extender devices with a RX-Ax000? I read the reviews at their site and some folks were reporting Onkyo and Pioneer receivers not working. One review mentioned a firmware update for Onkyo that fixed the problem:

Item:
HDMI® Extender Using Cat5e or CAT6 Cable - Extend Upto 328ft
http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

I'm considering the device for use with an RX-A2000 and wanted to check before purchase. Thanks.

I am actually using that very device with a Yamaha RX-A3010 and it works great. One thing to watch out for is static discharge, sometimes the extender will "black-out" for a second or so if there is a lot of static in the room. I wish now I'd used shielded cat6 cable as I think that would probably have eliminated the EMI issues. I also tried two other competitor's HDMI extenders and they were even more sensitive to static discharge.
post #7718 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post


If you want to use the external amp for zone 3 then hook it up to the Zone 3 RCA output jacks just to the left of the pre-outs. Set the Zone 3 volume to variable (On Screen -> Setup -> Multi Zone -> Zone3 Set) if you're using an amplifier without an volume control. Use the fixed setting if the amplifier has its own volume control.

I'm assuming that the RX-A2010 is like the RX-A2000 in this regard.

I got my amp hooked up and it is working fine. The only problem I am having is with the fixed/ variable volume. It is set to variable by default and does not give me the option to switch to fixed. It is shaded not giving me the option. Personally I want to be able to adjust it, but was just wondering if this is the norm. This manual leaves something to be desired.
post #7719 of 8546
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

I got my amp hooked up and it is working fine. The only problem I am having is with the fixed/ variable volume. It is set to variable by default and does not give me the option to switch to fixed. It is shaded not giving me the option. Personally I want to be able to adjust it, but was just wondering if this is the norm. This manual leaves something to be desired.

Make sure you haven't configured the receiver so that zone 3 is being output through the EXTRA SP1 or SP2 speaker jacks. If you're not powering any zone speakers directly through receiver make sure you're not using a Power Amp Assign setting that includes +1ZONE or +2ZONE.

If you are connecting zone 2 speakers directly to the unit then use a setting that includes +1ZONE. You then need to assign the EXTRA SP2 jacks to Zone 2, instead of the default (Zone 3).

The receiver won't let you configure zone 3 to use a fixed volume if it thinks the zone 3 speakers are connected directly to itself.
post #7720 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post


Make sure you haven't configured the receiver so that zone 3 is being output through the EXTRA SP1 or SP2 speaker jacks. If you're not powering any zone speakers directly through receiver make sure you're not using a Power Amp Assign setting that includes +1ZONE or +2ZONE.

If you are connecting zone 2 speakers directly to the unit then use a setting that includes +1ZONE. You then need to assign the EXTRA SP2 jacks to Zone 2, instead of the default (Zone 3).

The receiver won't let you configure zone 3 to use a fixed volume if it thinks the zone 3 speakers are connected directly to itself.

Thanks again Ross I tried that and it worked. I sent you a pm, but you don't need to explain it any further. I started reading this manual two months before I purchased this AVR, and I'm still struggling at times. Many thanks goes out to you, this forum, and the all those that post there knowledge.
post #7721 of 8546
The AV Contoller app has been updated to version 3.10. You can now stream in the background while surfacing the web. Apparently Yamaha is listening to consumers complaints.
post #7722 of 8546
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

The AV Contoller app has been updated to version 3.10. You can now stream in the background while surfacing the web. Apparently Yamaha is listening to consumers complaints.

Awesome news, gonna grab it for both iOS and Android now! Thanks
post #7723 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post


Awesome news, gonna grab it for both iOS and Android now! Thanks

No problem, but thank Yammy, I didn't do anything but pass it along. That's what this thread is all about. BTW, I tried it already and it worked fine for the few minutes that I used it for.
post #7724 of 8546
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

No problem, but thank Yammy, I didn't do anything but pass it along. That's what this thread is all about. BTW, I tried it already and it worked fine for the few minutes that I used it for.

It auto updated for me on my droid x, but I noticed the app store on the iPad had a read 1, so I updated. It's ice to be able to stream music from the device and surf the web at the same time. Who needs AirPlay!
post #7725 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post


It auto updated for me on my droid x, but I noticed the app store on the iPad had a read 1, so I updated. It's ice to be able to stream music from the device and surf the web at the same time. Who needs AirPlay!

I agree, I can't wait til the weather breaks here. I just installed a pair of stylus SM-370's in my yard and I am really looking forward to streaming, surfing and having a cold one outdoors.
post #7726 of 8546
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post


I agree, I can't wait til the weather breaks here. I just installed a pair of stylus SM-370's in my yard and I am really looking forward to streaming, surfing and having a cold one outdoors.

This thread has been awfully quiet for two days. Has everyone solved all of their problems?
post #7727 of 8546
Guys, I got a problem that bothers me, maybe someone can help? The problem is that my sub is humming for a short period of time (usually 5-10 seconds) even when receiver is muted. Then it is quiet. The humming occurs every time I turn the mute ON on the receiver. This is not that big a deal but I can hear the same humming even when watching a movie during the quiet scenes. Anyone experienced something like this?

I know it's not the subwoofer because when I connect it directly to subwoofer output on my Oppo 93 player, I don't hear any humming when turning mute ON on Oppo (not receiver). The sound is solid and pure.

My setup is:
- Yamaha RX-A2000
- Paradigm Sub SE
- Oppo 93 Blu-ray player
post #7728 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Randallco View Post

Guys, I got a problem that bothers me, maybe someone can help? The problem is that my sub is humming for a short period of time (usually 5-10 seconds) even when receiver is muted. Then it is quiet. The humming occurs every time I turn the mute ON on the receiver. This is not that big a deal but I can hear the same humming even when watching a movie during the quiet scenes. Anyone experienced something like this?

I know it's not the subwoofer because when I connect it directly to subwoofer output on my Oppo 93 player, I don't hear any humming when turning mute ON on Oppo (not receiver). The sound is solid and pure.

My setup is:
- Yamaha RX-A2000
- Paradigm Sub SE
- Oppo 93 Blu-ray player

Do a search for "ground loop" and try some of the usual methods for eliminating hum. Ground potentials are mystical gremlins, never assume anything. Any thumps or pops happening?
post #7729 of 8546
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Do a search for "ground loop" and try some of the usual methods for eliminating hum. Ground potentials are mystical gremlins, never assume anything. Any thumps or pops happening?

Yeah, I already did some research in that area...but the humming I experience seems to be related to my receiver because:
- all my electronic equipment (receiver, Blu-ray player, TV, subwoofer etc) is powered from the same power conditioner (Panamax) but the humming occurs ONLY when subwoofer is hooked to receiver, NOT when it is hooked to subwoofer output on the Blu-ray player;
- the humming always occurs when I turn the mute ON on my receiver and lasts always between 5-8 seconds then it disappears - so I'm able to reproduce it whenever I want;
- randomly, the humming is also noticeable when I watch a movie (or listen to the music) but NOT AT ALL when the subwoofer is powered but disconnected from receiver;

I guess I'll have to talk to Yamaha customer service since my receiver is still under warranty. Maybe they will give me some hints.
post #7730 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Randallco View Post

Yeah, I already did some research in that area...but the humming I experience seems to be related to my receiver because:
- all my electronic equipment (receiver, Blu-ray player, TV, subwoofer etc) is powered from the same power conditioner (Panamax) but the humming occurs ONLY when subwoofer is hooked to receiver, NOT when it is hooked to subwoofer output on the Blu-ray player;
- the humming always occurs when I turn the mute ON on my receiver and lasts always between 5-8 seconds then it disappears - so I'm able to reproduce it whenever I want;
- randomly, the humming is also noticeable when I watch a movie (or listen to the music) but NOT AT ALL when the subwoofer is powered but disconnected from receiver;

I guess I'll have to talk to Yamaha customer service since my receiver is still under warranty. Maybe they will give me some hints.

Have you tested a different cable going to your subwoofer?
post #7731 of 8546
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

Have you tested a different cable going to your subwoofer?

No, I didn't, since with the very same cable, I don't hear any kind of humming when sub is directly hooked to Oppo player...
post #7732 of 8546
I just connected an Outlaw 750 5 channel amp to my Yamaha RX-A1000. It is pushing Emotiva ERM-6.2 fronts, ERM-6.3 center, and ERD-1 surrounds in a 5.1 config. Not TOO much a difference in sound quality with the amp as opposed to the receiver only. Mind you, the speakers are all 4 ohm w/89db sensitivity. So they aren't terribly inefficient.

I added the amp mainly to ease my mind since I will be adding Emotiva UOM-6.2 outdoor speakers that are also 4 ohm, 88 DB sensitivity. With the amp in place, the sound is definitely more airy and open. Well worth the piece of mind considering I bought it used, in mint condition, for $460. Now the receiver will only have the duty of pushing the outdoor speakers.

Just thought I'd inform those who were considering adding an amp to their receiver. My A1000 never clipped or sounded like it was straining to push the 5 interior speakers. YMMV
post #7733 of 8546
Hi, just got my 2010 today, very impressive!

I want to bi amp my two front speakers, but can't find what outputs to use for the lows and which ones for the highs on the reciever.

Could somebody please halp me with the issue? Thanks a lot!
post #7734 of 8546
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Originally Posted by private Angus View Post

I want to bi amp my two front speakers, but can't find what outputs to use for the lows and which ones for the highs on the reciever.

Use the FRONT and EXTRA SP 1 terminals. It doesn't matter which ones you use for a lows or highs since the receiver doesn't have an active crossover.

Make sure you've set the Power Amp Assign setting to 7ch BI-AMP.
post #7735 of 8546
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Originally Posted by private Angus View Post

Hi, just got my 2010 today, very impressive!

I want to bi amp my two front speakers, but can't find what outputs to use for the lows and which ones for the highs on the reciever.

Could somebody please halp me with the issue? Thanks a lot!

I've had mine since November and I love it. It has so many options it will feel like a new toy for weeks. I'm still learning about it. I hope you have a smart phone that has the yamaha av Controller app. It's one of my favorite features. Enjoy your new AVR.
post #7736 of 8546
Thanks a lot for the help. Yeah i'm using it with my ipad, the app is really great!
post #7737 of 8546
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Originally Posted by pappaduke View Post

I've had mine since November and I love it. It has so many options it will feel like a new toy for weeks. I'm still learning about it. I hope you have a smart phone that has the yamaha av Controller app. It's one of my favorite features. Enjoy your new AVR.

I LOVE my app. It has literally turned my 2000 into a music server. The only cog for me is the older non network rcvr's it feeds. I still have to grab a remote control for one. The other is so old I have to "approach it and turn a knob"http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/smilies/eek.gif.
post #7738 of 8546
I'm using my RX-A3000 pre-outs to feed external amplifiers (B&K's) which power my center channel & left/right main speakers. Whenever I do something like mute the receiver or pause tivo i get a "pop" in the speakers. Is this the Yammie's fault or are my power amps to blame? I have a mono amp powering my center channel & a 2-channel powering my left-right. Appreciate your help thanks hombres.
post #7739 of 8546
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Originally Posted by tommylicious View Post

I'm using my RX-A3000 pre-outs to feed external amplifiers (B&K's) which power my center channel & left/right main speakers. Whenever I do something like mute the receiver or pause tivo i get a "pop" in the speakers. Is this the Yammie's fault or are my power amps to blame? I have a mono amp powering my center channel & a 2-channel powering my left-right. Appreciate your help thanks hombres.

Usually this is attributed to a ground potential at the amp. The pop is a discharge of voltage that happens when the input signal is interrupted. It can propagate to all attached (line level) devices. There are some ways to track down the source, but the 1st step would be to remove the amps one at a time from the chain and see if/when it's resolved. You might have some success by dealing with it the same as you would a ground loop hum, but some amps will do it regardless and in other cases it can be a defect in the amp.

You may find it does the same thing when you pause or skip chapters in your disc player.
post #7740 of 8546
thanks grimes so then how is it actually corrected once identified?

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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Usually this is attributed to a ground potential at the amp. The pop is a discharge of voltage that happens when the input signal is interrupted. It can propagate to all attached (line level) devices. There are some ways to track down the source, but the 1st step would be to remove the amps one at a time from the chain and see if/when it's resolved. You might have some success by dealing with it the same as you would a ground loop hum, but some amps will do it regardless and in other cases it can be a defect in the amp.
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