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post #7771 of 8518
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Originally Posted by dan webster View Post

Is there any way to disable the onscreen volume?

Hi dan webster, yes ... menu -> Function -> Display Set -> Short Message -> Off (default is "on").
post #7772 of 8518
probably a very dumb question - but is there a product that will connect to the A1000 via the ethernet port that will connect to my wireless router wirelessly? something of a wifi adapter?
post #7773 of 8518
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Originally Posted by LansdaleHokie View Post

probably a very dumb question - but is there a product that will connect to the A1000 via the ethernet port that will connect to my wireless router wirelessly? something of a wifi adapter?

Yes, it's called a "wireless bridge".
post #7774 of 8518
Definitely, I'm using one of these:
TRENDnet TEW-647GA
there are also bit faster and/or cheaper ones, but this one's been great for me.
post #7775 of 8518
If anyone saw my post last night about my OSD, here are a couple of pictures of it. Any idea how to remedy?? The first one is of the volume and the second one is when muted.

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post #7776 of 8518
I just bought an RX-A2010. This is my first experience with a receiver that auto-calibrates. The receiver says that some of my speakers are wired in reverse. I have verified that this is incorrect. I've read some other posts here discussing the same thing.

YPAO's setup doesn't sound as good as the manual settings I had on my old Sony ES receiver that I've had since 2003. I'm guessing that the Yamaha has "automatically" reversed the polarity of my speakers to "correct" the "problem" that it thinks I have with my wiring. If this is the case, then it's a really bad idea to have some speakers out of phase with the others, and I would like to change that setting in the Yamaha so that it thinks my speakers are wired correctly.

I've resorted to setting it up manually, but I don't see any setting that allows me to change the "reverse" polarity for some speakers. Does anyone here know if there is such a setting? Also, if there is no setting, do you know if the receiver actually "reversed" my correctly-wired speakers?
post #7777 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

...I've resorted to setting it up manually, but I don't see any setting that allows me to change the "reverse" polarity for some speakers. Does anyone here know if there is such a setting? Also, if there is no setting, do you know if the receiver actually "reversed" my correctly-wired speakers?

That YPAO message is just a warning, and if you're sure the speakers are wired correctly then ignore it. The receiver will not actually reverse the polarity itself.

If you don't like the way the YPAO setup sounds, make sure you do a multi-point setup, and also try the different modes (Flat, Natural and Front) to see which sounds best. Compare them with YPAO off and see what it's doing that you don't like. It may be rolling off the high frequencies more than you like, or the subwoofer level may be lower than you like. You can adjust things after running YPAO without disabling it altogether.
post #7778 of 8518
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Originally Posted by Dominic26 View Post

If anyone saw my post last night about my OSD, here are a couple of pictures of it. Any idea how to remedy??

Someone else posted about a corrupted volume display and unplugging/replugging the receiver from the wall fixed it. If that doesn't work for you, either a complete reset (which which will lose your settings) or reloading the firmware (even if it's with the same version you have now) could fix it.
post #7779 of 8518
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

That YPAO message is just a warning, and if you're sure the speakers are wired correctly then ignore it. The receiver will not actually reverse the polarity itself.

If you don't like the way the YPAO setup sounds, make sure you do a multi-point setup, and also try the different modes (Flat, Natural and Front) to see which sounds best. Compare them with YPAO off and see what it's doing that you don't like. It may be rolling off the high frequencies more than you like, or the subwoofer level may be lower than you like. You can adjust things after running YPAO without disabling it altogether.

Thanks for the info. It's good to know that it didn't actually reverse the speaker polarity. I've tried the different YPAO settings (Flat, Natural, Front). Not really satisfied with them. What I've done so far, is to copy the YPAO setting to "Manual" and I've been changing things from there.

I put the microphone in the middle of the couch when I ran the auto setup. I put it on a pile of pillows so that the mic is at ear level. How would the multi-position setup help me? The mic is only two feet from the left or right seating positions on the couch.
post #7780 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

I put the microphone in the middle of the couch when I ran the auto setup. I put it on a pile of pillows so that the mic is at ear level. How would the multi-position setup help me? The mic is only two feet from the left or right seating positions on the couch.

I would use all 8 positions for YPAO even if there's only a few feet covering them. I think there's less chance of a getting a bad setup when you're averaging 8 positions than when doing only one position. It might not make a big difference, but it's worth a try.

The pile of pillows for the mic could also be a problem. If something is absorbing (or reflecting) sound during the setup that's not normally there, it can affect the result. Ideally you have a tripod for the mic. Again, it might not make a big difference in your case but you never know.
post #7781 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

Thanks for the info. It's good to know that it didn't actually reverse the speaker polarity. I've tried the different YPAO settings (Flat, Natural, Front). Not really satisfied with them. What I've done so far, is to copy the YPAO setting to "Manual" and I've been changing things from there.

I put the microphone in the middle of the couch when I ran the auto setup. I put it on a pile of pillows so that the mic is at ear level. How would the multi-position setup help me? The mic is only two feet from the left or right seating positions on the couch.

Even if you run it from the same position multiple times you should get more accurate results. I have experimented with this, and while speaker measurements and levels are usually the same it doesn't always cross everything the same as its previous run. So I think the best bet is to run it multiple times and let it average them out.
post #7782 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

Thanks for the info. It's good to know that it didn't actually reverse the speaker polarity. I've tried the different YPAO settings (Flat, Natural, Front). Not really satisfied with them. What I've done so far, is to copy the YPAO setting to "Manual" and I've been changing things from there.

I put the microphone in the middle of the couch when I ran the auto setup. I put it on a pile of pillows so that the mic is at ear level. How would the multi-position setup help me? The mic is only two feet from the left or right seating positions on the couch.

It will only measure 8 other seating positions. It will take all of these and average it. It does this for mainly distances for speakers, room reflection and angles.

Taking only one mic measurement will give very inaccurate results. I recommend multi point measuring. If you can bower a tripod from a friend, you will be better off.
post #7783 of 8518
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Someone else posted about a corrupted volume display and unplugging/replugging the receiver from the wall fixed it. If that doesn't work for you, either a complete reset (which which will lose your settings) or reloading the firmware (even if it's with the same version you have now) could fix it.

Thanks. I will try those and let the thread know what happens.
post #7784 of 8518
OK, I'll try the multi-position setup. I guess I'll rig up something else to hold the mic. I don't have a tripod, and I don't know anyone with a tripod that adjusts down short enough to put it on a couch and hold the mic at ear level. I thought about the absorbtion of the pillows, but the human body absorbs sound too... so I didn't think it would make any difference.

Another question... my old Sony ES was 100 Watts/channel. The specs on it say 100Wx6. It would rattle the windows in the house. This one is supposed to be 140W (stereo), but it is nowhere near as powerful as my old Sony ES in 6.1 mode. Anyone else notice this?
post #7785 of 8518
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Originally Posted by JChin View Post

Hi dan webster, yes ... menu -> Function -> Display Set -> Short Message -> Off (default is "on").

I just tried that there is no option for short message just wallpaper and front panel display brightness.
post #7786 of 8518
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Originally Posted by dan webster View Post

I just tried that there is no option for short message just wallpaper and front panel display brightness.

The 3010 has the option to disable short messages, the 3000 doesn't. Did you mean to say you have the 3000?
post #7787 of 8518
The 2010 has the option to disable the short message too. Is there a firmware upgrade for the 2000/3000 for this option?

Personally, I like seeing the volume display on the screen. I wish it didn't have such a large black box, but so far, I like it. Weird that Yamaha made the black box so large. It would have been better if they allowed us to adjust size, background color, text color, and transparency of the box.
post #7788 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

Another question... my old Sony ES was 100 Watts/channel. The specs on it say 100Wx6. It would rattle the windows in the house. This one is supposed to be 140W (stereo), but it is nowhere near as powerful as my old Sony ES in 6.1 mode.

It's all in the setup (and don't worry what the number says on the volume display). It's probably the sub that rattled your windows. On the Yamaha make sure all speakers are set to SMALL (with a crossover that's not too low) so that the sub handles the low bass, then turn up the sub if you need to.
post #7789 of 8518
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

The 3010 has the option to disable short messages, the 3000 doesn't. Did you mean to say you have the 3000?

Yes i have the 3000 not the 3010. My mistake. I got excited when i thought i could get the onscreen volume turned off. I think i will wait for the 3020. Too bad there is no firmware update to turn the 5 ft wide, black and very distracting volume display off on my projection screen. I ask again what were they thinking?
post #7790 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

OK, I'll try the multi-position setup. I guess I'll rig up something else to hold the mic. I don't have a tripod, and I don't know anyone with a tripod that adjusts down short enough to put it on a couch and hold the mic at ear level. I thought about the absorbtion of the pillows, but the human body absorbs sound too... so I didn't think it would make any difference.

Another question... my old Sony ES was 100 Watts/channel. The specs on it say 100Wx6. It would rattle the windows in the house. This one is supposed to be 140W (stereo), but it is nowhere near as powerful as my old Sony ES in 6.1 mode. Anyone else notice this?

You want it at ear level while in a seating position fyi
post #7791 of 8518
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Originally Posted by dan webster View Post


Yes i have the 3000 not the 3010. My mistake. I got excited when i thought i could get the onscreen volume turned off. I think i will wait for the 3020. Too bad there is no firmware update to turn the 5 ft wide, black and very distracting volume display off on my projection screen. I ask again what were they thinking?

Ironically,
Many with the older generation Yamaha AVRs that did not have onscreen volume via HDMI always complained of not having it. Sounds like they got it right in the 3010: "optional."

Cheers
post #7792 of 8518
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post


Exactly. I've already had a self proclaimed expert calibrator tell me I'm wrong as well. Perhaps he should break out some measuring equipment himself and take some readings. I can live with the receiver for now but I'll be ditching it when the opportunity presents itself. Ill just stash it in the master bedroom. I have a funny feeling that some smoking deals on the 4311 will soon pop up

Much like you I'm sitting on some external amps(lcr)... I may just finish off all the channels and go with a Integra pre/pro next upgrade, but the 4311 is slick.
post #7793 of 8518
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Originally Posted by kriktsemaj99 View Post

Someone else posted about a corrupted volume display and unplugging/replugging the receiver from the wall fixed it. If that doesn't work for you, either a complete reset (which which will lose your settings) or reloading the firmware (even if it's with the same version you have now) could fix it.

kriktsemaj99,

Thank you. Pulling the plug out and putting it back in worked.

Dominic
post #7794 of 8518
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

You want it at ear level while in a seating position fyi

I understand that. Not my first rodeo. I actually calibrated my old AVR using hand-held measurement devices. It was awesome, but it did not have HDMI switching... and these Yamaha AVR's have lots of cool Internet streaming features that I just could not pass up. Especially the ability to control it via a smart phone!
post #7795 of 8518
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Originally Posted by JackOften View Post

Much like you I'm sitting on some external amps(lcr)... I may just finish off all the channels and go with a Integra pre/pro next upgrade, but the 4311 is slick.

Meh, I wouldn't touch an onkyo product with a 10 ft pole these days. Hopefully you have better luck with it then I did.
post #7796 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

I understand that. Not my first rodeo. I actually calibrated my old AVR using hand-held measurement devices. It was awesome, but it did not have HDMI switching... and these Yamaha AVR's have lots of cool Internet streaming features that I just could not pass up. Especially the ability to control it via a smart phone!

Well I sort of brought that up because you described using pillows and such.

The Yamaha has a lot of nice features. I love everything about it except ypao. It falls flat on its face when it comes to room correction unfortunately.
post #7797 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

I understand that. Not my first rodeo. I actually calibrated my old AVR using hand-held measurement devices. It was awesome, but it did not have HDMI switching... and these Yamaha AVR's have lots of cool Internet streaming features that I just could not pass up. Especially the ability to control it via a smart phone!

I agree with all you have said about the RX-A 's but I found that the more YPAO reading positions I measured, the fewer errors I got, including phase.
post #7798 of 8518
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

Well I sort of brought that up because you described using pillows and such.

The Yamaha has a lot of nice features. I love everything about it except ypao. It falls flat on its face when it comes to room correction unfortunately.

I agree with you on the YPAO so far. Everything else is great though.

The pillows were stacked on the couch so the mic was at my ear level when seated. I've just about got it tweaked the way I want now. Not much need to continue messing with YPAO. I will say that the parametric EQ on this AVR is much better than the one on my old Sony.
post #7799 of 8518
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Originally Posted by barnabas1969 View Post

I agree with you on the YPAO so far. Everything else is great though.

The pillows were stacked on the couch so the mic was at my ear level when seated. I've just about got it tweaked the way I want now. Not much need to continue messing with YPAO. I will say that the parametric EQ on this AVR is much better than the one on my old Sony.

Yeah, the sound quality is definitely there. I'm curious if there will be any drastic changes on the 3020 however.
post #7800 of 8518
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Originally Posted by Venomous View Post

Yeah, the sound quality is definitely there. I'm curious if there will be any drastic changes on the 3020 however.

This AVR does everything I want for the moment. I don't have a need for 9.1 surround, so I am able to use two of the internal amplifiers for the pool/porch speakers. With all the streaming capabilities, and remote control from an Android/iPhone... I'm set. The only thing I might change is the on-screen volume display. I like that it displays on-screen... I just wish the black box was smaller or not there at all.
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