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post #8431 of 8763
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Originally Posted by bdfox18doe View Post

Pandora Bug with Firmware V 3.31:

Attached pic of what happens with Pandora under V 3.31 firmware. It appears to stall after an extended period that varies. This happens randomly, but always at the end of a song. I suspect this is the Pandora "Are you still listening?" pop up that I see using my laptop. Changing inputs, nor bringing up the Play Control and hitting Play again will restore playback on the station I am on. However, choosing another station will play fine.


You have me a bit concerned here of updated my A2000. I'm on 3.20 firmware right now...I think.
It's interesting, because a year ago the pandora on my A2000 never would quit or get commercials whereas my ipod touch was plagued with both.
Almost as if Pandora saw the AVR as a less common/popular device and didn't push commercials to it.
post #8432 of 8763
This pertains to mobile, but will AVR's be far behind?

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Music-Streaming-Pandora-Tim-Westergren-Royalties-RIAA,news-16808.html
post #8433 of 8763
Yamaha Receivers DSP modes make me dizzy

I finally got front presence speakers for my two Adventage receivers: an RX-A3000 and RX-A800 installed. They sound wonderful with movies and music and I love the dialog lift.

However, the second I turn these effects on I get dizzy. This is not a problem with other modes like Dolby Digital, DTS or Dolby ProLogic IIx music or movie decoding.

Has anyone else had this reaction? Am I missing a setting somewhere?
post #8434 of 8763
I just became the proud owner of a used rx-a2000. I demoed the 1020 and was blown away by the clarity however, there was a notable lack of punch in the bass and clarity in the voices that didn't exist with a Sony ES3700 I tried. I figured changing some settings could get me there with the Yamaha where the Sony was never going to improve with life like sound.
Does anyone have recommendations on what settings I should look at changing? By the way I have no sub or center. I have Dahlquist m909 speakers that are fully capable as witnessed by the Sony. I have actually never had a center or sub and never missed them.
post #8435 of 8763
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Originally Posted by rdcollns View Post

I just became the proud owner of a used rx-a2000.
Does anyone have recommendations on what settings I should look at changing? By the way I have no sub or center. I have Dahlquist m909 speakers that are fully capable as witnessed by the Sony. I have actually never had a center or sub and never missed them.

Congrats on the a2000,
Give your setup I really don't have any setting recommendations (I'm not familiar with the m909s). Do you use the setup for strictly two channel listening or some movies as well? Mainly curious given your statement that you have never needed a center - do you not utilize the center channel at all or do you use a 909 in that position as well?

Enjoy theYam.

Cheers
post #8436 of 8763
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Originally Posted by KJSmitty View Post

Congrats on the a2000,
Give your setup I really don't have any setting recommendations (I'm not familiar with the m909s). Do you use the setup for strictly two channel listening or some movies as well? Mainly curious given your statement that you have never needed a center - do you not utilize the center channel at all or do you use a 909 in that position as well?

Enjoy theYam.

Cheers

I don't utilize the center channel. I've always had very full sized speakers flank the screen, and I've never had a room where you sit far off center, so I never saw a point to have a center speaker (and there really isn't a good place for it in my current setup). I would be much more inclined if the speaker could sit directly behind the screen. I have a 10' projected image, and I've noticed with friends with large screens who have their centers mounted underneath or above the screen that the sound comes from that direction, vs with two speakers at ear level the sound seems to come more from the center of the screen as long as you don't sit too far to the side.

I watch tons of movies, but music is much more of my passion, so I tend to focus my energy on that (and picked the Yamaha over the Sony because it sounds like you are sitting in the recording studio with the musicians.) The m909s are supposed to be a perfectly neutral speaker, 8ohms, two 8" woofers. They were the largest speaker in Dahlquists line in the late 80s.

Long term I might add a cabinet below the screen with a center channel and some presence speakers for dialog lift, but that would be very far down the line.

Thanks for the congrats, I'm really excited. With how good the 1020 sounded, I can't imagine how good the 2000 will sound.
post #8437 of 8763
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Originally Posted by rdcollns View Post

I don't utilize the center channel. I've always had very full sized speakers flank the screen, and I've never had a room where you sit far off center, so I never saw a point to have a center speaker (and there really isn't a good place for it in my current setup). I would be much more inclined if the speaker could sit directly behind the screen. I have a 10' projected image, and I've noticed with friends with large screens who have their centers mounted underneath or above the screen that the sound comes from that direction, vs with two speakers at ear level the sound seems to come more from the center of the screen as long as you don't sit too far to the side.
I have a 2.1 set up... COMPLETELY satisfied with stereo sound with a sub. Using Definitive Technology's Mythos XTR-50 speakers and a Polk Audio sub... Gotta have a sub!!
post #8438 of 8763
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Originally Posted by rdcollns View Post

I don't utilize the center channel. I've always had very full sized speakers flank the screen, and I've never had a room where you sit far off center, so I never saw a point to have a center speaker (and there really isn't a good place for it in my current setup). I would be much more inclined if the speaker could sit directly behind the screen. I have a 10' projected image, and I've noticed with friends with large screens who have their centers mounted underneath or above the screen that the sound comes from that direction, vs with two speakers at ear level the sound seems to come more from the center of the screen as long as you don't sit too far to the side.

I watch tons of movies, but music is much more of my passion, so I tend to focus my energy on that (and picked the Yamaha over the Sony because it sounds like you are sitting in the recording studio with the musicians.) The m909s are supposed to be a perfectly neutral speaker, 8ohms, two 8" woofers. They were the largest speaker in Dahlquists line in the late 80s.

Long term I might add a cabinet below the screen with a center channel and some presence speakers for dialog lift, but that would be very far down the line.

Thanks for the congrats, I'm really excited. With how good the 1020 sounded, I can't imagine how good the 2000 will sound.

I had to google your M909s out of curiosity. :-). Sounds like they are quite the speaker.

I too have a 126 inch screen/PJ setup with large 5 ft towers on either side. My center speaker is under the screen, about 12 inches off the floor angled slightly upward where the sound is aimed directly at ear level at the seating positions. Fully understand your desires and passion; however, if you ever decide to implement a center channel I just wanted to add that the dialogue lift function works quite well on the Yamaha. You may even like the DSP modes that the front presence speakers provide for music (and movies). I utilize an RX-Z11 and can attest to the fact the center channel sounds just like it is emanating from the center of the screen.

As for settings, and you probably have already done this but just ensure the 2000 is set for "no sub" and any other setting that mixes the center channel into the mains for movie viewing.

Cheers
post #8439 of 8763
I own the RX-A2000 & it will not remember my settings. Is there a watch type battery inside that needs to be replaced?
post #8440 of 8763
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Originally Posted by smetaxas View Post

I own the RX-A2000 & it will not remember my settings. Is there a watch type battery inside that needs to be replaced?

That's a good question.. I assume when you say it won't remember them this occurs when you kill power completely like removing the cord from the wall?

I have an old DSP-A1 that I still really enjoy yet if it looses power/is unplugged I have to reprogram it as well. I never could find any "read" that discussed a battery as you mentioned. I never did call Yamaha tech or anything however. I did however " open its hood" and went searching for a battery but found nothing. Figured maybe it had a capacitor type circuit that maintained a charge that eventually died.

Sorry I can't help directly. Maybe someone in the know will chime in and enlighten us both. biggrin.gif. I had asked years ago in another Yamaha forum but without answer.

Cheers
post #8441 of 8763
I don't know about the DSP-A1, but the RX-A2000 uses an EEPROM to store its settings.

What are the symptoms of your RX-A2000 failing to remember its settings, smetexas?
post #8442 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

I don't know about the DSP-A1, but the RX-A2000 uses an EEPROM to store its settings.

That's what I figured - some form of NVM. Probably not widely used back in 1996 when the DSP-1A came out.... But then again maybe...
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post #8443 of 8763
Battery-backed SRAM is also a form of non-volatile memory, but if you didn't find a battery when you looked for one then its entirely possible the DSP-A1 uses an EEPROM instead. EEPROMs were a well established technology in 1996.
post #8444 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

Battery-backed SRAM is also a form of non-volatile memory, but if you didn't find a battery when you looked for one then its entirely possible the DSP-A1 uses an EEPROM instead. EEPROMs were a well established technology in 1996.

Sounds good. Guess it may have died or if it has a power source maybe that gave up the ghost..biggrin.gif. My system utilizing the DSP-A1 is all on a UPS thus isn't an issue any longer, but I was/have been curious... Hopefully my Z11 doesn't get this illness as I switch the power off to the HT/equipment rack quite often.

Cheers
post #8445 of 8763
I lose my power amp sttings, as in zone 2 assign if power goes out. I didn't bother with a lot of other settings because I figured it was a waste of time until I changed the battery. I guess I'd better call Yamaha. Thanks guys!
post #8446 of 8763
Question regarding A3000: I want to attach 2 tv sets; one (which is an older set that doesn't support HDMI) via Component output for video with audio going through the A3000 attached speaker system; the other via HDMI for audio/video. Should this work ok? IE both sets concurrently receiving signals. I am asking because its a bit difficult to actually do these connections, so wanted to get some feedback before doing so. Thanks for any responses.
post #8447 of 8763
The component video output will only work with sources connected using analogue video (composite, S-Video or component). The HDMI output will work with any video input. The receiver doesn't support conversion from HDMI to component.
post #8448 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

The component video output will only work with sources connected using analogue video (composite, S-Video or component). The HDMI output will work with any video input. The receiver doesn't support conversion from HDMI to component.

ok; thanks, so what I wanted to do won't work as all of my sources are connected via HDMI. The older set does have a DVI input connector (which supposedly is HDCP compliant) so I guess I could try connecting it to one of the A3000's HDMI monitor outputs using a HDMI-DVI cable.
post #8449 of 8763
My Pandora seems to be working better all of a sudden... Anyone else?
post #8450 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

The component video output will only work with sources connected using analogue video (composite, S-Video or component). The HDMI output will work with any video input. The receiver doesn't support conversion from HDMI to component.

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Originally Posted by twarren View Post

ok; thanks, so what I wanted to do won't work as all of my sources are connected via HDMI. The older set does have a DVI input connector (which supposedly is HDCP compliant) so I guess I could try connecting it to one of the A3000's HDMI monitor outputs using a HDMI-DVI cable.

well, that was a bust also. If I connect either of the 2 sets (i.e. set 1 with HDMI/DVI cable OR set 2 with HDMI cable) that set works fine, but when I connect them both, I get no signal on either one. (doesn't matter which is HDMI 1 out and which is HDMI 2 out). So I guess the A3000 can't handle independent signals from HDMI and DVI (seems a bit weird).
post #8451 of 8763
I just tested and my receiver (HTR-8063 aka RX-A1000) can drive both a PC monitor in DVI mode and a TV using HDMI at the same time.

Using two displays at once will only work if they have a video format in common they both support. The problem could also be while the two displays support a common resolution, their EDIDs (list of capabilities) don't have a common display mode. For example, your older display may only advertise PC resolutions (eg. 1024x786) using DVI, and your newer display may only give TV resolutions (eg. 720p). You might be able to get both working at the same time by forcing your source(s) to use a resolution both displays support support rather than letting them automatically select one.
post #8452 of 8763
Heh. Interesting on the EEPROM conversation. My Yamaha HTR-5860 was disconnected for nearly three years and despite the manual stating that the memory would only be retained for "about one week", all of my settings, right down to lip sync timing and input renaming/assignments was retained. That's quality right there. I only brought the 5860 out of retirement to power my grandparents Polk SoundBar 42" (the original, not the lesser versions out today), since TV speakers...well, suck.

Also, I take it despite firmwares continuing to be released, that none of them have rectified the huge honkin' volume bar in the OSD whenever you change volume? Sure wish that would get fixed....
post #8453 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Ross Ridge View Post

I just tested and my receiver (HTR-8063 aka RX-A1000) can drive both a PC monitor in DVI mode and a TV using HDMI at the same time.

Using two displays at once will only work if they have a video format in common they both support. The problem could also be while the two displays support a common resolution, their EDIDs (list of capabilities) don't have a common display mode. For example, your older display may only advertise PC resolutions (eg. 1024x786) using DVI, and your newer display may only give TV resolutions (eg. 720p). You might be able to get both working at the same time by forcing your source(s) to use a resolution both displays support support rather than letting them automatically select one.

thanks; thats interesting - I can check - I know that when the older set is connected by itself it can handle 1080i or 720p signal; the newer set can go up to 1080p. Also, I found sort of a work around: I connected the cable tv stb hdmi out to an hdmi splitter and then connected one of its outputs to one of the A3000 hdmi in ports and the other to the second tv set via hdmi. Then connected the A3000's hdmi out to older tv set using hdmi-dvi cable. So now I can get all sources on the older set and cable tv source on both sets. This configuration works fine. I can watch (same) cable tv program on both sets or cable tv on second set and any other source on first set.
post #8454 of 8763
I use my 65"Panny plasma with HDMi-1 for video sources..and a 20" pc monitor under the center speaker on HDMi-2 for audio / streaming sources..as well as an occasional PWP (picture WITH picture)..output select is saved with the scenes for each source. That way I don't have to turn on my Panny when I want Pandora or internet radio.
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Downloading v3.5 iPad app...
post #8456 of 8763
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

Downloading v3.5 iPad app...

Thanks for the heads up. Please let us know if it breaks anything.

Updates for important niche products make me extremely nervous. If a "PayPal" app update breaks, you know they'll fix it in less than a business day, but if Yamaha fumbles the code and releases a bad update, a worst case scenario could have the fix done in weeks. This app is our sole method of controlling the AVR, or at least it is for our Zones 2 & 3. I started making backups of the Yamaha app a while ago and have version 3.10, 3.40, & 3.41.

I even have the original app Aventage 3.0.0.ipa that Yamaha took off the app store:D (lets you thumb up/down Pandora songs). When I realized how easy it was backup apps, I started with all my apps; it's just a hard drive space issue for the large 1GB apps.
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Originally Posted by VARTV View Post

Downloading v3.5 iPad app...

Yes, Thanks for heads up..downloading the iPhone update now..plus an additional 11 other updates that probably make no difference..I think some programs..esp adobe..do an update just to do one..
post #8458 of 8763
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Originally Posted by Cravit8 View Post

Thanks for the heads up. Please let us know if it breaks anything.

Updates for important niche products make me extremely nervous. If a "PayPal" app update breaks, you know they'll fix it in less than a business day, but if Yamaha fumbles the code and releases a bad update, a worst case scenario could have the fix done in weeks. This app is our sole method of controlling the AVR, or at least it is for our Zones 2 & 3. I started making backups of the Yamaha app a while ago and have version 3.10, 3.40, & 3.41.

I even have the original app Aventage 3.0.0.ipa that Yamaha took off the app store:D (lets you thumb up/down Pandora songs). When I realized how easy it was backup apps, I started with all my apps; it's just a hard drive space issue for the large 1GB apps.
np... I do agree with niche products vs mainstream apps...
post #8459 of 8763
v.3.5 seems to work fine for me in both iPhone and Android versions. It feels like it responds quicker to inputs. No problems to report so far.
post #8460 of 8763
I noticed on my Android phone it doesn't show that one is listening to an HD2, HD3 or HD4 stream...
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