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post #511 of 551
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Originally Posted by J_P_A View Post

If I understand your situation correctly, it sounds like you are going to need to remove a few boards and replace them. Assuming the subfloor is not also warped, I would cut out a board or two using a chisel or anything you can get your hands on. It doesn't have to be pretty, you just don't want to hurt the adjacent boards. Once you get one out, or even a portion of one, you can usually work out the remaining portion of that board as well any others that are affected without having to pull up the adjacent good boards. It's not fun, and can be time consuming depending on how flat your floor is and what else is holding down the laminate. After that, you put in as many boards as you can using the interlocking mechanism (you might have to slide some in). Again, probably not fun, and probably takes longer than you want if your floor is good and flat. For the last few (one if you can make it work out), you will probably have to cut off the locking tab, and glue it to the adjacent boards. The last time I did this, I was able to leave the tab on one side which allowed for a good glue surface, but I had to cut the other locking tab off. I put a little glue on the edge anyway. Most squeezed out when I pushed the board down, but I figured if any was left, it was better than nothing. I used regular wood glue. And just to clarify, I'm talking about gluing the wood together, not gluing to the floor .
Now, if this is on a wood subfloor, you might even be able to put a few face nails in that last board. The argument there being the floor can't float and you might end up with buckling in the future depending on the layout.

JPA, you posted your message at the same time I was typing mine up. I have a concrete subfloor, so no worries there. Otherwise, it seems like we have the same idea. Thank you very much for taking the time to post a reply!
post #512 of 551
One other thing I thought of. I seem to remember having a couple pieces that WOULD NOT slide into place once locked no matter how much I persuaded them. IIRC, I ended up trimming the locking part of the tab off (a sharp utility knife worked well for this), and putting some glue on those pieces and slid them into place. I ended up with overlapping tabs with glue rather than a locking feature. It's a little hard to describe, but hopefully you follow what I'm getting at. The glue is probably stronger anyway. I would just put something heavy on the pieces you glue to make sure you get a good bond; unless your floor is uneven, in which case you will end up with wood that follows the contour of the subfloor.

Good luck. I think this is one of those cases where the obvious answer is probably right, despite how unpleasant it might be biggrin.gif
post #513 of 551
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Well, I haven't been courageous enough to cut up my floor, so the swelled laminate is still untouched. This really is a shameless bump to keep my thread from falling any farther back. But really, I am thinking about building some new speakers, not because I NEED them, more because I am bored and want something to do this winter.

I really like my Statements, especially for music, but have been pondering the idea of building a set of 4pi's or maybe some version of an SEOS. The additional sensitivity would be welcome and I am up for another challenge.

In case people are interested, my wife and I use the theater about as fast as Netflix can send a new BluRay. I was afraid that it might go unused for periods of time, but we have really used it a lot. Football weekends are especially nice when there is nothing else going on. Just wanted to throw this out there for those that are on the fence when trying to decide to build or not.
post #514 of 551
I started a 'build thread' a while ago, hoping it would spur me and keep me accountable. My goal was the SuperBowl, and I'm nowhere near started. eek.gif

If you get real bored, you could come do mine for me! biggrin.gif
post #515 of 551
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Originally Posted by brausch View Post

Well, I haven't been courageous enough to cut up my floor, so the swelled laminate is still untouched. This really is a shameless bump to keep my thread from falling any farther back. But really, I am thinking about building some new speakers, not because I NEED them, more because I am bored and want something to do this winter.
I really like my Statements, especially for music, but have been pondering the idea of building a set of 4pi's or maybe some version of an SEOS. The additional sensitivity would be welcome and I am up for another challenge.
In case people are interested, my wife and I use the theater about as fast as Netflix can send a new BluRay. I was afraid that it might go unused for periods of time, but we have really used it a lot. Football weekends are especially nice when there is nothing else going on. Just wanted to throw this out there for those that are on the fence when trying to decide to build or not.

Brian,
I'm glad to hear that you are getting lot's of use out of the theater!
We are finishing our 2nd full year of use. Despite the novelty wearing off; I am still down there an average of 3 evenings a week (my wife even joins me for at least 2 of those evenings).
Glad to hear you are getting into speaker building. I got the itch as well - and today I received my very first SEOS shipment smile.gifsmile.gif
post #516 of 551
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Quick update to keep the ole thread from slipping into obscurity.

Got a few small movie posters for Christmas and finally got around to getting them mounted on the wall.

From afar...


And up close...
post #517 of 551
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I got a fun little package in the mail today!


I ordered it at the beginning of January, but it was backordered until the end of Jan. Overall I was impressed with how quickly it arrived considering it was shipped from Hong Kong. I would plan on playing around with it ASAP, but the dedicated theater room became a dedicated play room a week ago, as our first child arrived 10 days early. No more updates for about 18 years.wink.gif
post #518 of 551
Hey Brian. Congratulations on the new baby!! I wonder what Barney and Elmo will look like on that size of screen...

Enjoy the ride as they grow up very fast!
post #519 of 551
Congrats man! cool.gif

I'm getting married this fall, and my goal is to get my space done before I have your problem wink.gifbiggrin.gif
post #520 of 551
Brian - congratulations!
Enjoy as these next years will fly by ...
post #521 of 551
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Originally Posted by GWCR View Post

Hey Brian. Congratulations on the new baby!! I wonder what Barney and Elmo will look like on that size of screen...

Enjoy the ride as they grow up very fast!

Thanks GWCR. I am glad the build is at a good stopping point so I can enjoy her. I have been following your build, looks like it will turn out nice.

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Congrats man! cool.gif

I'm getting married this fall, and my goal is to get my space done before I have your problem wink.gifbiggrin.gif

Thanks Nick. Congrats on the upcoming marriage.

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Brian - congratulations!
Enjoy as these next years will fly by ...

Thanks Cuzed. Before I know it she will be all grown up and attending ISU...wink.gif
post #522 of 551
I like the way you think - just enjoy to the Max. Those special years in between
post #523 of 551
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So I have had ZERO time to spend in the basement doing calibration, but I have spent plenty of time dreaming about upgrades. Specifically, subwoofers. I can knock out a couple subwoofer boxes much quicker than I can figure out REW, so this is something I can probably do without spending a huge amount of time.

Right now I have a THTLP and a BIC Acoustech H100, neither of which go very low (<25). I am looking to build something that goes to 20 hz or so (lower hopefully). I would keep the THTLP and sell the BIC unless this would cause problems.

Currently I have the BIC sitting on the riser to the side of the couch. I was toying around with the idea of building 1 or two sealed enclosures to fit between the back wall and the back couch. However, the drivers would be firing directly into the back of the couch, is this going to cause a problem? I like being able to locate subs at the front of the room AND the back of the room to try to smooth the response throughout the room.

From my very quick calculations, I have about 9 cubic ft of internal volume available for enclosures that will fit behind the couch.

If firing into the back of the couch is going to be a problem, I can build normal boxes to be located behind the screen, but I lose the placement in the back of the room.

I have this drawn up in sketchup that I can add tomorrow if I am doing a poor job explaining.

Any input is appreciated, specifically:
1. Will it be okay to fire the drivers into the back of the couch without problems?
2. Will I run into problems trying to use the THTLP that goes down to 25hz with a sealed (or ported) sub designed to go lower? Would I be smarter to do something different? I have Audyssey with XT32 if that helps make a recommendation.
post #524 of 551
Hey good to see you posting again!

My 2 cents worth:
For best results - Definitely go with 2 matched subs. I hear good things about folded horns. - but have no experience, cause I am running 3 "almost matched" SVS 16s. You have the perfect AVR for multiple subs (but you already know this).
post #525 of 551
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Pretty terrible photo, but I have moved onto my next project. This room originally contained a stacked washer and dryer which are now located in the big laundry room. This will now be a dedicated mudroom/entry way. I tiled/grouted the floor, then built in the sides/shelves - then finally built the face frame. Next step is to make doors for the left side and top openings, then sand and paint.





On the subwoofer front, I think I am just going to make another THTLP. I already have the plans and I know it works well, I will just be limited to leaving it behind the screen. Not in a huge hurry to do that, as the theater room doesn't get used as much now that our daughter is here.
Edited by brausch - 6/11/13 at 9:08pm
post #526 of 551
I like it. Tiling is fun, isn't it? rolleyes.gifwink.gif
post #527 of 551
Brian,

Seems like life with your little one is keeping you quite busy. Please enjoy these young days to the maximum as they will go by VERY quickly.
I was reminded of this many times this week; We spent Monday and Tuesday in Ames for our youngest son's ISU orientation.

Let me know when that THTLP is finished - would love to hear the result smile.gif
post #528 of 551
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I like it. Tiling is fun, isn't it? rolleyes.gifwink.gif

Thanks Nick. Tiling is okay in small doses like this....its just when you have to do hundreds of square feet when the fun starts to wear off.

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Originally Posted by cuzed2 View Post

Brian,

Seems like life with your little one is keeping you quite busy. Please enjoy these young days to the maximum as they will go by VERY quickly.
I was reminded of this many times this week; We spent Monday and Tuesday in Ames for our youngest son's ISU orientation.

Let me know when that THTLP is finished - would love to hear the result smile.gif

Cuzed, you are welcome any time. Give me a little heads up and I will make sure I am around. We are definitely enjoying the little one, but you are right about the time going by quickly - she is 4 months old and it feels like she was just born last month.
post #529 of 551
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Finished product. Very happy with how it turned out.

Here is the view from the living room area. You can see that I removed the door, door stops and filled the hinge cutouts. Wife did all the painting.


Here is a view from the garage.


In other news, my sister in law got married this weekend. On Sunday my wife's parents hosted a brunch at our house for the wedding guests. We had 60-70 people cycle through the house throughout the morning. I am happy to report that everyone who toured the basement was super impressed with the theater room - enough so that it was full all morning with different people watching Wimbledon.
post #530 of 551
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Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post

I like it. Tiling is fun, isn't it? rolleyes.gifwink.gif

But it lasts forever. Do right and do it once. my tile looks as good today as the day I put it down. Rarely does that happen with other options.
post #531 of 551
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So I haven't been working on MY house, but I have been working. Disclosure - this is not even my house, so it has no theater related work at all. Just keeping my thread off page 50 (and maybe it will be interesting to someone).

Dad is building a house so I have been helping him out here and there. It started with me just designing the horizontal geothermal borefield - that was it, my entire scope...here is what it turned into.

Design horizontal borefield.
then
Specify heat pump
then
Design HVAC system
then
Install HVAC system
then
Install sanitary and domestic plumbing system
then
Specify condensing boiler/indirect water heater
then
Tile master bathroom

....talk about scope creep!

It was actually a lot of fun (even though it was a lot of work). We are currently waiting for the electrician to come back and make the final connections to all the equipment in the mechanical room. After that I will go up there one more weekend and get the geothermal loop purged, the heat pump started, the condensing boiler started and the pumps piped/balanced (domestic circ, radiant zone pumps, heating water).

I didn't take many pictures for some reason - mainly because I was working long days and I was always busy...but I did manage to snap a few. I didnt take any of the plumbing (pretty boring stuff), or HVAC (exciting to me, I just forgot). One interesting thing about this house is that it is a concrete house, meaning all the exterior walls are concrete, which made it interesting when running electrical/plumbing on exterior walls.

Here are a few pictures:

Heat pump with plenum ductwork


I installed my return main a few inches too far North, so I had to add a slight transition on the return duct. This wasn't a problem as the duct I was using for a return plenum was oversized.


I added duct liner to the inside of the return duct to trap some of the compressor noise


Shower prepan


Liner, floor sloping system, curb


Close up of curb


Shower floor was dry fit, then moved out prior to isntallation


Hardiebacker dry fit on the bathroom floor
[img]Infloor heat layed out

Floors installed


Walls, curb, tub surround installed


Tub surround


Another view


The shower has two shower valves, one valve controls the two lower heads (you can just barely see them in the picture below), the other shower valve controls the rain head that is mounted from the ceiling. The ceilings in this house are 11 or 12 feet tall, so it should be neat when complete. The 13x20 wall tile goes up to just under 8 feet for perspective.


I would have picked out a different tile (or at least done some accent strips or something), but that is just personal preference. It sounds like mom and dad are very happy with how it turned out. I need to find some time to get back up there and grout it.

It has been quite enjoyable working on this house. I finished my entire basement, but I didn't get to do entire systems like this. Doing the entire sanitary, domestic and HVAC system was slightly intimidating at first - but very manageable once I got going.
Edited by brausch - 9/19/13 at 3:00pm
post #532 of 551
where does the TV go?
post #533 of 551
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Originally Posted by weaselfest View Post

where does the TV go?

No TV requested in the bathroom.
post #534 of 551
Looks like a really nice house. You done good cool.gif
post #535 of 551
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Originally Posted by NickTheGreat View Post

Looks like a really nice house. You done good cool.gif

Thanks Nick.

In other news, I had a weak moment today and bought an Emotiva XPA-3 during their "warehouse sale." I have been eyeing one for a long time and finally pulled the trigger.
post #536 of 551
Looks great Brian! Yeah, that scope creep will get you every time.rolleyes.gif Excellent work!

Nice score on the XPA-3. I keep wondering if I "need" something like that. So far my AVR seems to be doing a great job, and we don't listen at reference levels so I haven't really tested its limits. Let me know how the XPA-3 works out, and what kind of difference it makes for you.
post #537 of 551
I too caved for the Emotiva warehouse sale. Picked up an XPA-5. This will be my first amp and I am excited to see what kind of difference it will make. Have you had separates before or is this your first as well? I'm wondering if there is an easy way to set up an A/B comparison test? Not sure how discerning an ear I have.
post #538 of 551
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Looks great Brian! Yeah, that scope creep will get you every time.rolleyes.gif Excellent work!

Nice score on the XPA-3. I keep wondering if I "need" something like that. So far my AVR seems to be doing a great job, and we don't listen at reference levels so I haven't really tested its limits. Let me know how the XPA-3 works out, and what kind of difference it makes for you.

GWCR, I was in the same boat - wondering if I needed it. Probably still don't, but I got it anyway. We don't usually watch at reference either, but I do enjoy rocking out every now and then by myself (too loud for my wife). I am excited to see what a difference (if any) it makes.
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Originally Posted by vanice View Post

I too caved for the Emotiva warehouse sale. Picked up an XPA-5. This will be my first amp and I am excited to see what kind of difference it will make. Have you had separates before or is this your first as well? I'm wondering if there is an easy way to set up an A/B comparison test? Not sure how discerning an ear I have.

Vanice, this is also my first separate amp. I didn't really have a problem with the Denon (it seemed to suit my needs just fine) - the sale price just got the best of me. I can't help with the A/B test question though. I am going to do some reading before it gets here to see if there is an easy way. If not, I will hook it up and just enjoy.
post #539 of 551
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The XPA showed up this afternoon. I have some friends coming over to watch the ISU game tonight, so I will probably wait to hook it up until tomorrow. I only have one deep rack shelf (which currently holds my Denon). I need to move the Denon to one of the shallower shelves to make room for the XPA. With all that moving around, I want to play it safe and make sure everything is running fine for the game.

I can say that it was packaged very well and arrived in great shape.
post #540 of 551
I trust that you watched last night's WIN in your theater? biggrin.gif
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