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post #241 of 2373
"Shakka, when the walls fell"

Actually, that episode was one of the last ones I saw. I went to college during the last 2 seasons, and I know they kinda get more stinky, but I would still love to watch them! I did, however see the last episode which was very well done IMO.....
post #242 of 2373
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

Haha, true. But it's easier to forgive and forget when the Dominion is kicking your ass. Even so, he was a great character! The other great one was Martok, played by J. G. Hertzler. Great stuff.

Agreed. I had to have a little fun at the expense of your quote.. but I enjoyed both characters and actors.

I always thought Gowron's look reminded me of the other Hulk from the Hulk TV show 2-parter. I know it was Dick Durock... but in the Hulk makeup, he made similar facial expressions and eyes looked similar to some of what Robert O'Reilly did with Gowron.
post #243 of 2373
post #244 of 2373
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Originally Posted by Maxwell Everett View Post

What's your source for this? It's my understanding that D1 is a component video format and D2 is a composite format. But I've found no info that TNG used D2. The article I found which mentions 1-inch analog and D1 was published in the Official Star Trek Fan Club magazine.

Fixed my error. It's been a looong time since I had to look up my materials from the era.
post #245 of 2373
No new info on this? Still hoping we this this sample disc released before the year is out!
post #246 of 2373
It's driving me crazy... I am really looking forward to info on this. No one seems to want to leak info anymore...
post #247 of 2373
I have a feeling only a few choice episodes will get remastered, not all 7 seasons. Too much work would need to be done.
post #248 of 2373
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

I have a feeling only a few choice episodes will get remastered, not all 7 seasons. Too much work would need to be done.

Good! I cannot sit thru half the episodes anymore, the two parters and a few choice episodes would do.
But I would prefer DS9, in the later series it was more bad ass than any other series on tv.

Maybe the collective sets, I would double dip on them.
post #249 of 2373
DS9 and Voyager couldn't probably be fully remastered as they were edited as NTSC video. Once again I'd assume that they'd only release a few choice episodes to be reconstructed and remastered.
post #250 of 2373
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

DS9 and Voyager couldn't probably be fully remastered as they were edited as NTSC video. Once again I'd assume that they'd only release a few choice episodes to be reconstructed and remastered.

I thought the one remaster they did was DS9?
post #251 of 2373
Yes they did remaster one episode. I bet they'll remaster 15 or so DS9 episodes, just not the whole show. Remember they'd have to find all the original filmed takes and re-edit them alongside newly created special effect sequences.
post #252 of 2373
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

Yes they did remaster one episode. I bet they'll remaster 15 or so DS9 episodes, just not the whole show. Remember they'd have to find all the original filmed takes and re-edit them alongside newly created special effect sequences.

As long as Sisko does not have hair I am happy
post #253 of 2373
I did start watching these again on Netflix. I guess as I've gotten older, I've grown to like them
post #254 of 2373
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

I thought the one remaster they did was DS9?

Not sure what you mean by "remaster," but what they did w/ the Trials and Tribbleations" (sp?) episode is upscale it to 1080p on the Star Trek season 2 BD set. However, it's still the same 480i source, so it looks like a mess. Many of us think our BD/DVD players do a better job at upscaling.

Doug
post #255 of 2373
No not like that.

They'd have to find the original filmed rushes scan those, then they'd either just upscale the 480i effect shots or remake them.

Either way they'd have to re-edit every episode from the original filmed takes and possible redo every effect for 14 seasons of TNG and DS9.
post #256 of 2373
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Originally Posted by dvdmike007 View Post

As long as Sisko does not have hair I am happy

LOL, I feel the same way. For some reason, bald Sisko is 100% more badass than Siskfro. I don't know if the show got new writers or what, but the shaved head brought with it a whole new level of awesome.

As much as I would like to see a full restoration akin to TOS, I think I would settle for a transfer of the source material (35mm) in crisp 1080p with the effects upscaled. As ugly as some of those effects might look, I want to avoid Star Wars-esque revisionism as much as possible.
post #257 of 2373
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Originally Posted by nick_danger View Post

I would settle for a transfer of the source material (35mm) in crisp 1080p with the effects upscaled.

Isn't that basically what they did with the FIREFLY series?
post #258 of 2373
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Originally Posted by reanimator View Post

Isn't that basically what they did with the FIREFLY series?

Yes, but it wasn't terribly distracting - at least not to me. It's old, low budget, and I loved it then. Would I love Firefly remastered with 1080p effects rendering? Sure, but only if they don't change the ships, add a thousand more fighters into scene, or add CGI singers in place of puppets or something.

I'm generally the same way with videogames. Yes, I love shiny graphics, but it's the gameplay that matters most of all.
post #259 of 2373
Since they were all edited and archived at NTSC 480i, it would be too hard- time and money wise.
post #260 of 2373
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Originally Posted by Fanboyz View Post

Since they were all edited and archived at NTSC 480i, it would be too hard- time and money wise.

Not saying they won't do it... but I think a lot of people don't realize the effort that the editing would take.

Not only do they have to re-edit from the original film... but since people have memories, it will matter how they re-edit.. so they will have to re-edit with a constant eye to the video edits to make sure they put the episode back together the same way... or fans will go nuts.
post #261 of 2373
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Originally Posted by Jamie E View Post

If Paramount is putting out a sampler disc for fans this year, that must mean that they are doing it the "right" way (rescanning and reediting episodes down from the original film elements). There's no way they'd just put out a disc of four upscaled episodes ahead of time--they'd be ripped to shreds by fans.

Assuming this is true, my personal hope is that fans will be forgiving of the changes (intentional and otherwise) that are absolutely going to happen during this process, from lost alternate takes, to changes in cut points, to color timing changes. If you are the type who will scream and rant because one shot in an episode used a slightly different take in the remastered editions compared to the aired versions, please do us all a favor and don't bother to buy them, 'mkay? Thanks.

I wonder if in recomposing the FX shots they take some leeway and spice them up?

Lots and lots of them were the same general flyby shot of the enterprise, or an uninteresting standoff view, or the same shot of the ship in orbit with a planet recolored.

There are literally hundreds of FX shots from lesser episodes (most in any season) that could be better spiced up to reflect whats going on the bridge.

Also wonder if Probert and Drexler will be called in.
post #262 of 2373
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

Not saying they won't do it... but I think a lot of people don't realize the effort that the editing would take.

Not only do they have to re-edit from the original film... but since people have memories, it will matter how they re-edit.. so they will have to re-edit with a constant eye to the video edits to make sure they put the episode back together the same way... or fans will go nuts.

Thats why I say they should just step back and realize they really can't, it would be nice- but they really can't.

Release "Enterprise" instead...
post #263 of 2373
Enterprise would not sell enough to justify the effort given it's general lack of appeal to the core fanbase, though I would buy it. I liked the show for what it was rather than what it wasn't, despite it's flaws. I suppose if they got rid of the late 90's soft-rock elevator music style opening credits sequence, it would go a long way towards establishing the credibility of the show but that may be too much to ask for.
post #264 of 2373
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

Not saying they won't do it... but I think a lot of people don't realize the effort that the editing would take.

Not only do they have to re-edit from the original film... but since people have memories, it will matter how they re-edit.. so they will have to re-edit with a constant eye to the video edits to make sure they put the episode back together the same way... or fans will go nuts.

You have seen what Paramount thinks about its fans, right? It'll rape your wallet as often as it think it'll get away with it.

Ultimately, enough people would buy that, that they would probably try it on. And then re-release an 'original' cut sometime down the line...

Cynical, me? Nah, never...

Seggers
post #265 of 2373
I would just rather they sorted out the movies first.
post #266 of 2373
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Originally Posted by HDMe2 View Post

Not saying they won't do it... but I think a lot of people don't realize the effort that the editing would take.

Not only do they have to re-edit from the original film... but since people have memories, it will matter how they re-edit.. so they will have to re-edit with a constant eye to the video edits to make sure they put the episode back together the same way... or fans will go nuts.

This isn't a big deal. Worst case scenario is if they have lost the original EDL (edit decision list) which I doubt . They have the previous video master to refer to . The tough bit will be them having to manually locate and identify the correct takes if they have lost the info.
post #267 of 2373
If they do this I hope it sells, I would like to see other shows from other studios.
Mostly Buffy and Angel, the DNR on the dvds to remove the 16mm grain early on is the worst I have ever seen.
post #268 of 2373
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Originally Posted by Mr.D View Post

This isn't a big deal. Worst case scenario is if they have lost the original EDL (edit decision list) which I doubt . They have the previous video master to refer to . The tough bit will be them having to manually locate and identify the correct takes if they have lost the info.

That's what I was meaning... not that it would be impossible... just difficult, and potentially expensive and time-consuming.

The question, given the state of the economy, is how much would they be able to sell these for in order to recoup the cost?

Syndication is one option for revenue... like they did with the original series... but they have more than twice (nearly 3x, but not quite) the number of episodes to process and more involved F/X to update as well for TNG.

It's going to be expensive and possibly a couple of years before they have anything ready to start selling... and if they start with season 1 to release in order, then that one isn't going to sell as well as later seasons.

With TOS, they jumped around randomly and sold to syndication the best episodes to start getting money back... then released all 3 seasons once the work was done.

To do that same thing for TNG would take a lot more time and a lot of money if they didn't start selling seasons until all 7 were done. That's part of what makes this such a daunting thing to consider.
post #269 of 2373
It's not realistic to think even a season's worth of episodes will be made HD.
post #270 of 2373
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Originally Posted by Mr.D View Post

This isn't a big deal. Worst case scenario is if they have lost the original EDL (edit decision list) which I doubt . They have the previous video master to refer to . The tough bit will be them having to manually locate and identify the correct takes if they have lost the info.

I could care less as long as they don't fundamentally change things, or remove key scenes. HD & upgraded FX trounce minor changes in editing choices (in light of how much the fraked up with preserving the series).

And look on the bright side. It'll give the rabid cannon'ers something to do, painstakingly measuring time stamps and small changes and filing it away in some online repository of technobabble. After all, they've been looking for something to do after divorcing Trek 09' and not having a series since ENT.
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