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post #121 of 154
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Originally Posted by eat meat View Post

I have been using a micro jem tuner for over the air and plugged it in several pc via hdmi and dvi .It plays mkv files also really well on a 4 gig card (pirates all over are beeming)This would be great for a student in a dorm.the remote seems to work from the front and back for me but that may be reflections.The warning on the packing bag was disappointing, pro longed time plugged in in standby "may adversely affect the micro imager panel". And the cooling fans are kinda loud.

Are you referring to the iSival projector when you mention the issue about the warning of prolonged time plugged in power outlet in standby mode? iSival has no standby mode, unless what you mean is when it's turned off and left plugged in power outlet (cooling fan turns off completely when powered down with remote or the button on top). I leave the iSival permanently plugged into the power outlet and I experience no problems at all whatsoever..The manual has no mention at all, absolutley no warning referring to what you said?
post #122 of 154
the m2.
post #123 of 154
I am currently looking at the M2 but the only thing stopping me is that it is supposedly very noisey.

How would you describe the noise is it more of a high pitch whine, is it constant or does it change speeds?

I am currently looking at like 4-5 different projectors and they all have like one flaw that keeps them from being really good. If the Sival had higher light output/ contrast it would be great.

These are the projectors I am looking at.

Sival MP720B1

Cost $499 USD

Panel LCOS
Native Resolution 1280 X 768
Supported Aspect Ratio 16:9 (native), 4:3
Brightness ~60 ANSI Lumens
Contrast Ratio 200:1
Uniformity 85%
Video Input HDMI 1.3, D-Sub, Composite. USB (JPEG only)



Acer K11

Cost: $399 CAD

Panel DLP Display Technology
Resolution (Native / Max) SVGA (858 x 600) WXGA+ (1440 x 900)
Aspect Ratio 4:3 (Native) 16:9
Brightness (ANSI Lumens) 200 ANSI Lumens
Contrast Ratio 2000:1
Inputs USB, SD Card Slot1, HDMI ,VGA D-Sub 15pin, Composite AV Jack


Axxa M2

Cost $369 USD

Panel LCOS
Native Resolution: XGA (1024x768)
Brightness 110 ANSI-Lumens
Contrast Ratio: 2000:1
Inputs HDMI ,VGA D-Sub 15pin, Composite


Lg HS201/ hs200

Cost $479 CAD

Panel DLP Display Technology
Native Resolution: 800x600
Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Lumens: 200
Contrast: 2,000:1
Inputs Composite, RGB, HDMI 1.3, Headphone Jack, USB
post #124 of 154
pony up a few more$(200 or so) and get a casio Casio XJ-A130 XGA (1024 x 768) DLP projector - 2000 ANSI-20,000 hours ($699.99 Free shipping )

or get the led optima pt 100(170$)
- 50 lum.- * 16:9 wide screen display (854x480 native resolution)

* LED light source for excellent color and a long lifetime of over 20,000 hours
* Built in speaker for gaming and movies
* Versatile VGA and audio/video inputs mean you can connect the PT100 to: Game consoles (Cable and adapters may be required); Computers; DVD players; Cable and Satellite receivers; Digital still and video cameras; VCRs.




and save for a while. Better led/hybred things will be coming.
post #125 of 154
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Originally Posted by doodies View Post

I am currently looking at the M2 but the only thing stopping me is that it is supposedly very noisey.

How would you describe the noise is it more of a high pitch whine, is it constant or does it change speeds?

I am currently looking at like 4-5 different projectors and they all have like one flaw that keeps them from being really good. If the Sival had higher light output/ contrast it would be great.

These are the projectors I am looking at.

Sival MP720B1

Cost $499 USD

Panel LCOS
Native Resolution 1280 X 768
Supported Aspect Ratio 16:9 (native), 4:3
Brightness ~60 ANSI Lumens
Contrast Ratio 200:1
Uniformity 85%
Video Input HDMI 1.3, D-Sub, Composite. USB (JPEG only)



Acer K11

Cost: $399 CAD

Panel DLP Display Technology
Resolution (Native / Max) SVGA (858 x 600) WXGA+ (1440 x 900)
Aspect Ratio 4:3 (Native) 16:9
Brightness (ANSI Lumens) 200 ANSI Lumens
Contrast Ratio 2000:1
Inputs USB, SD Card Slot1, HDMI ,VGA D-Sub 15pin, Composite AV Jack


Axxa M2

Cost $369 USD

Panel LCOS
Native Resolution: XGA (1024x768)
Brightness 110 ANSI-Lumens
Contrast Ratio: 2000:1
Inputs HDMI ,VGA D-Sub 15pin, Composite


Lg HS201/ hs200

Cost $479 CAD

Panel DLP Display Technology
Native Resolution: 800x600
Aspect Ratio: 4:3
Lumens: 200
Contrast: 2,000:1
Inputs Composite, RGB, HDMI 1.3, Headphone Jack, USB

The M2 is noisey. But I do not find it a bother since I listen to the sound from the source through my stereo. If you are going to use the internal speakers it might be a bit too noisey.
post #126 of 154
Luxcine ESP300

http://www.yourhomeprojector.com/Lux.../luxesp300.htm

Have you guys seen this?
post #127 of 154
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Originally Posted by bruce banner View Post

Luxcine ESP300

http://www.yourhomeprojector.com/Lux.../luxesp300.htm

Have you guys seen this?

it looks like it might be a clone of the isival... but it sports/claims a much better contrast ratio.

The specs seem too good to be true. a LED light cannon? single LCD instead of the LCOS used on the isival.

Projection System Technology: LED and Single LCD Technology
Brightness: 1600 Lumens
Native Resolution: 720p (1280 x 720)
Rescaled Resolution: 1080p
Contrast Ratio: 1200:1
Aspect Ratio: 16:9/4:3
Engine: Dust-Proof Engine
Projection Lens Type: Digital zoom and manual focus
Projection Lens Material: 5 Peice all glass
Focal Length: 16.6 mm
Zoom Ratio: Digital zoom 1.0-1.35
Screen Size: 50" - 150"
Lamp Type: LED
Lamp Hours: Normal mode: 20,000 hours
Supported Signals: NTSC / PAL
Computer: XGA / SVGA / VGA
Inputs:HDMI, Component Video, Composite Video, S-Video, VGA, USB, SD-CARD
Audio: 2 x RCA
Digital TV tuner
Keystone Correction: +/-15 degrees
Picture Modes: Dynamic, Living room, Theatre, Game
Supported File Formats: WMV9,AVI,ASF,DAT,MPEG
Supported Photo Fomats: JPG, BMP
Power Consumption: 90~240V AC @ 100 watts
Weight: 3 kgs
Dimensions: 330*260*127 mm
Noise: 28 dB
Projector Warranty: 2 years
Lamp Warranty: 2 years

...oh very tempted.. might try it in a month or two.
post #128 of 154
those things are big ...no isival clone for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpiwI2pjXsA
post #129 of 154
gotta love the move Kung fu hustle playing at the end of the youtube vid, find it-see it-mmm campy goodness.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyWhVUCXY1A
post #130 of 154
I wanted to give an update review since I have the Aaxa M2 for a few weeks now.

Pros:

This is a bright projector! Do not let the 110 lumens fool you! I had a Sanyo VLP-Z3 rated at 900 lumens and this M2 is almost as bright! (and plenty bright for 100" in a dark room)!

The contrast on this is actually as good, if not better then the Sanyo's! Dark scenes have plenty of definition and there is no mottling or splotchy effect as I have seen with lower contrast projectors. (I had and Nec LT170 XGA that was only 1:1000 contrast and you could see that lack of contrast in that projector)!

The colors are very good, every bit as good as I ever achieved with the Sanyo (or any other projector I have owned)!

No discernible Screen Door Effect! With a 85" image, I can stand a foot away and not see any SDE (unlike the Sanyo which was a higher resolution [1280x720] but still had visible SDE)!

Cons:

The projector need some distance to achieve its 100" image (more then 12.5 feet) which means in my "room" I can only get a 85" image. I am considering a front surface mirror and mounting the projector a few feet up the wall to get that 100" image to fill my screen!

There is a bit of noise from the fans. It can be distracting at times, (though it is lessened by using a stereo for your sound instead of the PJ itself).

I have not been able to get the correct aspect ration (4x3 or 16x9 etc.) with all my equipment. My Dish HD DVR works great, however my Magnovox Blu-ray doesn't. Very annoying! I am going to try my old non-blu-ray DVD player with HDMI and see how that works; I will keep you posted.

In conclusion, is it worth it?

ABSOLUTELY! For an XGA PJ with 110 lumens, HDMI and a 15K lamp life, it doesn't cost much more then the bulb I use to buy for the my Sanyo (it is listed at $369.00). If you are looking specifically for an XGA PJ or one for gaming, this would be great! I'm hoping that Aaxa will come out with a 720P or even a 1080P Projector. I am saving my pennies for it now!!!

UPDATE:

I hooked up my older HDMI DVD player at 720P and it played it perfectly with the correct aspect ratio! So it seems that it is the fault of my Magnavox Blu-ray player for not having a correct aspect ration for within a 4x3 matrix! I am going to have to get a new blu-ray player - for now I am glad all my regular DVD are available to me to play on the M@!!!
post #131 of 154
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Originally Posted by OklahomaBear View Post

I wanted to give an update review since I have the Aaxa M2 for a few weeks now.

Pros:

This is a bright projector! Do not let the 110 lumens fool you! I had a Sanyo VLP-Z3 rated at 900 lumens and this M2 is almost as bright! (and plenty bright for 100" in a dark room)!

The contrast on this is actually as good, if not better then the Sanyo's! Dark scenes have plenty of definition and there is no mottling or splotchy effect as I have seen with lower contrast projectors. (I had and Nec LT170 XGA that was only 1:1000 contrast and you could see that lack of contrast in that projector)!

The colors are very good, every bit as good as I ever achieved with the Sanyo (or any other projector I have owned)!

No discernible Screen Door Effect! With a 85" image, I can stand a foot away and not see any SDE (unlike the Sanyo which was a higher resolution [1280x720] but still had visible SDE)!

Cons:

The projector need some distance to achieve its 100" image (more then 12.5 feet) which means in my "room" I can only get a 85" image. I am considering a front surface mirror and mounting the projector a few feet up the wall to get that 100" image to fill my screen!

There is a bit of noise from the fans. It can be distracting at times, (though it is lessened by using a stereo for your sound instead of the PJ itself).

I have not been able to get the correct aspect ration (4x3 or 16x9 etc.) with all my equipment. My Dish HD DVR works great, however my Magnovox Blu-ray doesn't. Very annoying! I am going to try my old non-blu-ray DVD player with HDMI and see how that works; I will keep you posted.

In conclusion, is it worth it?

ABSOLUTELY! For an XGA PJ with 110 lumens, HDMI and a 15K lamp life, it doesn't cost much more then the bulb I use to buy for the my Sanyo (it is listed at $369.00). If you are looking specifically for an XGA PJ or one for gaming, this would be great! I'm hoping that Aaxa will come out with a 720P or even a 1080P Projector. I am saving my pennies for it now!!!

I am thinking of building a hush box that looks like a book for mine,that and I want to see if I can keep it on hdmi when I start it-its always on vga.
post #132 of 154
you can kinda get a sense of how loud the m2 is based on the sole video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkdFf2HwdpU).

for anyone feeling ambitious, would be nice to have a more through vid review of it ..including no background audio to get a sense of how loud it is, and at different sizes etcetc

i have an acer k11 on order; it was a tossup between m2 and the k11. might return it for the m2 after testing it or after ces annoncements :P
post #133 of 154
I will try to get a video up in the next day or so.... Will keep u posted!
post #134 of 154
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I just received the Da-Lite Screen Company's complete projection screen samples package (19 different screen samples in all), which even includes the 3d black and silver screen samples, also the transparent rear projection screen samples...I plan on purchasing perhaps the HIGH POWER 2.4 gain screen, will test the iSival thoroughly tonight on many of these samples, might post shots and videos comparing it to my standard 1.0 gain screen. The High Contrast Cinema Vision also looks like a good match for the iSival...It should boost contrast levels, that is lower the blacks while imaintaining or even improving the white levels... Excited to see the results.

Update...
Tested about half the samples, I really like the High Power 2.4. it is really bright, seems too bright to be honest, but I didn't calibrate the image for it so that maybe why.. One suprise is the DaLite MATTE WHITE 1.0 screen is sightly brighter than my current MATTE WHITE screen, didn't expect that. The CINEMA VISION HIGH CONTRAST GREY 1.5 does indeed offer better blacks but the whites were not maintained, they dimmed a bit.. I'm not sure if the projector's placement has to do with this, it's not in the direct path of the screen. and some of the screens are retro reflective so i should set it up properly to judge..I just didn't have enough time lately..I will do alot more testing before making a decision.
post #135 of 154
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Originally Posted by Heeman View Post

I just received the Da-Lite Screen Company's complete projection screen samples package (19 different screen samples in all), which even includes the 3d black and silver screen samples, also the transparent rear projection screen samples...I plan on purchasing perhaps the HIGH POWER 2.4 gain screen, will test the iSival thoroughly tonight on many of these samples, might post shots and videos comparing it to my standard 1.0 gain screen. The High Contrast Cinema Vision also looks like a good match for the iSival...It should boost contrast levels, that is lower the blacks while maintaining or even improving the white levels... Excited to see the results.

You can't boost contrast with a screen, unless you are using it to drown out ambient light. You may perceive it as more contrast, but it's impossible to boost it.

Doesn't a 2.4 gain screen require a completely blacked out room? The high gain screens look great to me, but my contrast ratio is 100x better, and that's natively.
post #136 of 154
After about 2 months of service my AAXA M2 has stopped working. I suspect it is a fan issue. It will be going back to the manufacturer on the 3 and I will keep you posted!
post #137 of 154
I got the Isival and it works great so far. i have it projecting to 80" 16:9 on a epson screen.

So far the thing that i dont like is the rainbox effect. its pretty bad when playing xbox so far i found. I didnt get to play around with anything yet but playing call of duty on it was rough. everytime i went to move quikcly and look around i would get the rainbow effect to the point it gave me a headache. is there anyway to fix this???

While wathcing movies however i did not notice any rainbow effect at all. so far it is just with the xbox. Maybe there is a setting tweak i need to do? Any suggestions??

ps: Sorry to hear bear, that sucks. Hopefully they replace it asap.
post #138 of 154
yea that thing is not dlp, its lcos leading me to think the whole rbe is more suggestion than fact.
post #139 of 154
Or there is something other you are seeing other than the rbe effect.
post #140 of 154
Thread Starter 
The rainbow effect you are seeing has to do with the LCOS chip itseft in the iSival, it's not the cycling of the RED GREEN BLUE LED at all according to the projectorcentral review website. It's not really a rainbow it's more an edge trailing color shifting effect..It's seems most obvious in First Person Shooter videogames when the entire screen is quickly rotated or you make sudden quick jerky movements..other types of games such as racing games for example it's not really evident.. Also even between different FPS games, some don't show the problem to the extent of others..One thing is for sure, it seems that games performing at and sustaining 60 frames per second, that is matching the isival's refresh rate and in V-Sync being on show it much less or barely at all...so this suggests it could be a source setup issue...What is your connection? HDMI?
post #141 of 154
I have it connected thru VGA since my xbox model doesnt have hdmi.
it is the edge trailing thing u said. in movies u see it a lil but u forget about it and dont notice it. but with FPS games its very distracting

the projector is still great as ive set it up in my room and use it just for movies anyways, i think im going to keep the xbox downstairs, but i wuda liked to have played some games on it
post #142 of 154
also, when i was watching a movie, when it was dark scenes, the dark parts were very blocky and pixely. I thought it was just the copy of the movie but when i played it on a normal tv it didnt show up. so i dont know if its because its a regualr quality movie on a HD projector or becuase its 80" and its just more noticable, but on the tv i didnt really notice it at all. when i watched it on my screen teh darks would go almost greenish, anytime there were dark scenes it was pretty much hard to watch. is there a way to fix this?

what are the best settings to have this machine on. anyone who has had time to tweak it. right now id like the best settings for movie watching,

thanks
post #143 of 154
ps: what video player is the best to be playing video right now for this projector? ive been using VLC. which has the most options i can tweak to make it better.

im thinkin about getting a blue ray in hope that that will look better.

thanks.
post #144 of 154
Thread Starter 
Low quality video files will show much more noise, or blocks which will be very obvious in dark scenes..True hi def content gets rid of that problem. If you are seeing too much green in dark spots it's because you have the brighntess set too low, raise it up a notch and increase the contrast a bit in VLC player...I use VLC player and especialy PowerDVD because it lets you create custom profiles for all your video tweaks. I played and finished many FPS games on my iSival..The little color shifting effect I see I got used to it, so it doesn't bother me...plus you might be seeing more as you are using a different setup..I game on my PC which in turn is connected through my videocard's 4850x2 HDMi port at 1280x720@60 hertz. Make sure you select 720p on your xbox. Also have you tried projecting bigger than 80inches yet? I narrowed down my new screen choice to either 106inches or 120inches..The problem with 120 is it might be too big where I will be sitting, I might get that tennis match watching effect were I might have to move my head more during viewing..I might still get the 120 and use black masking to project less size then eventually remove it when I relocate the projection setup.
post #145 of 154
ya i seemed to have reducded the blocky and patchy dark issues. went and tweaked alot of my settings and im pretty darn happy with it now.
ill give the xbox another shot sometime but for now ill just use it for movies.

as for bigger then 80, i havent yet. right now ive got an 80 inch screen im borrowing till my 120 gets in. but where i am the 80 works large enought for sure or else there would be the tennis match effect. but i say u can never go to big!

when the new screen gets in in a few weeks ill let u know how 120 turned out.

how is blu ray with this projector? i really wana get one to get my quality higher.

also, i really hate this remote. its almost useless. i have to walk up to the machine to use it anyways. but its easier then using the 4 buttons on the actual machine so it has use.

overall tho, im happy i got this projector. it does what i want.

i will prob be getting the qumi when it comes out after if it recieves postive reviews and ill jsut sell this one. i got it for a deal so i should be able to sell it for an ok price. but so far im very happy with it ., its not perfect but for 400 its def good enuff for the job
post #146 of 154
Thread Starter 
Yes the remote is not that good..I normally point it towards the projector lens in front and it works that way as well instead of pointing it towards the back of the projector.
post #147 of 154
The broken AAXA M2 has been replaced and the new one has a much quieter fan on it. I suspect the fan on the first one was bad to begin with hence why it was so loud and stopped working after 2 months)! Again, I am please with the quality for the PRICE and the long life of the bulb. However, if the build quality is not good enough to last more then a few months, well that kind of defeats the whole long life bulb advantage! (I would then be better off with a regular XGA 3000 hour bulb DLP projector)!

As always, will keep you posted!
post #148 of 154
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Originally Posted by taz1319 View Post

also, when i was watching a movie, when it was dark scenes, the dark parts were very blocky and pixely. I thought it was just the copy of the movie but when i played it on a normal tv it didnt show up. so i dont know if its because its a regualr quality movie on a HD projector or becuase its 80" and its just more noticable, but on the tv i didnt really notice it at all. when i watched it on my screen teh darks would go almost greenish, anytime there were dark scenes it was pretty much hard to watch. is there a way to fix this?

what are the best settings to have this machine on. anyone who has had time to tweak it. right now id like the best settings for movie watching,

thanks

That blotchiness might be the Isival's lack of contrast ratio. It means it can NOT create the necessary shades of grey within that particular shadow detail area. I sometimes get that on my Samsung 46" LCD TV in dark scenes that SHOULD have many grades of shadow in the image detail. I don't get it with the AAXA M2 - it seems to have a lot of shadow detail. It must be the 2000:1 contrast ratio that is achieving it.
post #149 of 154
As far as the AAXA M2 and rainbow effect there is some but it is very, very minor and not at all distracting during normal viewing. Now, I am not doing any gaming on the projector; the PJ it is used just for HD TV viewing off satellite and watching regular DVD's through my non-blu-ray player. I still can't achieve the correct aspect ratio with my Magnovox blu-ray player - but I suspect it is the player's lack of options that might be the problem since every other source I have tried, including my DISH HD PVR and a regular HDMI up-converting DVD, seems to have at least one aspect ratio option that works just fine! I do wish the M2 had been native 16x9 as the iSival is though!
post #150 of 154
thanks for the review.

does this isival projector support audio input without separate audio cable while using hdmi?
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