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post #10321 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

If you have guest access properly set up on the serving machine, you don't need a password.

I'm on an XP machine and the guest user can only be turned on and off. I turned it on before and it didn't work, still doesn't give me access. Just tried it again and same result.
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You can go that way or just set up access for "Everyone" in both sharing permissions and NTFS permissions. Instead of entering a password, you just hit enter.

I've set up access for Everyone as well before. Tried to just hit enter also, but same result.

What about the NTFS permissions? Can you tell me where I can find those on XP and how I should set them?
post #10322 of 10805
Hi Deck,
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Originally Posted by ADeckOfCards View Post

What about the NTFS permissions? Can you tell me where I can find those on XP and how I should set them?
As rdgrimes said, there are two sets of permissions, and they both need to either allow "Guest" (with the "Guest" account enabled) or "Everyone" (which I'm not sure will always work).

The first set of permissions is accessed by right-clicking on the folder and selecting "Properties". Then in the dialog box, select the "Security" tab. This is where you would set the NTFS permissions.

Then switch to the "Sharing" tab. "Share this Folder" should be selected and a share name defined. Click on the "Permissions" button to set the permissions for the share.

As I said earlier, using "Everyone" will not always work. "Everyone" refers to every user-account that is enabled on the system, and not just anyone. So you would still need to put an account-name and password into the Dune. "Guest" is what I use, because my XP machines have no users defined besides the local administrator account.

Also, Dune does not support domain users (it acts like they don't exist). But Dune seems to support the "guest" account without having to explicitly enter it. So this is what I would do:

In user manager, enable the "guest" account.
In the folder's Properties->Security page, give "read" access to "guest".
In the folder's Properties->Sharing page, under Permissions, give "read" access to "guest".

If that doesn't work, I'm at a loss to what might be wrong.
post #10323 of 10805
Hi- i just got an HD Dune 3D and am having problems getting a 3D movie to play. I used DVDfab (mac version 9.0.4.1), to copy the 3D blu ray. I copied it as a BD50 so it's in BDMV. I made sure to select "Copy as Blu-ray 3D" in the copy screen. Are there any settings on the Dune that I need or do you think this is a problem with the way I copied the movie?
post #10324 of 10805
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Originally Posted by hoops2 View Post

Hi- i just got an HD Dune 3D and am having problems getting a 3D movie to play. I used DVDfab (mac version 9.0.4.1), to copy the 3D blu ray. I copied it as a BD50 so it's in BDMV. I made sure to select "Copy as Blu-ray 3D" in the copy screen. Are there any settings on the Dune that I need or do you think this is a problem with the way I copied the movie?
For the 3D model try posting here instead:

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1460594/official-dune-hd-tv303d-base-3d-streamer-thread/450#post_23478702

Also, I would rip your 3D Blu rays to ISO (I am guessing that is what you have but wasn't sure if you just have it laid out as a folder rip)
post #10325 of 10805
Ok everyone. Have a zappiti question. I'm nearing completion of my build on server two and was wondering about how to go about moving my zappiti database. I have found the links indicating the folders that need to be copied over, but still have some questions. When I move to the new server, do the drive names need to be the same as on the old server? In example, does drive "media2" need to stay as the same name/path at the new server or will zappiti rescan that info. What I truly want to retain is all the metadata, especially since the are quite a few movies where I had to manually type all info and download the cover art etc. any thoughts?
post #10326 of 10805
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Originally Posted by alexsquared View Post

Ok everyone. Have a zappiti question. I'm nearing completion of my build on server two and was wondering about how to go about moving my zappiti database. I have found the links indicating the folders that need to be copied over, but still have some questions. When I move to the new server, do the drive names need to be the same as on the old server? In example, does drive "media2" need to stay as the same name/path at the new server or will zappiti rescan that info. What I truly want to retain is all the metadata, especially since the are quite a few movies where I had to manually type all info and download the cover art etc. any thoughts?

I think this will answer your question. The path to the database I believe can change. When you t
Run the Zapptiti software, you just need to change the path to the database and re-open (I think).

The path to all of your movies can't change or it will not be able to find them and it will need to re-scrape.
post #10327 of 10805
Zappiti export problem

All, sorry for the cross post. I originally intended to post in this thread but had a brain fart and put it in one level up. Not having any luck getting replies there, so will try here.

Windows7 (64 bit)
Dune Smart B1 with Firmware 121018_0846
Synology DS410 NAS
Zappiti v2.8.5.0

Have been using the Dune to stream off of the NAS for quite a while with no problems. Running SMB, not NFS. Do not have any problems accessing NAS from PC using Windows Explorer.

Directory structure on the NAS is
\\DISKSTATION\Movies\... Mapped as drive W: on the PC (Currently 853 movies)
\\DISKSTATION\TV-Shows\... Mapped as drive X: on the PC
\\DISKSTATION\Photos\... Mapped as drive Y: on the PC
\\DISKSTATION\Music\... Mapped as drive Z: on the PC

All of the directories have subs but as of now I am only working with the Movies directory. There are 17 catagory subdirectories under Movies. Each catagory has a separate subdirectory for each movie within the catagory. Movies are all ripped to file structure, movie only.

Example - \\DISKSTATION\Movies\Comedy\Repo Man\Video TS\..files..

Recently installed Zappiti and am having export problems. Originally thought that it was because I had not registered my Dune with the Zappiti folks. I sent in an email with a copy of my receipt for the Dune and telling them I had export problems. Received a reply that registration is not necessary with the current version of Zappiti and my problem had to be something else. Now, I am pretty sure it is a path problem.

I have a read only guest account on the NAS that is used for our second PC and the Dune. My PC is set up to log into the Admin account on the NAS. I always log into the NAS before trying to use Zappiti.

Zappiti was able to scrape nearly all of the movies. The ones it could not scrape were not listed on TMDB. As a side question, is Zappiti still having problems with IMDB? I did not have any luck scraping from there. Anyway, since Zappiti successfully scraped, that means that it was able to read from the NAS. The problem comes in when I try to export. I have tried several export path definitions but I always end up with one of the two following results.

1. A small dialog that says - Configure the share path to continue
2. A message window that pops up immediately after pressing export, that says - Complete - Your entire collection is exported. When this happens, there is nothing exported.

I attached two screenshots. The first shows some of my path definitions and the second shows what I have tried for export paths. The second has various attempts that I copied and pasted into the bottom of the pic. The NAS IP is 192.168.1.4 and everything on the network is static, no DHCP.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I think I will really enjoy Zappiti once I get everything ironed out.

TIA
Charlie

EDIT - Should add that I want the Zappiti files to reside in the Movies directory.



Edited by CD_in_NM - 7/8/13 at 11:40pm
post #10328 of 10805
It looks like the destination/export path is wrong. I think you want it to be on the nas. Looks like you have yours set to export to the dune? I use yaDIS with a nas and my export is \\*nas*\blurays\yaDIS that is where i export and the dune grabs the info when i open yaDIS on the dune.

That's my guess anyway. I could be wrong.
post #10329 of 10805
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

It looks like the destination/export path is wrong. I think you want it to be on the nas. Looks like you have yours set to export to the dune? I use yaDIS with a nas and my export is \\*nas*\blurays\yaDIS that is where i export and the dune grabs the info when i open yaDIS on the dune.

That's my guess anyway. I could be wrong.

Actually, //DISKSTATION/Movies, //192.168.1.4/Movies and W:\ (mapped on the PC) all point to the Movies directory on the NAS. After seeing your reply, I tried adding a Zappiti subdirectory under Movies and pointing the export path at the Zappiti directory. Unfortunately, same result - small dialog saying Configure share path to continue.
post #10330 of 10805
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

It looks like the destination/export path is wrong. I think you want it to be on the nas. Looks like you have yours set to export to the dune? I use yaDIS with a nas and my export is \\*nas*\blurays\yaDIS that is where i export and the dune grabs the info when i open yaDIS on the dune.

That's my guess anyway. I could be wrong.

Update

Windows7 (64 bit)
Dune Smart B1 with Firmware 121018_0846
Synology DS410 NAS
Zappiti v2.8.7.1

OK, could not work on this for a few days, but now I am back at it. It finally got through my thick skull what you were trying to tell me. I misunderstood what the "I have a Zappiti Player / a Dune HD" selection was for.

New info since the last post.

v2.8.7.1 was posted on the Zappiti site, so I upgraded from 2.8.5.0. Zappiti created a database for the new version when installed.

I have wiped all of the original mapping. When the setup wizard runs, I select only W:\ (this is how \\Diskstation\Movies is mapped on the PC). When the "Which devices do you have?" page opens, I do NOT select anything. This finishes the initial config.

When I click export the "Path selection" window opens. At the same time, Zappiti drops a dune_folder.txt file into the \\Diskstation\Movies directory. This indicates that Zappiti can write to the NAS. The file is a storage_name definition with an apparently random name.

After this, I have tried both selections, "On a NAS server, ..." and "Custom". I have tried every path definition I can think of, but it always ends the same. As soon as I finish the definition, Zappiti immediately opens a window indicating a successful export, but nothing has been exported to the NAS.

Charlie
post #10331 of 10805
Have you tried contacting zappiti? I remember having a similar "empty export" with it when i tried it, i switched to yaDIS and my headaches are gone.
post #10332 of 10805
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

Have you tried contacting zappiti? I remember having a similar "empty export" with it when i tried it, i switched to yaDIS and my headaches are gone.

Contacted them early on. The reply said to sign up for an account on their English forum. Entered the required info, but have not received the confirmation email to finish enrollment.

Also tried to set up an account with the MPC forums about a week ago. No confirmation email from them either.

Not having much luck with other forums.
post #10333 of 10805
Looking or some help with a strange glitch in my D1.

This weekend I bought a new TV which allowed me to go to 12 bit color. Last night we watched a video, everything was working fine. I shut everything down and a few hours later turned everything back on. What came up was a "video or a not supported" error on the TV. Nothing new had been changed in the settings since using 12 big color he day before. I rolled it back to 480i using the button at the top of the remote. The video came on, but everything has a strong green cast to it (not jus a tint, everything is green). When you start a video and should have a black screen it is a solid bright green screen. It does is in every video mode I tried (1080p, 1080i, 720p. This is all at 8 bit color. When I went back to 1080p at 12 bit color, it gives me the same video format not supported error. This setting worked fine over the weekend.

I verified its not the cables, or ports on my processor that has gone bad by swapping things around with positions and cables I knew were working fine. I also did a hard restart and even did a firmware upgrade, no luck. I was on the latest stable firmware when this happened and went to a newer beta, but can't tell you the numbers where I am situated. I changed all my settings to use component video / 1080i and optical which work fine. No color issues.

So it's feeling like something suddenly failed in he unit. However the recent change to 12 bit color with that setting totally not working now makes me wonder if it is somehow connected. The only other thing that may be worth mentioning is I had noticed on some movies a little bump in the otherwise smooth video motion. It was happening every 30-60 seconds I think. I am pretty sure this started before changing to 12 bit color but not 100% on that. I did verify that motion bump only occurred with the dune, but my blu ray player or the cable box. I was trouble shooting this when I turned everything back on with a recreated video file, but obviously never got the chance.

Any thoughts? I am now out of town for a few days, but trying to figure out what direction to go when I get back. I will probably give Mike a call at Duneplayer later today and see what he thinks. This was one of the earliest D1 production units so I am pretty sure I am past 2 years.

Thanks for any insight!
post #10334 of 10805
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Originally Posted by TODDAVS View Post

Looking or some help with a strange glitch in my D1.

This weekend I bought a new TV which allowed me to go to 12 bit color. Last night we watched a video, everything was working fine. I shut everything down and a few hours later turned everything back on. What came up was a "video or a not supported" error on the TV. Nothing new had been changed in the settings since using 12 big color he day before. I rolled it back to 480i using the button at the top of the remote. The video came on, but everything has a strong green cast to it (not jus a tint, everything is green). When you start a video and should have a black screen it is a solid bright green screen. It does is in every video mode I tried (1080p, 1080i, 720p. This is all at 8 bit color. When I went back to 1080p at 12 bit color, it gives me the same video format not supported error. This setting worked fine over the weekend.

I verified its not the cables, or ports on my processor that has gone bad by swapping things around with positions and cables I knew were working fine. I also did a hard restart and even did a firmware upgrade, no luck. I was on the latest stable firmware when this happened and went to a newer beta, but can't tell you the numbers where I am situated. I changed all my settings to use component video / 1080i and optical which work fine. No color issues.

So it's feeling like something suddenly failed in he unit. However the recent change to 12 bit color with that setting totally not working now makes me wonder if it is somehow connected. The only other thing that may be worth mentioning is I had noticed on some movies a little bump in the otherwise smooth video motion. It was happening every 30-60 seconds I think. I am pretty sure this started before changing to 12 bit color but not 100% on that. I did verify that motion bump only occurred with the dune, but my blu ray player or the cable box. I was trouble shooting this when I turned everything back on with a recreated video file, but obviously never got the chance.

Any thoughts? I am now out of town for a few days, but trying to figure out what direction to go when I get back. I will probably give Mike a call at Duneplayer later today and see what he thinks. This was one of the earliest D1 production units so I am pretty sure I am past 2 years.

Thanks for any insight!

I had a similar problem:
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Originally Posted by jkbs View Post

I have a strange problem with my Max. When I play a blu ray disc, everything is fine. The menu has a strong green cast, and when I play network files, they also have a green cast. I made several changes at once. I am running through a new receiver (yamaha RCA 3000), went from component to hdmi, and updated firmware. Any ideas on how to fix this? TIA.

And this worked for me:
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Originally Posted by jkbs View Post

Changing output colorspace under advanced video settings from auto to rgb full seems to have fixed this.
post #10335 of 10805
A bright green screen is a classic color space handshake failure issue, where the display is expecting one color space but receives another. (RGB vs YCbCr). Hot pink screen is the opposite case.
Often the issue can be resolved with a setting in the display, but some displays need to be told what they are receiving. It has nothing to do with 12 bit color (Deep Color) per se, but sometimes sending 12 bit will cause handshakes to get messed up.

There's NO compelling reason to try to send 12 bit color from the Dune. First, because no current sources of HD video have 12 bit color, and second because the Dune does not have the video processing prowess needed to re-sample 8 bit to 12 in a way that's even remotely useful. In short; it can create problems and offers nothing.

The settings in the Dune for color space are confusing at best, and there are a number of possible ways to mess it up. But the settings in the display are equally important - it needs to be able to handle whatever is sent.
post #10336 of 10805
Hi Todd,

This is likely unrelated to your color-space problem.
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Originally Posted by TODDAVS View Post

. . . The only other thing that may be worth mentioning is I had noticed on some movies a little bump in the otherwise smooth video motion. It was happening every 30-60 seconds I think.
This sounds like the normal frame-rate issue: Playing a 23.97 fps movie at 24 fps, or visa-versa. If the bump occurs every 42 second approximately, then the frame-rate setting in the Dune is not correct (I have mine set to "Auto").
post #10337 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

A bright green screen is a classic color space handshake failure issue, where the display is expecting one color space but receives another. (RGB vs YCbCr). Hot pink screen is the opposite case.
Often the issue can be resolved with a setting in the display, but some displays need to be told what they are receiving. It has nothing to do with 12 bit color (Deep Color) per se, but sometimes sending 12 bit will cause handshakes to get messed up.

There's NO compelling reason to try to send 12 bit color from the Dune. First, because no current sources of HD video have 12 bit color, and second because the Dune does not have the video processing prowess needed to re-sample 8 bit to 12 in a way that's even remotely useful. In short; it can create problems and offers nothing.

The settings in the Dune for color space are confusing at best, and there are a number of possible ways to mess it up. But the settings in the display are equally important - it needs to be able to handle whatever is sent.

One of the few gripes I have ever had with my Dune player is that it forces 4:4:4 colorspace. I prefer to have my source output 4:2:2 and then let the video processer (DVDO, Lumagen, etc.) do the conversion to 4:4:4 for the projector.
post #10338 of 10805
Can someone post the region free patch for the dune smart firmwares? I want to modify my H1/D1 but I cannot register on mpc club because the site doesn't send out emails anymore (hence cannot finish registration). I tried the link rdgrimes posted in this thread but I think that may have been prior to avs' update so it's broken also. Would very much appreciate this thanks.
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post #10340 of 10805
Thanks so much rdgrimes, will give this a whirl later today. =)
post #10341 of 10805
Zappiti now has an app for Android!wink.gif
post #10342 of 10805
DMC on android is compatible with any jukebox since its beginning. wink.gif
post #10343 of 10805
rdgrimes, wanted to thank you again for posting that. Patch works great.
post #10344 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

DMC on android is compatible with any jukebox since its beginning. wink.gif

Including yaDIS?
post #10345 of 10805
yep...

yadis, zapp, mymovies, dunex,MyDuneMusicHD, DuneMusicManager or whatever jukebox outputting a dune export folder using dune_folder.txt. For music jukebox like MDMHD or DMM this means that you can perfectly play music files without turning on your TV, just using your android device.

basically DMC is just a dune_folder.txt reader, it simply emulates a dune system on android and is able to launch the file. that's all (easy to say but not so easy to do biggrin.gif ). I never tested it (don't have an android device) but everybody says it's great and Babachan, the man behind DMC, is doing a great support over Mpcclub.
post #10346 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

yep...

yadis, zapp, mymovies, dunex,MyDuneMusicHD, DuneMusicManager or whatever jukebox outputting a dune export folder using dune_folder.txt. For music jukebox like MDMHD or DMM this means that you can perfectly play music files without turning on your TV, just using your android device.

basically DMC is just a dune_folder.txt reader, it simply emulates a dune system on android and is able to launch the file. that's all (easy to say but not so easy to do biggrin.gif ). I never tested it (don't have an android device) but everybody says it's great and Babachan, the man behind DMC, is doing a great support over Mpcclub.

Thanks for the info... I see an Android device in my future cool.gif
post #10347 of 10805
For a week or so I am getting prompted to upgrade my firmware on my Dune Smart D1. I am not quite sure the version number but it ends with “b6”. That means it is a beta version right? Strange thing is I have it set to ignore beta versions. Has anybody done it? Is it worth upgrading?
post #10348 of 10805
I tried installing that one on 2 different dune units and it suddenly wouldn't play several mkv files and had other weird things pop up. I went back to the last one that worked.

Larry
post #10349 of 10805
B6 worked for my D1 and TV303D.
post #10350 of 10805
+1 b6 is stable on my d1.
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