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post #10741 of 10812
the Zappiti incremental update to the file server is updating files (and only updating new files/directories so it is usually pretty fast after the first time around). Then it is up to the Dune and the Zapp app on it to display the files correctly. For me, there is no delay other than the Dune file export, which is reasonable.
post #10742 of 10812
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Originally Posted by SeldomSeen31 View Post

I have never done it any other way so not sure if it is "slow" but it seems to be ready by the time the Dune boots. I get a very brief black screen but with my remote triggering the TV, AVR and Dune to turn on and switch inputs by the time everything is ready the Zappitti main menu is there.

Do you simply put a zappiti folder in your movie share and then point the zappiti configuration to that folder? I was thinking there would be time that the server would need to spin up, causing a delay in movie wall display.
post #10743 of 10812
I have it auto launch in to Zappitti and the folder is simply in my movie share on the unraid box. I don't notice any real delay from boot up. The drive does have to spin up but by the time eveything else is on and ready zappitti is too.
post #10744 of 10812
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Originally Posted by SeldomSeen31 View Post

I have it auto launch in to Zappitti and the folder is simply in my movie share on the unraid box. I don't notice any real delay from boot up. The drive does have to spin up but by the time eveything else is on and ready zappitti is too.

Sounds good. Thanks.... I'm setting it up now.
post #10745 of 10812
So, I've seen several Dune Smart Series media players for sale for a while. It appears they aren't selling as they used to. I was thinking of selling my Dune D1 since my family and I do not use it as much anymore. I'm thinking of going the HTPC route since my wife watches a lot of her shows her laptop and connects it to the TV. So, may be the HTPC would be an all in one type of thing.

So, since the sale for the Dune Smart Series have slowed down, I'm thinking of asking for a trade of i5 + MOBO combo. What do you guys think? biggrin.gif
post #10746 of 10812
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

So, I've seen several Dune Smart Series media players for sale for a while. It appears they aren't selling as they used to. I was thinking of selling my Dune D1 since my family and I do not use it as much anymore. I'm thinking of going the HTPC route since my wife watches a lot of her shows her laptop and connects it to the TV. So, may be the HTPC would be an all in one type of thing.

So, since the sale for the Dune Smart Series have slowed down, I'm thinking of asking for a trade of i5 + MOBO combo. What do you guys think? biggrin.gif

I personally would not switch back to HTPC until all the Dunes are dead and I can't find any new/used ones to buy. There is just no comparison in the ease of use with the Dunes in the HTPC world. Spend a couple of days setting up an HTPC and you will see why the Dunes are so much better. The WAF is much better on due to the ease of of turning on the Dune (if you even turn it off) and just push play. The HTPC has to be turned on and in some case have to wait till everything is loaded for it to be able to play.
post #10747 of 10812
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I personally would not switch back to HTPC until all the Dunes are dead and I can't find any new/used ones to buy. There is just no comparison in the ease of use with the Dunes in the HTPC world. Spend a couple of days setting up an HTPC and you will see why the Dunes are so much better. The WAF is much better on due to the ease of of turning on the Dune (if you even turn it off) and just push play. The HTPC has to be turned on and in some case have to wait till everything is loaded for it to be able to play.

If I went back to an HTPC I would just look at one of the Intel NUV solutions running XBMC (OpenElec). That seems like it would be the closest to getting back to a pure media player (like a Dune, etc...). However, there is reason why I got rid of most of my HTPCs and replaced with Dunes biggrin.gif
post #10748 of 10812
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

If I went back to an HTPC I would just look at one of the Intel NUV solutions running XBMC (OpenElec). That seems like it would be the closest to getting back to a pure media player (like a Dune, etc...). However, there is reason why I got rid of most of my HTPCs and replaced with Dunes biggrin.gif

I have been looking at OpenElec for a while now and once the NUCs are fully supported I may get one. Those i5 NUCs are really sweet looking.

You know my requirements... it must handle MKV+FLAC+PGS or GTFO.
post #10749 of 10812
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

I have been looking at OpenElec for a while now and once the NUCs are fully supported I may get one. Those i5 NUCs are really sweet looking.

You know my requirements... it must handle MKV+FLAC+PGS or GTFO.

I use my Dune in the theater where I have 7.1 sound but run OpenElec on a couple of barbone Arctic MC0001 PCs to stream movies to stereo only TVs. The Dune is more utilitarian but just works, it does require a PC for me to use Zappitti which gets closer to what XBMC offers as far as front end appearance.

Those Arctics aren't around anymore which is a bummer (glad I bought a 2nd when I did) as $130 is a pretty unbeatable price, paid $99 for the units and added a stick of laptop memory and a USB flash drive to run the OS. The processor in them won't do lossless audio codecs but decodes to stereo perfectly. The GUI runs a bit smoother than it did on my attempt to get it going on a raspberry pi which is cheaper still.

The Dune is still the go to device for reference viewing for sure.
post #10750 of 10812
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

I have been looking at OpenElec for a while now and once the NUCs are fully supported I may get one. Those i5 NUCs are really sweet looking.

You know my requirements... it must handle MKV+FLAC+PGS or GTFO.

I am running XBMC on my Tablet/Laptop hybrid to see if I can get comfortable with. Haven't really tested the subtitle or audio features yet (except for some nagging subtitles issues, but prob more just not spending time yet in the settings). Right now I just prefer to go with the "If it ain't broken than don't fix it approach" which means the Dunes will continue to be my go to players.
post #10751 of 10812
I agree. You will have to pry my Dune from my cold dead hands before I switch but I am also making preparations in case Dunes go bye-bye (which I doubt very much).

The NUCs are the only option I would even consider as a Dune replacement...if they pass my tests.
post #10752 of 10812
GusGus's question indirectly raises an interesting point. I agree with everyone that I'll not be replacing a Dune with a HTPC, but recently I have been watching a lot more video via the net than from my Dune.

Back when we all started buying Dunes there were no very good ways of streaming videos, so we essentially set up our own streaming services. We collected videos and watched them at our convenience. Since then our options for streaming have increased dramatically. You can cut the cable cord and and still have more good stuff to watch then there are hours in the day.

My thought is that there still is a place for devices like my Dune HD, but whereas it was once my primary video viewing device, it has joined my Blu-Ray player and become more of a secondary device. It will be interesting to see what happens once .h265 encoding and 4K video become the norm. Will we be able to buy 4K Dunes? I sure hope so! smile.gif
post #10753 of 10812
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

I agree. You will have to pry my Dune from my cold dead hands before I switch but I am also making preparations in case Dunes go bye-bye (which I doubt very much).

The NUCs are the only option I would even consider as a Dune replacement...if they pass my tests.

An HTPC can function just the same if you take the initial time to set it up correctly in the fist place. Which means make sure remote commands map out in any type of players you are using. So if you xbmc front end and use mpc-hc with madvr just make sure all remote commands map out and match say if you use powerdvd for iso files and so fourth you can get a good solution with waf factor
post #10754 of 10812
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

GusGus's question indirectly raises an interesting point. I agree with everyone that I'll not be replacing a Dune with a HTPC, but recently I have been watching a lot more video via the net than from my Dune.

Back when we all started buying Dunes there were no very good ways of streaming videos, so we essentially set up our own streaming services. We collected videos and watched them at our convenience. Since then our options for streaming have increased dramatically. You can cut the cable cord and and still have more good stuff to watch then there are hours in the day.

My thought is that there still is a place for devices like my Dune HD, but whereas it was once my primary video viewing device, it has joined my Blu-Ray player and become more of a secondary device. It will be interesting to see what happens once .h265 encoding and 4K video become the norm. Will we be able to buy 4K Dunes? I sure hope so! smile.gif

I agree. We have found ourselves watching more tv shows than movies. So we started watching them on Netflix. Then my wife started telling me about other t. Shows she watches on Hulu free edition online. We listen to Pandora a lot as well, and I know Pandora offers better quality for PCs.

I understand what everyone else is saying that the Dunes are excellent at playing movies, but they can only do one thing. We want an all in one option and so far HTPC is the only way.
post #10755 of 10812
GusGus, I'm using a Roku3 for 99.9% of my streaming. It is the size of a hockey puck, is very easy to use, and its capabilities augment my Dune nicely. One of the things I like with the Roku is that it supports Amazon Prime. Another consideration would be getting a NETGEAR Push2TV Wireless Display HDMI Adapter (with Miracast) to use with Kindle Fire HDX or other supported device (which includes many laptops, smartphones and the like). I've not tried the any of the Miracast devices so I've no idea how well they work, but they look interesting.
post #10756 of 10812
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GusGus, I'm using a Roku3 for 99.9% of my streaming. It is the size of a hockey puck, is very easy to use, and its capabilities augment my Dune nicely. One of the things I like with the Roku is that it supports Amazon Prime. Another consideration would be getting a NETGEAR Push2TV Wireless Display HDMI Adapter (with Miracast) to use with Kindle Fire HDX or other supported device (which includes many laptops, smartphones and the like). I've not tried the any of the Miracast devices so I've no idea how well they work, but they look interesting.

I've tried the Roku. I didn't like it. It has the worse Plex UI.
post #10757 of 10812
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Originally Posted by halfelite View Post

An HTPC can function just the same if you take the initial time to set it up correctly in the fist place. Which means make sure remote commands map out in any type of players you are using. So if you xbmc front end and use mpc-hc with madvr just make sure all remote commands map out and match say if you use powerdvd for iso files and so fourth you can get a good solution with waf factor

The key word is "can", doesn't mean it will wink.gif
post #10758 of 10812
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

I've tried the Roku. I didn't like it. It has the worse Plex UI.
Agreed about Plex. The strength of the Roku is streaming content over the internet. The strength of the Dune is playing videos from your own video collection over your network.
post #10759 of 10812
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Agreed about Plex. The strength of the Roku is streaming content over the internet. The strength of the Dune is playing videos from your own video collection over your network.

I don't want to keep adding more devices. If I wanted that I would use the apps from my smart TV.
post #10760 of 10812
Is there a way to playback PAL (25fps) videos & dvd's? I have some DVD & MKV rips of some movies & shows from India that are in PAL / 25fps format. They don't seem to play; give an error "This resolution is not supported".

Thanks!
post #10761 of 10812
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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

Is there a way to playback PAL (25fps) videos & dvd's? I have some DVD & MKV rips of some movies & shows from India that are in PAL / 25fps format. They don't seem to play; give an error "This resolution is not supported".

Thanks!

Make sure your frame rate is set to 24/50/60 if your set allows 50hz and 24/60 if it does not.
post #10762 of 10812
What should one set the video mode at? I have mine set to 1080p 59.94Hz. Obviously my PJ is 1080p, my question is more about the Hz part.

Got the Dune working with Zappiti again. Now that I've added system storage all disks work great with the exception of T2, but that's a known problem disc.

Funny, without system storage a lot of discs wouldn't play. I guess the funny thing is I never had system storage or ran into any issues until recently. And on of all movies 'the help' rolleyes.gif

I really tried to make the Netgear work for the big screen but it's just not as smooth as Zappiti.

One thing I learned about the Netgear is that it only starts to freeze if you pile tons of .ISOs and .TAG files with album art in one folder. If you separate it all out into individual folders it rarely freezes.
post #10763 of 10812
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Originally Posted by pdxrealtor View Post

What should one set the video mode at? I have mine set to 1080p 59.94Hz. Obviously my PJ is 1080p, my question is more about the Hz part.
Whatever gives you the smoothest playback without stutter/jumping, etc. You have to experiment with the full range to see which one give the best results on your TV.
I find on my TV 30hz seems to work best for everything except 25hz material- so when I get 25hz stuff I reset the Dune to 25hz and playback is smooth. When I go back to 24hz/29hz material I set the Dune back to 30hz again. Every TV is different and it also depends on if you have the TV's "motion control" on and to which degree (high/med/low) it's set at. I leave "motion control" off cause I don't like the "soap opera' effect it produces so that's why I have to set the Dune's playback rate for different files from time to time.
post #10764 of 10812
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

Is there a way to playback PAL (25fps) videos & dvd's? I have some DVD & MKV rips of some movies & shows from India that are in PAL / 25fps format. They don't seem to play; give an error "This resolution is not supported".

Thanks!

Make sure your frame rate is set to 24/50/60 if your set allows 50hz and 24/60 if it does not.

Frame rate on the Dune or my TV?
post #10765 of 10812
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Originally Posted by mickey79 View Post

Frame rate on the Dune or my TV?

On your Dune. I think it's under video. Like I said, if your TV can handle 50hz then you set the Dune to 24/50/60. If your TV cannot handle 50hz natively then set it to 24/60 and the Dune will speed up all 25fps(50hz) up to 60hz but you will get higher pitched voices.

My old RPTV DLP could NOT do 50hz so I just forced the Dune to do 60hz and it worked fine with all PAL stuff.
post #10766 of 10812
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

On your Dune. I think it's under video. Like I said, if your TV can handle 50hz then you set the Dune to 24/50/60. If your TV cannot handle 50hz natively then set it to 24/60 and the Dune will speed up all 25fps(50hz) up to 60hz but you will get higher pitched voices.

My old RPTV DLP could NOT do 50hz so I just forced the Dune to do 60hz and it worked fine with all PAL stuff.

I'm talking about the setting that is two up from the setting that you're talking about. The setting you're talking about I have set at the 24/50/60.

But two lines up on the same page there is setting that is only a 'one' selectable. I currently have mine a 59.xxx

I find it odd you would need to change it based on what you're watching or on what tv you're watching it on.

I never changed a setting on PJ to accommodate, and I can't remember what I ran the dune at before I reset it all. rolleyes.gif
post #10767 of 10812
I am hoping someone will help me get the region free patch for my max from MPC Forum.
Since changing email address cannot get to download the patch from MPC
If someone could download it and put it here I would be very appreciative
Its a tiny file

Here is the link

http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18187

Thanks
post #10768 of 10812
post #10769 of 10812
Thankyou Mr Eric
Your always helping me out
Very much appreciated smile.gif

I just put the patch in my dune max to make the optical drive region free
It worked great
Dvd is now region free automatically

Bluray is easy to change to region A
I put a region B in straight after and it went back to region B automatically
I think you just change it manually to A but reverts back to B after
My Max is normally region B

Done with latest firmware B8

Very happy now and wish my panasonic bluray player was able to do region free bluray in my movie room--but doesnt
Edited by denass - 2/24/14 at 2:33am
post #10770 of 10812
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

On your Dune. I think it's under video. Like I said, if your TV can handle 50hz then you set the Dune to 24/50/60. If your TV cannot handle 50hz natively then set it to 24/60 and the Dune will speed up all 25fps(50hz) up to 60hz but you will get higher pitched voices.

My old RPTV DLP could NOT do 50hz so I just forced the Dune to do 60hz and it worked fine with all PAL stuff.

After scanning the manual for the TV Set (Samsung PN63C8000), it appears it doesn't support 50Hz, it's 24/60Hz only, surprisingly.
I switched the video mode to 24/60 and now the PAL videos are playing fine. I didn't necessarily notice the high pitched voice so I think I'm good. Your solution worked!

Thanks.
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