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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

That's what she said!

Nice...MS!

CD
post #1472 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

That's what she said!

beat me to it!
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post #1474 of 10805
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Originally Posted by mifronte View Post

I have not seen the inside of the Dune, but reading the upgrade strategy makes me believe that upgrading the Dune Smart to the 8646 chip by "changing the main board" is like saying upgrading my computer by changing the motherboard. It may not be as straight forward or cost effective as it sounds...

My Denon 38008ci AVR was touted as feature upgradeable by Denon when it came out. Guess what? Only one firmware upgrade at $100 to enable some new features and now Denon is selling much newer more capable AVR (9.1 instead of 7.1) and could care less about the 3808ci.

If you bother to click and read the provided link vs. pontificating, you would find Dune's stated position would be the exchange of the complete box for the Smart series.

Speculation on Dune's stated position and your opine, I guess I'll go with Dune for the moment.

Whether or not it is a cost effective benefit remains to be seen. But since these things are internet direct and fixed pricing, Dune at least seems to be offering some flexibility and an option.

Here's the link again just in case you're interested: http://dune-hd.com/news/144-future-upgrades.html
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Any way to get my library of HD DVDs into a Dune player?
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Any way to get my library of HD DVDs into a Dune player?

Remux them into MKV and use FLAC to keep your HD audio.
post #1477 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

Remux them into MKV and use FLAC to keep your HD audio.

Can you translate for a guy who learned FORTRAN on punchcards?
post #1478 of 10805
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Can you translate for a guy who learned FORTRAN on punchcards?

How about if I teach you how to fish... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1033822
post #1479 of 10805
Shorter version... get eac3to, the TMT v2 trial, MKVtoolnix, and maybe BDSup2Sub if you need subs.

Follow the basic eac3to guide on that thread.
post #1480 of 10805
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Any way to get my library of HD DVDs into a Dune player?

Use ClownBD, Imgburn and ANYDVD HD to convert to BD ISO. Retains full PQ, HD audio and subs. Takes approx. 20 minutes to convert. I did about 50 last year. The Dune plays all perfectly with subs intact. MKVs are a waste of time with the Dune. Once setup it works well with little user input.
post #1481 of 10805
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Remux them into MKV and use FLAC to keep your HD audio.

What is your fascination with FLAC...? Why convert DTS HD and TRUE HD in the first place. The Dune bit streams as well as decodes. I see no need at all for wasting time with FLAC when dealing with the Dunes
post #1482 of 10805
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What is your fascination with FLAC...? Why convert DTS HD and TRUE HD in the first place. The Dune bit streams as well as decodes.

Simple... I have tons of MKV+FLAC remuxes and if I start doing them with HD audio then I have to switch the Dune to bitstream and I will not be able to use my FLAC ones.

Not only that... I think HD audio in their proprietary format is EVIL. I much rather use an open source format that is bullet proof. HD audio + bitstream is a total nightmare on a HTPC.
post #1483 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Killroy™ View Post

Simple... I have tons of MKV+FLAC remuxes and if I start doing them with HD audio then I have to switch the Dune to bitstream and I will not be able to use my FLAC ones.

Not only that... I think HD audio in their proprietary format is EVIL. I much rather use an open source format that is bullet proof. HD audio + bitstream is a total nightmare on a HTPC.

I have built several HTPC for clients in the last week or two with HD audio. This card works great:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-175-_-Product

PowerDVD 10 is required. Mount the ISO and call it a day.
post #1484 of 10805
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I have built several HTPC for clients in the last week or two with HD audio. This card works great:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-175-_-Product

PowerDVD 10 is required. Mount the ISO and call it a day.

PowerDVD??? UGH!!! Pulling the bamboo out from under my fingernails. lol
post #1485 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

Simple... I have tons of MKV+FLAC remuxes and if I start doing them with HD audio then I have to switch the Dune to bitstream and I will not be able to use my FLAC ones.

Not only that... I think HD audio in their proprietary format is EVIL. I much rather use an open source format that is bullet proof. HD audio + bitstream is a total nightmare on a HTPC.

You method may work for you.. but is is far from standard and new users should be given a standard proven platform for the Dune. I have been a Dune user since day one and the method I use has helped many forum members use and setup their Dunes without issue.
post #1486 of 10805
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PowerDVD??? UGH!!! Pulling the bamboo out from under my fingernails. lol

I did not said I use it. My clients want it for ease of use. Imagine that!
post #1487 of 10805
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Originally Posted by blackssr View Post

You method may work for you.. but is is far from standard and new users should be given a standard proven platform for the Dune. I have been a Dune user since day one and the method I use has helped many forum members use and setup their Dunes without issue.

How do you handle DD+ on an MKV without FLAC? I don't think there is any way to remux it natively? What about DTS-HiRes?
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Originally Posted by Killroy™ View Post

How do you handle DD+ on an MKV without FLAC? I don't think there is any way to remux it natively? What about DTS-HiRes?

On HD DVD (DD+) it is converted to LPCM during the conversion process to BD ISO. DTS Hires, not sure as I think only the original Rambo (First Blood) was DTS - Hires. I have to check I do not remember.
post #1489 of 10805
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Any way to get my library of HD DVDs into a Dune player?

I actually just completed the process of converting all my HD-DVDs to BD-iso using ClownBD. Works fantastic!

As stated below the only caveat that I have found is that DD+ is converted to LPCM. If the title has TrueHD I have been using that track instead.
post #1490 of 10805
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Can you translate for a guy who learned FORTRAN on punchcards?

Wow, a kindred spirit reminding me of the years using a Decwriter TSO to an IBM 704 mainframe writing FortranIV code in the mid sixties.
Mostly to calculate detection ranges for IR seeker equipped missiles for so many atmospheric conditions. Did you love the double precision math libraries.

Back on topic, has anyone used Another ea3toc, a GUI for ea3toc as compared to clown_bd which I have not used, for HDDVD.

Do not have a Dune as yet, but the rips work well on a Patriot Box Office (PBO) as MKV. Conversion to BR is interesting as the PBO does play BD iso from an external HDD albeit without menus.
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Originally Posted by keenan9 View Post

I actually just completed the process of converting all my HD-DVDs to BD-iso using ClownBD. Works fantastic!

As stated below the only caveat that I have found is that DD+ is converted to LPCM. If the title has TrueHD I have been using that track instead.

Wasn't DD+ only a HD DVD audio spec? Did Bluray even have DD+? Can't remember.
post #1492 of 10805
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Originally Posted by catmother View Post

Wow, a kindred spirit reminding me of the years using a Decwriter TSO to an IBM 704 mainframe writing FortranIV code in the mid sixties.
Mostly to calculate detection ranges for IR seeker equipped missiles for so many atmospheric conditions. Did you love the double precision math libraries.

Back on topic, has anyone used Another ea3toc, a GUI for ea3toc as compared to clown_bd which I have not used, for HDDVD.

Do not have a Dune as yet, but the rips work well on a Patriot Box Office (PBO) as MKV. Conversion to BR is interesting as the PBO does play BD iso form an external HDD albeit without menus.

Give ClownBD a try. It is really easy to setup and works really well.
post #1493 of 10805
A basic question - what drive do u use to read the HD-DVD? I have a few of these discs but am averse to buying a new drive just for them. I have a blu-ray burner: LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner from here - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136181
post #1494 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rishi76 View Post

A basic question - what drive do u use to read the HD-DVD? I have a few of these discs but am averse to buying a new drive just for them. I have a blu-ray burner: LG WH10LS30K 10X Blu-ray Burner from here - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136181

http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Xbox-3...item53e3e3ff2a
post #1495 of 10805
FWIW, tsmuxr will convert HD-DVD to BR without decoding DD+ to LPCM. I doubt the resulting BR is technically compliant, but the .m2ts plays on my older PCH-A110 so it will *probably* play on a Dune.
Sure would be nice if one the Dune experts could verify that though.
post #1496 of 10805
Damn the initial D1 stock at dp is all spoken for and no more until December....when I decide now to finally order.

Any other decent retailers out there that would be carrying this line? Thanks!
post #1497 of 10805
im gonna wait for the next batch to go out before i get one. i like to hear everyone's take on it first. im sure it will be awesome, but i hate being an early adopter.
post #1498 of 10805
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MKVs are a waste of time with the Dune.

Is there a reason MKVs are a waste of time with the Dune? Most of my files are MKVs and I was considering an H1. I don't want to waste my money. Thanks!
post #1499 of 10805
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Originally Posted by bri1270 View Post

Is there a reason MKVs are a waste of time with the Dune? Most of my files are MKVs and I was considering an H1. I don't want to waste my money. Thanks!

MKVs play fine with the Dune. The only issue I have found is that the Dune does not respect the forced subtitle track flag. If you have an mkv with multiple subtitles it could be a problem, but if the only time you ever had subtitles were if the subs were forced (such as Avatar) you are fine just leaving the subtitles set to On
post #1500 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rtart View Post

Any way to get my library of HD DVDs into a Dune player?

Thanks for all the responses. While I did really learn to program in FORTRAN, I need a VERY basic intro on how to do this.

Specifically, what type of drive do I need? Will a Tosh HD DVD player work, or do I need a dedicated drive in my PC? If so, what type of drive?

The help on software is very helpful. I have a MS Home Server with 4TB of storage right now. If memory serves, each BD disc takes up about 50GB? Is that correct? If my math is correct, my 400+/- BD/HD DVD collection will take up around 20TB?

If I'm reading the Dune website info correctly, the Dune Prime will allow me to read/copy the BD's to my MS Home Server?

Sorry to be such a noob, but I always try to start at the beginning and make sure I know what I am getting into.

And I did do a search for this info, for those who seemed put out that I was asking.
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