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post #8341 of 10805
I've just checked this on the DUNE website

Extra Functions

High-quality music playback: play very high-quality (up to 192 Khz / 24-bit) music files in various formats (FLAC, Monkey's Audio APE, WAV/PCM, DTS, etc).
Playlists: build playlists from your folders, use your own playlists, use repeat and shuffle functions.
NAS function: access files on storage devices (HDD, optical drive, etc) attached to the player from the local network (using SMB or FTP).
**********: use built-in ********** client to download files from P2P networks.
Customizable user interface: work with media collections using cover art and icon browsing (with Full HD graphics).

Has the firmware been updated to do the scraping on the DUNE ?

I have been using DuneX on my Mac for a long time but its a bit fragile.

If no DUNE option is there any other OSX options (no to running Parallels etc )

Cheers
post #8342 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Brian B View Post

I'm aware of the user shares...but have not set them up. Is this a necessity with the Dune?
SMB and NFS--scary acronyms...how do I know what I have? Can I change them? Will setting to NFS eliminate the need for shares? Should I just switch to shares anyway? What is the drawback of using shares?
B.

A necessity? Of course not. But it will solve your problem handily.

SMB is just Windows networking. (It's called Samba in Linux.) NFS is native to Linux. unRAID supports both and the Dune can use either or both.

Shares of some kind are necessary. You have no choice about that, if you want to share data over the network. SMB and NFS are just different sharing protocols. (You'll probably find SMB easier to set up.) You can use User shares with either.
post #8343 of 10805
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Originally Posted by lsarver View Post

A necessity? Of course not. But it will solve your problem handily.
SMB is just Windows networking. (It's called Samba in Linux.) NFS is native to Linux. unRAID supports both and the Dune can use either or both.
Shares of some kind are necessary. You have no choice about that, if you want to share data over the network. SMB and NFS are just different sharing protocols. (You'll probably find SMB easier to set up.) You can use User shares with either.

Sorry to sound like an idiot, but I'm not hip to the terminology. How do I know what is set up currently and can I make changes without losing data?

I have a Windows PC that accesses the network. The other device would be the Dune. Right now I have 7 disks with multiple/duplicate directories that are mapped to network drives on the PC.

What is the first step?

Brian
post #8344 of 10805
I have a Dune H1 sitting in a box that I am finally ready to bring online.
Is there a faq somewhere with recommendations for adding a memory stick, selecting 3TB drives, etc.

Thanks,

Rich
post #8345 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I have a Dune H1 sitting in a box that I am finally ready to bring online.
Is there a faq somewhere with recommendations for adding a memory stick, selecting 3TB drives, etc.
Thanks,
Rich

No FAQ, just ask your specific questions here.
post #8346 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I have a Dune H1 sitting in a box that I am finally ready to bring online.
Is there a faq somewhere with recommendations for adding a memory stick, selecting 3TB drives, etc.

Thanks,

Rich
Easiest memory is to stick an SD card in the front panel.
post #8347 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Brian B View Post

Sorry to sound like an idiot, but I'm not hip to the terminology. How do I know what is set up currently and can I make changes without losing data?
I have a Windows PC that accesses the network. The other device would be the Dune. Right now I have 7 disks with multiple/duplicate directories that are mapped to network drives on the PC.
What is the first step?
Brian

Brian,

I would suggest going to the Lime Tech Forum, and asking them how to set up your shares correctly since you've got so much data already. I am sure they can help you and give you the correct direction on how to do it correctly. Here's the link to the forum:
http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php
post #8348 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Brian B View Post

Sorry to sound like an idiot, but I'm not hip to the terminology. How do I know what is set up currently and can I make changes without losing data?
I have a Windows PC that accesses the network. The other device would be the Dune. Right now I have 7 disks with multiple/duplicate directories that are mapped to network drives on the PC.
What is the first step?
Brian

Since your Windows PC sees the data, SMB is obviously working. (It's unRAID's default. No need for NFS.) Just point your Dune to the same location (\\server\share).
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Brian,
I would suggest going to the Lime Tech Forum, and asking them how to set up your shares correctly since you've got so much data already. I am sure they can help you and give you the correct direction on how to do it correctly. Here's the link to the forum:
http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php

I was about to suggest this, too.
post #8349 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I have a Dune H1 sitting in a box that I am finally ready to bring online.
Is there a faq somewhere with recommendations for adding a memory stick, selecting 3TB drives, etc.

Thanks,

Rich

I found Scott's wiki very helpful to get me started.
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Axel
post #8350 of 10805
For those of you running Dune Flash Interface, the newest beta firmware now allows DFI to launch ISOs and BR folder structures. If this limitation had been holding you back from trying DFI in the past, you should now give it a shot. The interface is really slick and looks super nice.

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post #8351 of 10805
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

No FAQ, just ask your specific questions here.

Will do, if I can't figure it out.
The drive choice is WD versus Seagate. I have been buying WD for other purposes so I will stick with that unless I am warned off.
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

Easiest memory is to stick an SD card in the front panel.

I think there is an internal memory thingy that you can install.

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Originally Posted by Axel View Post

I found Scott's wiki very helpful to get me started.
____
Axel

Thanks for the link. Time to do my homework.

Thanks all.

- Rich
post #8352 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

....
I think there is an internal memory thingy that you can install.
...

The 'internal memory thingy' it is a regular USB port.

There is also at least one SATA port if you want to add a SSD or HDD (if not taken by an optical drive).
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Axel
post #8353 of 10805
My friend wants to buy Dune smart b1 player. He tried to contact couple of vendors and left message. Nobody replied. I am wondering if you have any suggestion. I am not sure if he contacted duneplayer.com. But it is little expensive and trying to find multiple vendors and compare to get better deal.
post #8354 of 10805
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Originally Posted by sukumar View Post

My friend wants to buy Dune smart b1 player. He tried to contact couple of vendors and left message. Nobody replied. I am wondering if you have any suggestion. I am not sure if he contacted duneplayer.com. But it is little expensive and trying to find multiple vendors and compare to get better deal.

Prices will be just about the same among all vendors
post #8355 of 10805
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Prices will be just about the same among all vendors

Damian, Thanks for quick reply. I did not buy, but some company offered Dune smart b1 for 20% less than what I find on internet. However, I bought smart h1 from other vendor since they only have B1..

Unfortunately, none of these two vendors responded to my friend's call.
post #8356 of 10805
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Originally Posted by sukumar View Post

Damian, Thanks for quick reply. I did not buy, but some company offered Dune smart b1 for 20% less than what I find on internet. However, I bought smart h1 from other vendor since they only have B1..
Unfortunately, none of these two vendors responded to my friend's call.

Your friend is calling for what reason? The prices are listed on duneplayer.com no need to call. Just check out !
post #8357 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Brian B View Post

Sorry to sound like an idiot, but I'm not hip to the terminology. How do I know what is set up currently and can I make changes without losing data?
I have a Windows PC that accesses the network. The other device would be the Dune. Right now I have 7 disks with multiple/duplicate directories that are mapped to network drives on the PC.
What is the first step?
Brian

You will have no problem. Making one big share out of your drives might make some things simpler but is not necessary.

Dune does have an SMB share limit that might impact you but there are many different ways to get around it. No need to reorganize all your data. And any of the common indexers (MyMovies, Zappiti, etc) can easily handle multiple shares and consolidate them into one movie index.

One easy solution: setup the Dune to use NFS to access your Unraid data. You can continue to use SMB to access your Unraid from Windows.
post #8358 of 10805
I fired up the H1 today.
It had no problem finding my ReadyNas Pro NAS.

I tried playing a couple of BD ISO's and they are stuttering.
I have a Gigabit network and have no trouble sustaining 80MB's transfering files to the NAS.

I upgraded to the latest beta firmware which ran better but I still get suttering.
I turned on the fast SMB option and it helped a little but I still get stuttering with network playback.

Is there something else I can try?

- Rich
post #8359 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post


The drive choice is WD versus Seagate. I have been buying WD for other purposes so I will stick with that unless I am warned off.

Thanks all.
- Rich

just only thing you need to know for the HDD : don't buy a 7200rpm HDD or it would fry your Dune. Only buy a "Green" or "Eco" drive (5400rpm).
post #8360 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

just only thing you need to know for the HDD : don't buy a 7200rpm HDD or it would fry your Dune. Only buy a "Green" or "Eco" drive (5400rpm).

Thanks,

I bought a WD 3TB drive.
I would like to remove it and attach it to a computer to load files since the network is too slow for loading BD ISO's.

Would it be better to add an internal memory stick for system storage?
Should I format the drive in Windows or let the Dune do that?

Thanks,

Rich
post #8361 of 10805
Sukumar,

Just FYI we responded to your friend, I just didn't provide a discount on the player. Sometimes we'll do freebies (USB, etc.) but we follow a pretty hard line on the player pricing. So our pricing may not have been what he was looking for but I didn't want it to seem like we didn't respond at all, we did the same day. Thanks!
post #8362 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Thanks,
I bought a WD 3TB drive.
I would like to remove it and attach it to a computer to load files since the network is too slow for loading BD ISO's.
Would it be better to add an internal memory stick for system storage?
Should I format the drive in Windows or let the Dune do that?
Thanks,
Rich

system storage is always usefull and usb thumbs are cheap (2 or 4GB is enough for system storage). You can install it internally (there's a USB plug inside the case) but try to use a very small factor thumb. If you don't want to bother you are still able to plug it outside on any USB port and leave it there, but you will lose 1 USB port.

FYI you can even use a small partition on your internal HDD to have system storage running. But as you have a H1, I guess that you might use more than 1 HDD, so this solution is not for you...

You can format directly from the dune or from windows (NTFS). But for 3TB drives I would advise to do it from the dune.
post #8363 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

system storage is always usefull and usb thumbs are cheap (2 or 4GB is enough for system storage). You can install it internally (there's a USB plug inside the case) but try to use a very small factor thumb. If you don't want to bother you are still able to plug it outside on any USB port and leave it there, but you will lose 1 USB port.
FYI you can even use a small partition on your internal HDD to have system storage running. But as you have a H1, I guess that you might use more than 1 HDD, so this solution is not for you...
You can format directly from the dune or from windows (NTFS). But for 3TB drives I would advise to do it from the dune.

I have the cover off and tried an old USB drive.
Does speed matter? I was considering a HDSC card like this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HGFKR8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0C8KZ2SM7TY5E4W5Y9SR&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846

I could get a USB adapter and class 10. I am not concerned about the cost.

My 3TB hard drive should arrive tomorrow.
I want to attach it to windows and load BD ISO's. If I format it with the Dune, does it make a NTFS partition?

Thanks,

Rich
post #8364 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I fired up the H1 today.
It had no problem finding my ReadyNas Pro NAS.
I tried playing a couple of BD ISO's and they are stuttering.
I have a Gigabit network and have no trouble sustaining 80MB's transfering files to the NAS.
I upgraded to the latest beta firmware which ran better but I still get suttering.
I turned on the fast SMB option and it helped a little but I still get stuttering with network playback.
Is there something else I can try?
- Rich

Internal storage did not help playback.
I copied the ISO to a 64Gig Memory Stick and it plays fine.
The title has peaks of 40Mbps. I think the network is the problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Rich
post #8365 of 10805
^ Try using NFS instead of SMB.
post #8366 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I have the cover off and tried an old USB drive.
Does speed matter? I was considering a HDSC card like this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002HGFKR8/ref=s9_simh_gw_p147_d0_g147_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=0C8KZ2SM7TY5E4W5Y9SR&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938631&pf_rd_i=507846
I could get a USB adapter and class 10. I am not concerned about the cost.
My 3TB hard drive should arrive tomorrow.
I want to attach it to windows and load BD ISO's. If I format it with the Dune, does it make a NTFS partition?
Thanks,
Rich

don't spend anything for the system storage. if you have an old usb drive, at least 2GB, and small enough to fit where it should, that's fine. System storage doesn't need to be a high speed state of the art memory wink.gif

The dune will offer you the possibility to format as ntfs once your brand new HDD installed.
post #8367 of 10805
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Originally Posted by LVS View Post

^ Try using NFS instead of SMB.

+1

But with the network you seem to have, smb should be OK. So there might be a problem somewhere anyway...
post #8368 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by RichB View Post

I fired up the H1 today.
It had no problem finding my ReadyNas Pro NAS.
I tried playing a couple of BD ISO's and they are stuttering.
I have a Gigabit network and have no trouble sustaining 80MB's transfering files to the NAS.
I upgraded to the latest beta firmware which ran better but I still get suttering.
I turned on the fast SMB option and it helped a little but I still get stuttering with network playback.
Is there something else I can try?
- Rich

Internal storage did not help playback.
I copied the ISO to a 64Gig Memory Stick and it plays fine.
The title has peaks of 40Mbps. I think the network is the problem.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Rich

if you do a read test on the dune, using one of the iso's that are stuttering, what are the results? what kind of speeds are you seeing, and are they consistent or do they fluctuate?

beyond that, eliminate variables one by one. set up a share on a pc, move one of the stuttering iso's to the share, and play it from there rather than the nas. if that makes it better, than it's either the nas not playing well with the dune, or it's one of the pieces of network hardware that isn't common to both the nas -> dune connection and the pc -> dune connection. are there multiple switches between the dune and the nas? if so, try plugging both the dune and nas into the same switch (if possible). are there other devices plugged into any of the switches the dune and nas are plugged into? if so, unplug them one at a time and test with each different one unplugged. if you systematically eliminate variables, a pattern will eventually emerge.
Edited by absolootbs - 6/14/12 at 11:48am
post #8369 of 10805
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Originally Posted by RichB View Post

Internal storage did not help playback.
I copied the ISO to a 64Gig Memory Stick and it plays fine.
The title has peaks of 40Mbps. I think the network is the problem.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Rich

Check to see that "Fast SMB" is still in the options and if it is then enable it.
post #8370 of 10805
OK. Thanks all.

Flash: I ordered a cheap $7 Xporter Mini fir internal usage.

ISO network performance:
I found this video on using NFS:
NFS seems to have fixed most of the problem. I have seen a small stutter here and there, but it is MUCH better.

To get it working, I had to:

  • Enable NFS protocol in the ReadyNAS
  • Enable NFS on the specific Share
  • Create a Network Foltder on the Dune
  • Change the Dune folder properties to NFS
  • Change the Server to an IP (I am not sure if this was necessary, I need to try it the other way now that I fixed other stuff).
  • Change the folder path to start with a forward slash "/"

Thanks all for you assistance.

- Rich
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