New Dune HD Max and HD Smart anticipation thread Q3 2010 - Page 280

I did that and it did not help, but NFS did.

Thanks,

Rich

I spoke too soon.
I am getting some stutters with NFS playing ZATOICHI BD ISO.

Maybe SOC 100Mbs is not up to cutting it.

- Rich

have you rebooted your router and all switches since changing to NFS. Reboot the Dune player as well.

Thanks for reply and calling him back. It seems he is still thinking to buy Dune or Oppo 93 player for little more. He may contact you once he decides.

"dune or oppo 93" isn't that apples and oranges?

nope... I owned a 93 but sold it because I don't have the need to use it since I have Dune players. I have converted my SACD and DVD audio discs to pcm files and have no need for the oppos mlp and dsd capabilities.

SMB over GbE should be fast enough (88Mbps). Disable jumbo packets?

NFS helped a bit.
I disabled Jumbo packets and it made no difference.

My 3TB drive came in so I copied ZATOICHI to the drive.
No problem playing with almost a constant 43Mbs rate.

It does not play over the network and the rate jumps all over the place from the 15 to 60Mbs.
That seems to be a measurement of what it is achieving not was is required.
As a result, the image stutters and audio is almost never present.

Any other experiments worth trying?

Thanks

Rich

Can see just one other possible reason : faulty dune Ethernet port....(stupid but : did you tried with another Ethernet cable ?).

While this is not a long-term solution, try setting your NAS Ethernet port to 100Mb instead of Gb.

I don't really understand networking enough to explain why this can help, but I've heard of others who had a similar problem and this fixed it.

If that helps, perhaps a better switch could solve the problem. It's possible that data is getting backed up in the switch which would make the latency skyrocket.

how many of the things i suggested in my post near the bottom of the last page of this thread did you try? and note that when i ask in that post about the speeds you see while doing a "read test", i don't mean watching the bit rate on the info screen while playing a file/movie. i mean while doing an actual read test on one of the files you're having trouble with. if you don't know what that is, or how to do it, just search this thread. it's been explained in here more than a handful of times.
Edited by absolootbs - 6/14/12 at 11:51am

I've an odd network problem that causes random freezing on my Dune H1. There were 2 computers on my network and I just added another one. It is a Win7 box that I'm using for backup storage. The Dune will freeze while playing a video whenever that [new] computer is turned on and has an Ethernet cable plugged into it. Video plays fine if I turn off the [new] computer, or unplug its Ethernet cable. I've got my videos on a ReadyNAS and they also play fine if I move the NAS to my TV room and plug it directly into my Dune. Does this sound like a Switch problem? There are 3 switches between the NAS and the Dune.

I should note I'm using D-Link DGS-2205 switches which someone reported as having extremely slow read/write speeds with ReadyNAS boxes... but this is the first time in two years that I've had a problem with my setup.

Any ideas? Thanks!

Really hoping to not rip movie only unless I absolutely have to.

Unfortunately I tried a full disc rip to folder structure and had the same results.

As a recap. I'm having issues playing back chronicles of narnia 3 voyage of the dawn treader. Ripped with dvdfab as full disc ISO and full disc folder structure. Zappiti is my interface on smart b1. When I try to play this movie (bluray) all I get is a black screen. Any thoughts? Running last non beta firmware and latest DVDFAb.

The maker of the disc did that on purpose. You will need to rip the main movie. You can still do that as an .iso file in DVDFab.

Why would he have to rip movie only I have never herd of any disc having to rip movie only to be able to play it without it being the fault of the player not liking something about it.

I also really hope that's not the case.

Can you try the trial of AnyDVD and see if it does a better job ripping?
What they [disk authors] sometimes do to make life harder on us all is to create bizarre playlists that may mess up software players. The problem is that these tricks also mess up hardware players (Blu-Ray players), which is one reason why we need to update the firmware on our Blu-Ray players. I believe SlySoft tries to identify the correct playlist and tries to correct the disk so it will play.

Perhaps the reason it will not play is that the disk is messed up. if you can open your full disk folder and look for the largest M2TS file in the Stream directory. Once you find it, try playing it on your PC (I recommend Media Player Classic) or copy it to your Dune to see if it will play.

The studio puts in lots of bad playlists hoping to foul up the ripping sw.
They did that on Source Code too- you just have to find the correct palylist to rip from.
Maybe do a search for 'The Chronicles of Narnia The Voyage of the Dawn Treader'- playlist?
You can also play some of the larger .mts files- try to put them in proper time order- then see which playlist (.mpls) matches your findings, then use that playlist to rip from. It's a pain- but it can be done.

One thing to keep in mind is that they apparently have different play lists for different versions. The rental disks may have one play list, the single disk version may have another, and the everything except the kitchen sink version may have another.

I am anxious to read some user experiences with the new Dune HD TV 101 and Dune HD TV 301 units. These look like a nice solution as long as you don't care about bluray ISO support. As long as these units run well I will seriously consider buying one.
Edited by generalhead - 6/15/12 at 9:59am

If someone told me they supported forced subs in MKV, they would be perfect. That's the only reason I use BD-ISO on my Base 3.0.

I still don't understand why you keep on saying that the 301/101 aren't able to play bd iso while they can...

The only problem was with iso and bdvm folders containing more than one m2ts file : there was a freeze between 2 m2ts. But it appears that from the latest 120531 beta those freezes are gone...

There's a huge thread about 301/101 on avf if you want some feedback about those models.

Ps : it's still not available in the us ? I don't see anyone posting about it except for asking questions...

I will try this. In the meanwhile, I have seen a several people reporting they got the movie to rip/play fine. I would be interested to know if they used FAB or AnyDVD HD and if they had to find any special settings/playlists.

If the Blu-ray uses the same scheme as Source Code, the AnyDVD HD status window will tell you which playlist is the correct one.

would you be kind.enough to provide a link to that thread? i have not come across it in my searches.

and fwiw i was simply qouting duneplayer.com (only place to get these in the US that I know of) that says "no blu-ray iso support or blu-ray menu support".

Here's the link : http://www.avforums.com/forums/streamers-network-media-players/1602753-dune-tv101-301-q-thread-part-2-a.html

I tried a different capble and port. No change.

I did that and I can get better Read test performance but not fast enough to solve the problem when the ReadyNas is configured at 1Gig Ethernet.

Streaming test with Underwolrd Revolution:

ReadyNas Pro at 1Gig

NFS Standard packets (1500 MTU): 4.4 MBs
SMB Standard Packets (1478 MTU): 6.8 MBs
SMB Jumbo Packets: 6.8 MBs

ReadyNas Pro at 100Mbs Full Duplex

SMB Standard Packets (1478 MTU): 8.6 MBs


The only thing that gets the speed up is for force the ReadNAS pro to 100 Mbs.

Once again, I am stumped.

- Rich

I would try a different switch, if you have one available. Otherwise, ask around on a forum full of networking experts. It's not the first time I've seen this and I don't think the issue was ever resolved last time.

The Ethernet port on the Dune will limit you pretty close to 8MB/sec on sustained transfers. But even so that is plenty for HD video/audio streams. I never see more than about 8.0-8.2MB/sec through my Netgear router and Netgear GB switch between Dune and PC. And I also never see stuttering or more than a rare freeze when streaming BD ISO.

thats not necessarily true. myself as well as plenty of others on here see 11 MB/s all day long on dune read tests. but i do agree that for 95% of blu-ray streaming 8 - 9 MB/s is enough.