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post #8551 of 10795
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Originally Posted by CrazyNurse View Post

Is this true for all Dunes? Which FW?
I have 1 full 3TB Deskstar and one 1/2 full 3TB Deskstar running alongside a pair of full 2 TB Seagate Greens in a 4bay enclosure over a USB connection.
Using an H1, I have not had any I/O errors playing BD ISO files at all. Some are full rips and some files are main+HD English audio and subs.
If I wasn't able to play off the Deskstars I would have tossed the dune in the trash a long time ago.

I am using a 4 bay enclosure as well containing three 3TB WD Green drives, and have never had any problem playing ISO's either. Perhaps those who have incompatibility issues should report which specific drive doesn't play nice with the Dune, for the benefit of other folks on this thread.
post #8552 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

Yeah, don't get me started on colorspace and how Dune improperly handles it. "streamlover" will be on my case. biggrin.gif
streamERlover...get it right Mr. 4:2:2...biggrin.gif
Did I mention my oppo does handle that correctly, but I can not stream from a server and that the drives must be directly connected to the oppo!
However, 3D blu ray iso's are KILLER on the oppo!
post #8553 of 10795
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Originally Posted by tightrope View Post

I am using a 4 bay enclosure as well containing three 3TB WD Green drives, and have never had any problem playing ISO's either. Perhaps those who have incompatibility issues should report which specific drive doesn't play nice with the Dune, for the benefit of other folks on this thread.
also should comment on HOW they are hooked up to the dune. ie NAS, unraid, usb etc. Maybe there is some correlation...
post #8554 of 10795
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Originally Posted by streamerlover View Post

also should comment on HOW they are hooked up to the dune. ie NAS, unraid, usb etc. Maybe there is some correlation...

There's never been any issue with 3TB drives from network. And I think internal Sata and eSata have always worked (provided the drive is formatted properly -- there used to be formatting issues but those are solved in the latest firmwares). It's only USB that's had issues.

All I know is from this thread. I've never tried it myself.
post #8555 of 10795
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Originally Posted by streamerlover View Post

also should comment on HOW they are hooked up to the dune. ie NAS, unraid, usb etc. Maybe there is some correlation...

In my case the enclosure is directly connected to my D1 via USB... no issue whatsoever.
post #8556 of 10795
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

I might have this bassackwards, but you get the drift:
Hot pink means the display is expecting RGB and receiving YCbCr.
Green is the opposite, display expects YCbCr and receives RGB.
Either can be the result of a handshake error, or the result of wrong explicit settings. Generally, "auto" settings are not the best option and explicit settings result in fewer errors.

So I changed the color settings to RGB full and all is working now. Thank you everyone.
post #8557 of 10795
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Originally Posted by alexsquared View Post

So I changed the color settings to RGB full and all is working now. Thank you everyone.
You want RGB-limited for anything other than a PC output. That assumes your display is correctly set up for RGB input.
post #8558 of 10795
Okay, I'm trying makeMKV again for the first time in years. I'm curious to see how these files play on my Dune since ISO seems to be giving me headaches. I'm over the romance of keeping full menus, trailers, extras, etc. Maybe I'm reading an old thread but I came across something that says makeMKV will only strip out the core from HD audio and not preserve the full stream as in TrueHD and DTS-MA, etc. Is this still true?
post #8559 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

Okay, I'm trying makeMKV again for the first time in years. I'm curious to see how these files play on my Dune since ISO seems to be giving me headaches. I'm over the romance of keeping full menus, trailers, extras, etc. Maybe I'm reading an old thread but I came across something that says makeMKV will only strip out the core from HD audio and not preserve the full stream as in TrueHD and DTS-MA, etc. Is this still true?

Old info, you retain the full HD Audio track for DTS (MA) (meaning the DTS core and the MA). For TrueHD you lose the embedded AC3 track
post #8560 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Old info, you retain the full HD Audio track for DTS (MA) (meaning the DTS core and the MA). For TrueHD you lose the embedded AC3 track

Embedded AC3 track as in directors commentary and such?
post #8561 of 10795
Okay, first rip completed in about 31 minutes and I didn't change any default settings or remove anything. I believe I just hit "backup" button and let it run. Now I have a folder with the movie name and subfolders like "stream", "playlist", etc. I can't get anything to play. I just tried Windows Media Player and VLC Player. What am I doing wrong?
post #8562 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

Okay, first rip completed in about 31 minutes and I didn't change any default settings or remove anything. I believe I just hit "backup" button and let it run. Now I have a folder with the movie name and subfolders like "stream", "playlist", etc. I can't get anything to play. I just tried Windows Media Player and VLC Player. What am I doing wrong?

Yes, you did it wrong, you did a full folder backup, not an mkv backup. Just hit the little MakeMKV icon after you launch MakeMKV and it will take you through the options
post #8563 of 10795
One thing to check before you rip to mkv, hit the little check box and make sure that the DTS-MA soundtrack is checked. I ripped Downton Abbey season one and it didn't have the lossless audio. I went back and checked and you have to physically select the DTS-MA audio track in order for it to be included.
post #8564 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Yes, you did it wrong, you did a full folder backup, not an mkv backup. Just hit the little MakeMKV icon after you launch MakeMKV and it will take you through the options

Ah, I see it now. You have to open the disc and let it decrypt to show the titles, audio tracks, subs, etc. Check what you want then hit the makeMVK button instead of the "backup" button. Let's see how long this takes.
post #8565 of 10795
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Originally Posted by RaggedEdge View Post

One thing to check before you rip to mkv, hit the little check box and make sure that the DTS-MA soundtrack is checked. I ripped Downton Abbey season one and it didn't have the lossless audio. I went back and checked and you have to physically select the DTS-MA audio track in order for it to be included.

Yep, I see that, thanks!
post #8566 of 10795
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Originally Posted by streamerlover View Post

streamERlover...get it right Mr. 4:2:2...biggrin.gif
Did I mention my oppo does handle that correctly, but I can not stream from a server and that the drives must be directly connected to the oppo!
However, 3D blu ray iso's are KILLER on the oppo!

That's right, go ahead and rub it in. How many external enclosures could you hook up to Oppo?
post #8567 of 10795
Well, one disk down with no problems. Next one is giving me all kinds of errors.
post #8568 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

Well, one disk down with no problems. Next one is giving me all kinds of errors.

Make sure the disc does not have any smudges/scratches on it. If you have ANyDVD try that. What disc?
post #8569 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Make sure the disc does not have any smudges/scratches on it. If you have ANyDVD try that. What disc?

The movie is Chronicle. It's brand new and clean but I cleaned it anyway. I have DVDFabHD which is what I use for the ISO's. With makeMKV, if the file structure shows a title with for instance, 23 chapters and then another title with 19 chapters, do I need to select them both or just the one with the most chapters?
post #8570 of 10795
Sorry, I meant to say that both titles show 23 chapters.
post #8571 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

Sorry, I meant to say that both titles show 23 chapters.

Click and highlight each play list, and see what it says on the lower right side "INFO." It should give you some type of description and how long the movie is. Some times, the biggest file isn't the correct one. I usually use www.imdb.com to check the length of a movie (total time). For example, Chronicle (2012) is 84 min. longs. See which file is close to 84 min. long.

Furthermore, under "INFO" it should give you a plays list as well, you will have to select the correct playlist. If you choose the wrong one, you will have director's commentaries, and you will have to re-rip the movie. Or you can rip both files, and play them with VLC and see, which one is the correct one.

I believe the larger one is the director's cut, but I can't remember. I ripped that movie long time ago.
post #8572 of 10795
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Originally Posted by GusGus748s View Post

Click and highlight each play list, and see what it says on the lower right side "INFO." It should give you some type of description and how long the movie is. Some times, the biggest file isn't the correct one. I usually use www.imdb.com to check the length of a movie (total time). For example, Chronicle (2012) is 84 min. longs. See which file is close to 84 min. long.
Furthermore, under "INFO" it should give you a plays list as well, you will have to select the correct playlist. If you choose the wrong one, you will have director's commentaries, and you will have to re-rip the movie. Or you can rip both files, and play them with VLC and see, which one is the correct one.
I believe the larger one is the director's cut, but I can't remember. I ripped that movie long time ago.

^ This.

Anytime you have multiple playlists the best clue is usually in the timestamp which you can compare against Amazon, IMDB, etc..

Things will get more interesting once you get to some of the disney blu rays wink.gif
post #8573 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

^ This.
Anytime you have multiple playlists the best clue is usually in the timestamp which you can compare against Amazon, IMDB, etc..
Things will get more interesting once you get to some of the disney blu rays wink.gif

Yeap, I am very familiar with those. I am so glad ClownBD gives you all the playlist, and I just play, which ever file is different from each playlist to find the correct one. Here's a link to a "how to" that was done by Damian / dbone1026

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2011/11/17/guide-choosing-the-right-playlist-for-a-main-movie-rip/
post #8574 of 10795
I don't understand what these errors are.

post #8575 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

I don't understand what these errors are.

I've seen those errors before. It is a hardware error. Either one or multiple files in the disk that you are trying to rip is corrupted, and the disk drive + software cannot read the disk. You will have to get another copy.
post #8576 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

I don't understand what these errors are.

Try doing a full disc rip with DVDFab and see if you get the errors. If not then just take that rip and run it through MakeMKV or Clown_BD/MKVMerge
post #8577 of 10795
Also keep in mind that by going to mkvs you lose forced subtitle support with Dune
post #8578 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Also keep in mind that by going to mkvs you lose forced subtitle support with Dune

Oh, yeah, you just reminded me about something I wanted to ask you regarding subtitles. I'll PM you.
post #8579 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Also keep in mind that by going to mkvs you lose forced subtitle support with Dune

What the heck does that mean anyway? Are "forced" subtitles those which are actually part of the film such as when someone speaks a foreign language for a few lines but I'm not actually using a subtitle track?
post #8580 of 10795
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Originally Posted by dropzone7 View Post

What the heck does that mean anyway? Are "forced" subtitles those which are actually part of the film such as when someone speaks a foreign language for a few lines but I'm not actually using a subtitle track?

Yes!
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