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post #9361 of 10108
1/6/13 at 8:31am
I presently have a Mediasonic 4 bay attached to my Dune H1 via USB with 2 - 3TB and 2 - 2TB discs. I have had no problems playing from the USB attached 3 TB drives.
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post #9362 of 10108
1/6/13 at 10:00am
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The green drives are what you would use inside the dune. Specifically for heat issues! Now the synology has built in fans. I think I'm going to try and pick up a 1812 or 1512 at CES this year, I already have green drives, but if I were to buy more I would go with the red drives possibly 4tb

Try to pick up the 1812 if it wont hurt your pocket. With about 800 dvds(main movies in iso form) and about 106 blu ray(main movie only ) and about 19 tv series i am using the 2 disk hybrid raid. I have about 8.5tb of space left(main unit). When i had the 1511 i could see myself needing more space which is why i got the 1812 and sold my 1511.
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post #9363 of 10108
1/6/13 at 11:43am
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Originally Posted by DiabloZoe View Post

The green drives are what you would use inside the dune. Specifically for heat issues! Now the synology has built in fans. I think I'm going to try and pick up a 1812 or 1512 at CES this year, I already have green drives, but if I were to buy more I would go with the red drives possibly 4tb

Heat problem on Dune caused by lack of ventilation not type of HDD that Dune would have us believe.

Mine gets hot with no HDD installed.

Louvred slots should be complete slots so I removed metal enclosure, reversed it onto a piece of plywood and using hammer and cold chisel I extended each slot to a more vertical profile.

Result is that I can now use a high spin HDD without Dune getting even warm.
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post #9364 of 10108
1/6/13 at 5:32pm
I apologize in advance - I am guessing this info is covered in this thread, but with 235 pages, I was overwhelmed trying to read through everything.

I have an opportunity to buy a Dune HD Max for a really good price, but wasn't sure if there is a reason I should avoid it. I want it to play music and movies stored on my home network. My music is in a variety of formats, but my bigger concern is my Blu Rays. I have ripped them to an iso on a server on my network. Is there any reason I won't be able to continue to browse my movies directly on the HD Max and play the iso files without converting them?

After reading about firmware updates taking away features on some models and new models coming with fewer features, I wasn't sure if there is a reason to avoid this model. Honestly, I was going to get the Duo without the blue ray drive, but I found the Max for less than the Duo and figured I would get it.

thanks in advance,
Nick
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post #9365 of 10108
1/6/13 at 7:29pm
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Originally Posted by NGiovas View Post

I apologize in advance - I am guessing this info is covered in this thread, but with 235 pages, I was overwhelmed trying to read through everything.
I have an opportunity to buy a Dune HD Max for a really good price, but wasn't sure if there is a reason I should avoid it. I want it to play music and movies stored on my home network. My music is in a variety of formats, but my bigger concern is my Blu Rays. I have ripped them to an iso on a server on my network. Is there any reason I won't be able to continue to browse my movies directly on the HD Max and play the iso files without converting them?
After reading about firmware updates taking away features on some models and new models coming with fewer features, I wasn't sure if there is a reason to avoid this model. Honestly, I was going to get the Duo without the blue ray drive, but I found the Max for less than the Duo and figured I would get it.
thanks in advance,
Nick

Go for it Nick! It will work well for you.
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post #9366 of 10108
1/6/13 at 7:33pm
I have a Smart H1 configured with local storage. Since the last firmware update I'm getting several audio dropouts per movie with any HD audio, Dolby or DTS. Is anyone else getting this? The dropouts happen at the exact same spot each time in a given movie. They do not occur if you rewind a bit and replay the spot with the dropout.
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post #9367 of 10108
1/6/13 at 8:46pm
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Originally Posted by Kirnak View Post

I have a Smart H1 configured with local storage. Since the last firmware update I'm getting several audio dropouts per movie with any HD audio, Dolby or DTS. Is anyone else getting this? The dropouts happen at the exact same spot each time in a given movie. They do not occur if you rewind a bit and replay the spot with the dropout.

I have audio issues with a few movies with True HD sound, but it plays fine when I switch to DTS / AC3 track. Revert back to an earlier firmware and see if you have the same issues.
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post #9368 of 10108
1/6/13 at 9:13pm
Is there a firmware version that seems to work well for everyone? What's everyone's favorite? Thanks!
Edited by Kirnak - 1/6/13 at 10:27pm
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post #9369 of 10108
1/6/13 at 10:56pm
I use the most current firmware. You can change/download other firmware by going to settings.
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post #9370 of 10108
1/7/13 at 12:58am
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Originally Posted by Kirnak View Post

I have a Smart H1 configured with local storage. Since the last firmware update I'm getting several audio dropouts per movie with any HD audio, Dolby or DTS. Is anyone else getting this? The dropouts happen at the exact same spot each time in a given movie. They do not occur if you rewind a bit and replay the spot with the dropout.

I recently had 2 movies with occasional drop out : Expendables 2 (DTS HD 7.1) with may be 3 or 4 drop outs during the movie played from the retail disc on my D1 + BE extension, and Total recall (2012) with many small drop out (DD THD 5.1 I believe) from both the retail disc and rip. It didn't happen to me since a long time and I thought this was corrected in a past firmware were 7.1 audio tracks were known to have drop outs (Tron for example).

Total Recall is including Cinavia, not sure about Expendables 2 as I didn't rip it. Cinavia could be the problem ?
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post #9371 of 10108
1/7/13 at 2:13am
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

I recently had 2 movies with occasional drop out : Expendables 2 (DTS HD 7.1) with may be 3 or 4 drop outs during the movie played from the retail disc on my D1 + BE extension, and Total recall (2012) with many small drop out (DD THD 5.1 I believe) from both the retail disc and rip. It didn't happen to me since a long time and I thought this was corrected in a past firmware were 7.1 audio tracks were known to have drop outs (Tron for example).
Total Recall is including Cinavia, not sure about Expendables 2 as I didn't rip it. Cinavia could be the problem ?

I didn't have any issues with Expandables 2, but I did have issues with Total Recall. I switch to AC3 DTS track and it solved the problem.
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post #9372 of 10108
1/7/13 at 10:27am
Interesting... Yes, after checking, the movies with dropouts are 7.1 tracks. I'm on the most current firmware. I really don't feel switching to a Lossy audio track is a good option. Is this an issue Dune is working on?
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post #9373 of 10108
1/7/13 at 11:01am
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Originally Posted by Kirnak View Post

Interesting... Yes, after checking, the movies with dropouts are 7.1 tracks. I'm on the most current firmware. I really don't feel switching to a Lossy audio track is a good option. Is this an issue Dune is working on?

Who knows. The one thing I dislike about Dune is their support. It is practically none existing. You can try an post on http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/ and see if you can find anything out.
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post #9374 of 10108
1/7/13 at 11:50am
The issue with dropouts on 7.1 Dolby THD releases is not a player issue per se, all players are having the same issues. Studios are being tight-lipped about what's causing it, but it may be a Dolby authoring problem. If the player supports decoding to multichannel LPCM, that's the work-around. It may in fact be an issue with AVRs and their decoders. In any case the studios are fully aware of it so if you get a disc with 7.1 DTHD and dropouts, return it as defective and don't bother asking for a replacement until this is fixed.
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post #9375 of 10108
1/7/13 at 1:47pm
Forgive me in advance if this question will be taken as lazy but, I did do some searching without any definitive results.

Are the Max and the B1 subject to Cinavia or are they built early enough to avoid it?
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post #9376 of 10108
1/7/13 at 1:56pm
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Originally Posted by Stevetd View Post

Forgive me in advance if this question will be taken as lazy but, I did do some searching without any definitive results.
Are the Max and the B1 subject to Cinavia or are they built early enough to avoid it?

Not subject to Cinavia
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post #9377 of 10108
1/7/13 at 2:15pm
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The issue with dropouts on 7.1 Dolby THD releases is not a player issue per se, all players are having the same issues. Studios are being tight-lipped about what's causing it, but it may be a Dolby authoring problem. If the player supports decoding to multichannel LPCM, that's the work-around. It may in fact be an issue with AVRs and their decoders. In any case the studios are fully aware of it so if you get a disc with 7.1 DTHD and dropouts, return it as defective and don't bother asking for a replacement until this is fixed.

Thanks, but that's not it I think. I tried the original disc (Brave) in my Sony 790, no dropouts, at least in the first chapter. (The Dune has two dropouts in that chapter.) I thought it might be the main movie copy I was using on the Dune, so I burned a disc from that ISO. The burned disc also plays the first chapter with no audio dropouts.

I would like to hear more about the issue you raise though?
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post #9378 of 10108
1/7/13 at 11:38pm
OK, I've been reading reviews and skimming threads for a couple weeks. After considering Dune, PCH, Mede8er, Nixeus, WD, Boxee and probably a couple other brands I forgot I read about, I think I'm going with the Dune Smart series. Basically, I need a standalone unit, HDMI 1.3 compatible with a full range of file playback. I don't want to stream via wifi to my HT anymore (I have been going PS3 Media Center via PS3 for a couple years now). I *do* want my media streamer to have a decent jukebox experience. My main issue is that we're a Mac household and I'm hoping the Dune is relatively Mac-friendly.

I know Dune X exists and it looks good, but I also saw someone talking about Zappiti having an iPad plug-in (but no Airplay, right?), which would aid the all-important WAF.

Is the Dune Smart series Mac-friendly? Is Zappiti a better option for a Mac Dune user (vs Dune X)?

And yes, I know PCH has some cool Mac options in their FW but their units are still too buggy for me.
Thanks in advance if anyone has a response.
Edited by JoelcE - 1/7/13 at 11:43pm
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post #9379 of 10108
1/8/13 at 1:20am
Zappiti is PC only, so if you want to run it you will need to use a virtual windows installed (with parallel desktops for example). DuneX is the only native Mac software for dune, unfortunately it doesn't have any iOS app.
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post #9380 of 10108
1/8/13 at 1:26am
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Originally Posted by Kirnak View Post

Thanks, but that's not it I think. I tried the original disc (Brave) in my Sony 790, no dropouts, at least in the first chapter. (The Dune has two dropouts in that chapter.) I thought it might be the main movie copy I was using on the Dune, so I burned a disc from that ISO. The burned disc also plays the first chapter with no audio dropouts.
I would like to hear more about the issue you raise though?

i would also like to know more about this authoring problem...

I made a few audio check yesterday. Tried Tron, which was having audio drop outs a few firmwares back : no problem, plays perfect.

It also seems that Total recall is in fact an authoring problem (at least for the EU version) : Sony made a mistake on the extended version and is already aware about this problem. they just say "use PCM instead of bitstream, this should solve the drop outs". thanks guys, for not being able to create a proper BR disc, wouldn't be less surprised from the BR inventer rolleyes.gif

I then tried Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter (EU), which is also a 7.1, passed the fact that my D1 + BE is completely unable to read the disc (like Ice Age 4, both from Fox mad.gif), once ripped to movie only through DVDFab there was no audio drop outs...

So i guess that what rdgrimes said might be true, even if I never heard about it...
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post #9381 of 10108
1/8/13 at 7:41am
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

Zappiti is PC only, so if you want to run it you will need to use a virtual windows installed (with parallel desktops for example). DuneX is the only native Mac software for dune, unfortunately it doesn't have any iOS app.

Thanks, that is what I figured based on what I had come across. I supposed my other issue is going to be drive format for any external drive I attach then, considering I will need to theoretically read those drives on both OS X and the Dune, whether they're USB external or internal HDD mounted via a hub?
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post #9382 of 10108
1/8/13 at 8:51am
if i'm correct HFS is supported but only for read, not write. I don't think you can mount an internal HDD in HFS, only external, but I'm not sure...Best solution will be network file transfer instead of plugging/unplugging the HDD from/to the PC, this will certainly save you some time, some problems (not very safe to move a HDD or even the dune very often...) and will be easier to manage from your Mac.
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post #9383 of 10108
1/8/13 at 9:39am
Sorry, I didn't mean to be confusing. I will likely eventually add an internal and write to that, either via network or USB external drive as a shuttle. But any USB thumbdrive or external drive would need to be written to via OS X. It sounds like network is my best solution, and shuttling files may be more pain than it's worth. I really don't want to deal with FAT 32-formatted drives.

Thanks for your quick replies, Mr Eric! smile.gif
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post #9384 of 10108
1/8/13 at 2:49pm
I use MM on my MacBook air using parallels and it works just fine, I find transferring movies using the thunderbolt adapter not too fast, I have a 1.5 gb external HDD I think a passport. I transfer the movies onto it, plug it into my duo and copy and paste it to the folder I want. A 40gb movie takes like 25 min to transfer over.
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post #9385 of 10108
1/11/13 at 7:10pm
I received my Dune Max and got it set up tonight. I am having an issue accessing media that is stored on my Unraid server. I don't know if I am making a simple mistake, or if I am going about the configuration completely wrong.

I currently have an Unraid server that contains several drives. I created a share named "Movies" and can access this share from several computers. I have ripped several of my blu-rays to this share. Each movie is stored in a folder named after the movie.

On the Dune server, I clicked on SMB browse, but it says that it is empty. I tried to manually create a shortcut, but can't seem to connect. The following is the info I put in the shortcut config:

Name: movies
type: SMB
Server: \\192.168.1.131 (IP of Unraid Server)
Folder: \Movies
User:
password:

When I click on the shortcut, it says "cannot access network folder". Before putting the slashes in front of the IP address, it would say "cannot access network device", so I think I got past that issue.

Can someone help me with my configuration? I can see other computers on my network. I just can't seem to see the Unraid server that has all of my media.

Thanks,
Nick
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post #9386 of 10108
1/11/13 at 8:00pm
Can anyone confirm the latest firmware update does not break anything? I keep ignoring the update prompt... I thought someone mentioned in this thread that it caused some issues but I could be wrong.

Thanks!
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post #9387 of 10108
1/11/13 at 8:17pm
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Originally Posted by NGiovas View Post

I received my Dune Max and got it set up tonight. I am having an issue accessing media that is stored on my Unraid server. I don't know if I am making a simple mistake, or if I am going about the configuration completely wrong.

I currently have an Unraid server that contains several drives. I created a share named "Movies" and can access this share from several computers. I have ripped several of my blu-rays to this share. Each movie is stored in a folder named after the movie.

On the Dune server, I clicked on SMB browse, but it says that it is empty. I tried to manually create a shortcut, but can't seem to connect. The following is the info I put in the shortcut config:

Name: movies
type: SMB
Server: \\192.168.1.131 (IP of Unraid Server)
Folder: \Movies
User:
password:

When I click on the shortcut, it says "cannot access network folder". Before putting the slashes in front of the IP address, it would say "cannot access network device", so I think I got past that issue.

Can someone help me with my configuration? I can see other computers on my network. I just can't seem to see the Unraid server that has all of my media.

Thanks,
Nick

I got it to work. I didn't realize that in SMB you don't need the slashes. After removing them, I was able to browse my movies.
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post #9388 of 10108
1/13/13 at 6:57pm
Yadis question for the experts:
Can you hide the first screen that makes you choose between movies and tv shows? If you have no tv shows flagged as tv shows will it auto-hide that screen?

I have a good friend who uses yadis (Ivan) but I don't like how his male you choose the movies from that almost blank screen first.

Also I spoke to the Dine guys at CES and they showed me the next firmware that has a option on the folder when you press pop-menu that said something like "startup in this folder". He turned that on and then switched the power off on the back and back on and it launched my movies ( I think that was the index they were using), from power up.
This was on a 3D little guy ( TV3D?)
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post #9389 of 10108
1/13/13 at 7:30pm
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Originally Posted by Jon Spackman View Post

Also I spoke to the Dine guys at CES and they showed me the next firmware that has a option on the folder when you press pop-menu that said something like "startup in this folder". He turned that on and then switched the power off on the back and back on and it launched my movies ( I think that was the index they were using), from power up.
This was on a 3D little guy ( TV3D?)
This is for the current product (i.e. H1's) ?
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post #9390 of 10108
1/13/13 at 8:59pm
It was shown on the new platform, but they told me it should be added for the current series (D1, H1, etc.)

Typo of Dune in my last post. Lol
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