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post #9391 of 10108
1/14/13 at 1:00am
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Originally Posted by Jon Spackman View Post

Yadis question for the experts:
Can you hide the first screen that makes you choose between movies and tv shows? If you have no tv shows flagged as tv shows will it auto-hide that screen?

I have a good friend who uses yadis (Ivan) but I don't like how his male you choose the movies from that almost blank screen first.

you can't change the main menu. You can change the appearance (font, size, position), but not remove TV series or Movies access.

If you want for example to start right away with teh movie wall, the easiest solution is to create a direct shortcut. Just navigate to the movie wall, then press popup menu and add the wall to the favorites. This will create a shortcut in the dune UI that will bring you directly to the wall (you can do this with any part of yadis you want).

If you think that the main menu is a bit empty and boring, you can use the Red Carpet template which makes it very nice : http://www.mpcclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28388&page=2
Edited by Mr Eric - 1/14/13 at 1:12am
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post #9392 of 10108
1/14/13 at 7:56am
Forget about the Dune/Dine typo Jon what don't you like about Ivan's male? eek.gif
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post #9393 of 10108
1/14/13 at 8:09am
auto-correction always makes funny posts biggrin.gif
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post #9394 of 10108
1/14/13 at 1:11pm
Lol, Ivan's male is quite nice we actually shared a hotel room at CES... Oh wait.
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Seriously got to learn to proofread what I type before hitting reply
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post #9395 of 10108
1/15/13 at 12:33am
Has there been any more news when the new players will be available?
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post #9396 of 10108
1/15/13 at 4:15am
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

Has there been any more news when the new players will be available?

I believe in the n ext month or so the Zapp and Base 3D are supposed to be available (exactly where is still a little unclear).
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post #9397 of 10108
1/15/13 at 12:50pm
Thank you! Waiting on the base 3D!
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post #9398 of 10108
1/15/13 at 7:57pm
So I haven't been following this thread in a while. I got nervous the new Dunes will have cinavia and may not play full disc rips (iso or folders) so I ordered two more D1's and an H1 today which will bring me up to five Dunes. Are there any issues with recently manufactured Dunes and does anyone think I'm overly worried about the new Dunes' capabilities or are my fears correct?
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post #9399 of 10108
1/15/13 at 10:33pm
It depends if you want to play full menus or not. If you want full menus you made the right choice, if you don't need it then you could have bought the new base 3D, it will play everything like any dune but only in lite mode, without any menu, and won't have cinavia.
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post #9400 of 10108
1/16/13 at 1:47am
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Originally Posted by mrlittlejeans View Post

So I haven't been following this thread in a while. I got nervous the new Dunes will have cinavia and may not play full disc rips (iso or folders) so I ordered two more D1's and an H1 today which will bring me up to five Dunes. Are there any issues with recently manufactured Dunes and does anyone think I'm overly worried about the new Dunes' capabilities or are my fears correct?

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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

It depends if you want to play full menus or not. If you want full menus you made the right choice, if you don't need it then you could have bought the new base 3D, it will play everything like any dune but only in lite mode, without any menu, and won't have cinavia.

I actually just put together a quick post on the various Dune stuff (site appears to be . Similar to Mr Little Jeans I picked up a B1 recently.

I would just be careful with the upcoming new Dunes that rely on BD Lite as there are some issues (for full BR rip users improper seamless branch support and lack of forced subtitle support (this would affect main movie folks as well), possible HD Audio drops (Sigma only just fixed this in the 8911 chipset), etc...
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post #9401 of 10108
1/16/13 at 1:51am
Here is my post:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2013/01/15/dune-hd-news/

I kept some of the news a little vague honestly b/c right now there isn't enough info out there.

One interesting thing to note that I mentioned. We have been discussing here the whole issue with HD audio being downmixed to 2ch stereo and not multi PCM. Well, if you look at the specs of the Zappiti and Base 3D player, it would appear that the ability to decode to multi PCM will be available (at least in particular with the Base 3D specs it would seem to imply that)

Unless there are going to be some features that will be specific to only one player over the other, I can't see anything that stands out of why you would choose one over the other (especially since with upcoming fw for the Dunes you will be able to launch directly into a jukebox at startup)
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post #9402 of 10108
1/16/13 at 2:41am
I have a question about playing a Blu-ray ISO with full menus. I have an HD Max and when I select an ISO, it immediately starts playing the movie with no menus. How do I get the menu to come up first?

I have ripped all of my ISOs using Clown BD and have only removed previews. Does this also take out the menus?

Thanks,
Nick
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post #9403 of 10108
1/16/13 at 3:01am
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Originally Posted by NGiovas View Post

I have a question about playing a Blu-ray ISO with full menus. I have an HD Max and when I select an ISO, it immediately starts playing the movie with no menus. How do I get the menu to come up first?

I have ripped all of my ISOs using Clown BD and have only removed previews. Does this also take out the menus?

Thanks,
Nick

Yes, with clownbd you only get a main movie rip
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post #9404 of 10108
1/16/13 at 3:19am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Yes, with clownbd you only get a main movie rip

Good to know. Which tool will provide the full menu without the previews? (if any).
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post #9405 of 10108
1/16/13 at 3:23am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Here is my post:

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2013/01/15/dune-hd-news/

I kept some of the news a little vague honestly b/c right now there isn't enough info out there.

One interesting thing to note that I mentioned. We have been discussing here the whole issue with HD audio being downmixed to 2ch stereo and not multi PCM. Well, if you look at the specs of the Zappiti and Base 3D player, it would appear that the ability to decode to multi PCM will be available (at least in particular with the Base 3D specs it would seem to imply that)

Unless there are going to be some features that will be specific to only one player over the other, I can't see anything that stands out of why you would choose one over the other (especially since with upcoming fw for the Dunes you will be able to launch directly into a jukebox at startup)

just about this part :
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When the specs for the Zappiti player were first released if I recall the audio support was a little vague, with reference to DTSHD being left out. It appears this may have been corrected, and the current specs list support for DTSHD.

There's a little foot note (*) in the specs about DTS/DD HD, this foot note is not in the webpage (I guess this is a typo), but you can find it in the setup guide they just published :
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* Coming Soon.

guide is here : http://www.zappiti.com/Download/Zappiti_Player_qsg_lang_EN_FR.pdf

PS : the part about the B1 having problem with newer discs with new encryption method is unfortunately true, and I've been recently unable to play new Fox discs (Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter, Ice Age 4 to name it).
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post #9406 of 10108
1/16/13 at 4:08am
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Originally Posted by NGiovas View Post

Good to know. Which tool will provide the full menu without the previews? (if any).

Nick, I have had good luck with AnyDVD. Also, just to be sure check that you don't have "Play (lite)" selected under Setup-Miscellaneous-File Browser-"Enter" button on Blu-ray folder.
Edited by Stevetd - 1/16/13 at 4:17am
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post #9407 of 10108
1/16/13 at 4:22am
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Originally Posted by NGiovas View Post

Good to know. Which tool will provide the full menu without the previews? (if any).

DVDFab is able to do almost anything you want (movie only with audio selection, full rip including menus in BDVM or ISO, and more). I don't like the new UI of DVDFab9, but it's still the best ripper IMO (even if quite expensive...)
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post #9408 of 10108
1/16/13 at 4:49am
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Originally Posted by Stevetd View Post

Nick, I have had good luck with AnyDVD. Also, just to be sure check that you don't have "Play (lite)" selected under Setup-Miscellaneous-File Browser-"Enter" button on Blu-ray folder.

Thanks. I actually have AnyDVD. I was using Clown BD after reading about it here. I don't know why I was thinking clown used AnyDVD for the un-encyrption. I thought I had read that you had to load another app for the encryption piece. I guess I have some homework to do.
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post #9409 of 10108
1/16/13 at 5:22am
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

just about this part :
There's a little foot note (*) in the specs about DTS/DD HD, this foot note is not in the webpage (I guess this is a typo), but you can find it in the setup guide they just published :
guide is here : http://www.zappiti.com/Download/Zappiti_Player_qsg_lang_EN_FR.pdf

PS : the part about the B1 having problem with newer discs with new encryption method is unfortunately true, and I've been recently unable to play new Fox discs (Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter, Ice Age 4 to name it).

Yeah, saw the * but didn't see the reference when I was writing. So the Zapp has it listed as coming soon but the 3D Base there is no indication that it won't be available at launch this feature? This could be an important differentiation.

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Originally Posted by NGiovas View Post

Good to know. Which tool will provide the full menu without the previews? (if any).

I think Clown BD BD Copier would allow you to alter the setup but keep the menus:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Clown-BD-BD-Copier
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post #9410 of 10108
1/16/13 at 5:55am
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

Yeah, saw the * but didn't see the reference when I was writing. So the Zapp has it listed as coming soon but the 3D Base there is no indication that it won't be available at launch this feature? This could be an important differentiation.

Let's say that Dune is advertising some features while the HDLand/zappiti team has some serious doubt it will be implemented, at least for the first batch of players/firmware...That's why they cover themselves and keep it as part of a "future update". May be it will come shortly after launch, may be it will never be there (like for the 101/301). They just protect themselves by being a bit more conservative than Dune (but who reads the foot notes ????)
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post #9411 of 10108
1/16/13 at 6:06am
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

Let's say that Dune is advertising some features while the HDLand/zappiti team has some serious doubt it will be implemented, at least for the first batch of players/firmware...That's why they cover themselves and keep it as part of a "future update". May be it will come shortly after launch, may be it will never be there (like for the 101/301). They just protect themselves by being a bit more conservative than Dune (but who reads the foot notes ????)

lol, yeah, that is what I am thinking as well.Honestly you can't justify a $299 player if it cannot even handle HD Audio properly (I guess you could make the exception for downmix, but full HD Audio pass thru should be a given).
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post #9412 of 10108
1/16/13 at 6:14am
I guess my decision to go with MC-FLAC is finally paying off. I am not worried one bit about what HD audio format any of these Dunes handles.

/Sorry for the OT rant.
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post #9413 of 10108
1/16/13 at 11:37am
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Originally Posted by Killroy View Post

I guess my decision to go with MC-FLAC is finally paying off. I am not worried one bit about what HD audio format any of these Dunes handles.

/Sorry for the OT rant.

I was waiting for you to stop by biggrin.gif

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post #9414 of 10108
1/16/13 at 12:08pm
Is it confirmed that the Base3d price is now £299, if so that puts it at 477.92$ the original £259 seemed high but if it went up again that is a shame
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post #9415 of 10108
1/16/13 at 12:09pm
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Originally Posted by halfelite View Post

Is it confirmed that the Base3d price is now £299, if so that puts it at 477.92$ the original £259 seemed high but if it went up again that is a shame

No, USD 299 / EUR 299 (no conversion)

MSRP

USA: 299$
EU: 299 EURO
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post #9416 of 10108
1/16/13 at 12:52pm
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Originally Posted by dbone1026 View Post

No, USD 299 / EUR 299 (no conversion)

MSRP

USA: 299$
EU: 299 EURO

Ah that is good, was worried there. glad to see the kept the price down a little. So was the orginal price 259$ US?
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post #9417 of 10108
1/16/13 at 1:00pm
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Originally Posted by halfelite View Post

Ah that is good, was worried there. glad to see the kept the price down a little. So was the orginal price 259$ US?

I thought the original price that Zapp had announced was 259, but figured that wouldn't go over well having two differently priced Base 3D models.
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post #9418 of 10108
1/16/13 at 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

DVDFab is able to do almost anything you want (movie only with audio selection, full rip including menus in BDVM or ISO, and more). I don't like the new UI of DVDFab9, but it's still the best ripper IMO (even if quite expensive...)

Completely agree, best ripper/converter/creator and about the terrible UI. What were they thinking?!?!
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post #9419 of 10108
1/16/13 at 2:05pm
Interesting info on the new Dune stuff, I will see what I can share ...

Also, the Base 3D, 303D, etc ... are up for presale already on Duneplayer
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post #9420 of 10108
1/16/13 at 2:31pm
Try to share everything biggrin.gif
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