New Dune HD Max and HD Smart anticipation thread Q3 2010 - Page 318

One question, The internal wifi is optional or is included in the price.

Thanks!

I find it ironic that the original audio track has major issues (audio drops) but if you take the same exact track and properly demux it and convert it to DTS-MA you have a perfect audio track with out any issues...but of course that would be illegal and not allowed to be done with the current DMCA laws.

Hell, as of yesterday it's illegal to unlock your own cell phone under DMCA. Even if the contract is up. Politicians are scum. Damn near all of them.
Edited by Kirnak - 1/27/13 at 7:31pm

Please, no politics.

You're right, sorry. Edited out.

I copied my own GetGray calibration DVD over to my server so I could look at it through my Dune H1. I have a gradient ramp on that DVD. My video path isn't very direct either, I go Dune -> Marantz 8801 -> Lumagen -> Projector.

I have no banding whatsoever. None. I've never seen any banding from my Dune.

Interesting. I wonder if has anything to do with your test pattern being SD instead of HD? I'm thinking that the different color space and resolution might be a factor? Would you mind trying a pattern in HD to see if it makes a difference? Also, what display are you using? I'd love to figure out why mine has this issue and yours doesn't. What firmware are you using? Any tweaks in settings?

Thanks!

I don't think SD/HD matters here because grayscales are the same in either color space. You only get color errors when you start applying the wrong color conversions. ISF still today recommends my DVD in their classes for grayscale adjustments, regardless of HD/SD sources. But I'll load a HD test disc and look tonight if I can. My display is a projector. Digital Projection 3-chip DLP. Not sure what firmware I have on the Dune, current as far as I know. Definitely not very old in any case. No color tweaks. Everything is defaulted on the Dune as far as picture adjustments go. Video is served from ripped content on an external server.

I pulled my Dune out of the theater and brought it upstairs to check it with my Toshiba LED TV, and a Vizeo LCD upstairs. Same banding issue on the two TVs and my Epson 6020 projector in the theater. Also, all three displays showed no banding when the test disc is played from a Blueray player. The test disc resides in ISO format on the H1's internal HDD. Thanks for checking the HD source! I'm very interested to see your results.

Great disc by the way!

Following GetGray's example, I copied an .ISO of the AVS AVCHD disk to my server and looked at its gray scale gradient. At first I thought it was perfect; I didn't see any banding. But then I looked very, very carefully (squinting and using peripheral vision) and was able to spot a portion of the scale (in the exact middle) where two shades of medium gray do not flawlessly grade from one to the other. From that spot on, either towards the white end or towards the black end, the gradation is flawless So I guess I do see one very faint example of banding. I need to burn the image file to a disk and see if my Blu-Ray player eliminates the banding.

I suspect that the banding you're getting is a bit more obvious, Kirnak. I hate banding and see it fairly frequently in low quality DVDs. I have seen it in a few BRDs, but it has always been in the encoding. Like GetGray, I have never been aware of banding that was introduced by the Dune.

Like GetGray, I'm also using a fairly high-end DLP projector (in my case a single chip LED model). I wonder if our projectors de-empahsize this sort of banding, or perhaps your flat panel TVs emphasize the issue. It may not make a difference, but I'm sending Deep Color (12-bit) RGB from my video processor because that is what my projector likes most.

Another possibility is that I need a cataract operation a bit more than my eye doctor is letting on.

Thanks for the input!

Perhaps my PJ and flat panels just don't like 4:4:4 input. When I set my BR player to that, I got the banding. Switching to 4:2:2 or RGB eliminated the banding. I'll have to play with settings in my VP to see if I can fix the problem there. Regardless, if the chip allows it, Dune should allow for video pass through or selectable color space to eliminate incompatibilities like this.

Hi Dbone,

could confirm what the final product design?

I see two designs:


or this:


Includes integrated wifi? carries the hotswap bay?

Thanks in advanced!

My friend updated Dune h1 with latest patch. He connected 3tb Western digital my book external drive using USB connection and it has shown empty data. Do you know if anything need to be configured? I also have 3tb drive, but did not test it yet.

So downmix from dts hd ma to stereo works? not all my rooms have surround.

Over 2TB on USB will have problems. It may seem to work for a while, but then start throwing random "I/O Errors". Partitioning will not help.

Internal bay or eSata works, but not USB.

Yes, on my Dune B1 my 3TB drive will not show on usb. Used on the Esata port there is no problem..

Is this problem occurring in conjunction to the aforementioned latest patch?
I can confirm that without the patch, 3TB drives work perfectly fine over USB. I am using three WD Greens with no issues.

Interesting. What model Dune? Lots of people have had assorted issues with >2TB on USB, since forever. Perhaps it's only certain models of HDDs.

Dune Smart D1. I haven't updated the firmware in a while, could it be that recent firmwares have introduced compatibility problems?
Several posters on this thread have confirmed using 3TB drives via USB without issues.

No, I definitely recall hearing of problems since the first 3TB drives were available. Newer firmwares can properly format these drives (GPT) but there are still people having problems accessing them over USB. I even wrote all about it.

Which brand of hard drive are you using Scott?
Perhaps the compatibility problem is with your specific drive model.

You're probably right, but I'm not the one having problems, just reporting on others. I don't use any USB drives on my Dune.

Hi, I am using Dune Duo with 2x3TB WD Green HDDs. Sometimes, after restart, the second hard drive is not show at Sources. Another restart is fixing that but it is annoying.
It doesn't matter if the player is put in Standby or complete shutdown.

Wonder if it is an issue with the hdd itself. I have heard of similar issues with the WD green drives on other media players (such as PCH)

I have the same setup that is I use 3 tb green drives, one is a hitachi and the other I think is a WD. Never had a problem with them! Have you tried switching bays?

Just for fun, swap the HDDs with each other and see if its still the same one that goes missing.

I'm thinking of getting an D1 for my parents to replace their WDTV Live Plus that I can't stand. At my house I have a Base 3.0 and a D1 setup, but they are connected to my server so I don't know the answer to my following question. At my parents house, they just use and external HDD as they have no Cat6 cable run to their setup. So if I get them an D1 and they have the WiFi adapter (I'll give them the one that came free when I got my D1), can I transfer files over the network and write them to the external through the Dune? Or can you only copy to an internal drive on the Dune? I don't care if the transfers are slow, I just don't want to keep having to get behind their system, unhook the external, hook it to their computer, transfer the files and then go hook it up again.

Yes, the USB drive will show up on SMB and FTP once formatted. You can send files to it via WiFi.

Funny enough I just set this up for my dad, gave him my D1 with an external USB drive. However, to update I just have him bring the USB drive over to my house periodically and I update (using 10Muse as the jukebox)

What others have already said, but you do need to turn on the SMB server in the player, or FTP if you mean to use that. I have my Dune's drives mapped as network storage on my Windows PC so I can manage files from here.

But since you are all apparently on the same network, they can access shared files directly from their player - no need to transfer anything. Or, they can copy them on their own if the network is too slow for streaming.