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post #9661 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

New firmware is available for 3d models. Take the last one (b5). It seems to correct dts hd drop outs, seamless branching and adding mvc mkv compatibility.

If true, those guys are impressive eek.gif

If true that really is impressive. At the gym now (i know, a geek who actually lifts biggrin.gif) but will test as soon as i get home
post #9662 of 10805
Do you have a link for the firmwares?

Thanks..


Very exciting now!!! smile.gif
post #9663 of 10805
I'm wondering about using one of the Dunes with an internal 4TB drive, do any of the models support that? If so is there a list available of drives that work without issue?
I have BD & DVD ISO's & flac music on a NAS that I'd like to transfer the files from. Is this a fairly simple process if I choose to go through with it?
post #9664 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

I'm wondering about using one of the Dunes with an internal 4TB drive, do any of the models support that? If so is there a list available of drives that work without issue?
I have BD & DVD ISO's & flac music on a NAS that I'd like to transfer the files from. Is this a fairly simple process if I choose to go through with it?

I have a 3TB WD Green drive in my H1 and it works fine.
post #9665 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

I have a 3TB WD Green drive in my H1 and it works fine.
I am pretty sure the key for using the 3TB drives is to use the ESATA or internal sata connection. At least it was for me and my friends. The 3TB drives were not recognized on USB, but if used with either the ESATA connection or the internal SATA connection, drive was recognized and played files just fine...
post #9666 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Mr Eric View Post

New firmware is available for 3d models. Take the last one (b5). It seems to correct dts hd drop outs, seamless branching and adding mvc mkv compatibility.

If true, those guys are impressive eek.gif

Impressive is not strong enough of a word if true!
WOW. ..
dbone....quit playing with the dumb bells and get home and test it!
post #9667 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

I have a 3TB WD Green drive in my H1 and it works fine.

Does that mean a 4TB should as well? How did you get your files on it?

Oh, and since it's supposed to be "hot-swap" if I went with a 3TB and filled it up I could in theory just put files on another drive & swap them out at will? Maybe put my music and concert videos on one and movies on another...
post #9668 of 10805
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

Impressive is not strong enough of a word if true!
WOW. ..
dbone....quit playing with the dumb bells and get home and test it!

lol, back home from the gym. Searching for the beta 5 fw right now biggrin.gif
post #9669 of 10805
Apparently you need to first download b4, reboot, wait 5 minutes and then b5 will appear wink.gif

Take your time it seems that dune server is a bit busy right now biggrin.gif
post #9670 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

Does that mean a 4TB should as well? How did you get your files on it?

Oh, and since it's supposed to be "hot-swap" if I went with a 3TB and filled it up I could in theory just put files on another drive & swap them out at will? Maybe put my music and concert videos on one and movies on another...

The beauty of being able to swap out drives easily.
I have a dune base 3.0 and a himedia 900b
I do make a habit of always turning off the machines to remove and insert drives

I have drives in catagories
bluray
action
horror scifi
Dr Who
etc

and the same for dvd

its a fantastic way to store movies
I transferred all my dvd's and most blurays to drives now and boxed up hundreds of originals

I put all my files on the discs via my puter
All my files are ripped
dvd ---dvddecrypter
bluray --dvdfab

I convert all files to iso format---dunes love iso
post #9671 of 10805
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

I am pretty sure the key for using the 3TB drives is to use the ESATA or internal sata connection. At least it was for me and my friends. The 3TB drives were not recognized on USB, but if used with either the ESATA connection or the internal SATA connection, drive was recognized and played files just fine...

3TB drives work fine via USB as well (at least, the WD Green ones do.)
post #9672 of 10805
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Originally Posted by tightrope View Post

3TB drives work fine via USB as well (at least, the WD Green ones do.)
No, not all of them do. It also depends on how you have them formatted. I speak from experience..
post #9673 of 10805
holy crap dbone..it's been over 2 HOURS. Report REPORT! :-)
Oh, and please don't tell me kids and family got in the way! This is important stuff! :-)
post #9674 of 10805
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

holy crap dbone..it's been over 2 HOURS. Report REPORT! :-)
Oh, and please don't tell me kids and family got in the way! This is important stuff! :-)

Well, Dune was still trying to update over an hour ago, appears the server is real slow. Just left it on and will check again in a few to see what the deal is
post #9675 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rnrgagne View Post

Does that mean a 4TB should as well? How did you get your files on it?

Oh, and since it's supposed to be "hot-swap" if I went with a 3TB and filled it up I could in theory just put files on another drive & swap them out at will? Maybe put my music and concert videos on one and movies on another...

The Dune can manage files on any HDD, attached or internal or network. Copy, move, delete, etc. They can also be managed from your networked PC via SMB. So there's no particular reason to be swapping drives around, just connect them all to something on the network. That said, you can also get a HDD dock and connect that to your PC, then swap drives back and forth that way. (as long as the dock supports >2TB drives).


BTW, my WD Green 3TB also works just fine connected by USB. This is in a dock that's known to support >2TB drives.
Edited by rdgrimes - 2/22/13 at 8:22pm
post #9676 of 10805
At one point in time I was able to add Favorites to the Dune home screen. Now it isn't an option. I still have external system storage via my 2 GB external USB drive (but very little of it is being used. Does anyone have an idea what could be the problem? I'm going to try running "dune_service_init_system_storage.dsf" again, but am not sure what data I'm going to lose by doing so. I like the Dune remembering where I stopped watching a movie or which TV episode I last watched on a disk. Will I lose those?
post #9677 of 10805
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Originally Posted by comicguy View Post

No, not all of them do. It also depends on how you have them formatted. I speak from experience..

Well, on my system, they work fine. NTFS formatted, GPT partitioned, I currently have three connected via USB.
What brand of hard drive are you using?
post #9678 of 10805
My tv303d now has b5 but the clock widget still won't go away!
post #9679 of 10805
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Originally Posted by denass View Post

The beauty of being able to swap out drives easily.
I have a dune base 3.0 and a himedia 900b
I do make a habit of always turning off the machines to remove and insert drives

I convert all files to iso format---dunes love iso

Thanks, I've just had no luck getting stuff to stream from my NAS over my network using an A-210, it's sporadic at best and I've lost interest in trying to figure this thing out everytime. So thought I'd try a local drive in something more reliable. (The only thing that consistently works is my pre-amp with DNLA.)
The other thing is my 8TB NAS is just about at capacity with the raid I'm using, so transferring to new drives and just using it as a back-up without raid will increase my over-all capacity.

I have a ton of Blu Ray & DVD concerts, maybe as many as I have movies so two drives would work well, one for movies and one for music, since I usually do one or the other..

So I'm thinking of trying the H1 because of front loading and hot-swap.
(It says to use low RPM "cool" drives in the literature I've seen so I guess the WD "green" drives would do the trick?)
post #9680 of 10805
Can someone please help me with Zappiti in general and setting up the Dune Network icons on the main menu?

I've Dume Smart H1 player. I also have a NAS with Movies, Music, TV, and Zappiti folders in a SMB share called Mdeia. I have in icon (shortcut) on the Dune main menu to this Media share. I can open this share and can manually navigate to the various folders to view/play the files. If I navigate to the Zappiti folder, I can run Zappiti. However, when I create an icon on the main menu that points directly to any of these sub folders, it will not execute and I get a message like "Network Resource not found". I'm wondering if this could be a permission thing ... but don't understand how it could be. Also, I used to be able to create a 'Favorite' shortcut for Zappiti on the Dune's main menu, but the option no longer appears.

All of these files and folders are on a QNAP NAS, if it makes any difference. I am positive I was able to do this a year ago, but I've updated my NAS since then. I'm going to try removing the password for the media share, but after that I've got no other ideas.

Thanks in advance.

Edit: Well, I sort of fixed my Zappiti problems. The issue was part user error and part of the problem their incredibly bad UI. I think the Dune is great, but they sure could use better error messages and a better UI. I still don't understand why I cannot set certain things the way I'd like them, but things are working rather well now.
Edited by Hyrax - 2/23/13 at 9:54pm
post #9681 of 10805
So right now no luck updating my TV303d to the latest Beta, just get a blank screen
post #9682 of 10805
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Originally Posted by rdgrimes View Post

The drive should have been formatted NTFS when you got it. Plug it directly into your PC and check it out, reformat if desired. Worst case, take it out of the case and install internally in the Dune.

I already have a 2tb drive in my dune max. So you are saying is that the 3TB drive will work if I make it the internal drive? If so, I could take the hardrive out of the enclosure and swap out the drive in the Dune. Then take the 2TB that is inside my dune and put it in the 3TB enclosure (assuming the 2TB drive will fit in the 3TB enclosure).

If the above works, all the movies on the 2TB would probably map to a new drive name and I would need to remove the Zappiti meta data and re-scrape all those movies.

At the moment I am trying to do an NTFS format of the 3TB on my computer instead of at the Dune. Then I'll hook to the Dune and see if my access problems from computer to dune disappear.

My other easier but more $$ option is to retire an old 2TB backup drives at my computer and swap it out with the new 3TB drive and buy the 2TB version of the Seagate drive for the Dune. I don't want to start using a 2+ year used drive to back up movies at the Dune. Would rather start with a fresh drive.
post #9683 of 10805
Oh Happy Day! 3TB issue solved.

So others can hook up their 3TB and maybe 4 TB drives I'll list my mistakes and how I got things working

The troubleshooting

1. First mistake - I connected the drive to the USB Hub at the Dune and formatted as ext2 - it formatted fine, but the 3TB seagate drive needs to be formatted as NTFS
2. Not knowing I needed to format as NTFS yet, I tried EXT3. Format worked but I still could not connect to the drive from my computer.
3. Came here and read it needs to be formatted as NTFS. So I formatted at the Dune as NTFS and it seemed to format fine but still could not connect to the drive from Computer to Dune.

4. I unhooked drive, hooked to my Win7 computer and could not read disk at all while hooked to my computer so and tried to format via windows explorer right click on drive. First quick format - got failed message. Then slow format, after about 20 minutes of formatting got a format failed message.

The solution

5. Went to control panel / Create and format hard disk partitions - This brings up Disk manager

6. I noticed right away that the drive was still in EXT2 format. (Dune format to NTFS was apparently failing)
7. I tried to format as NTFS through the disc manager and got the format error message.
8. Right clicked on the primary partition and clicked delete volume. This wiped the entire partition.
9. Tried a NTFS format again while in disk manager and it successfully formated as NTFS.
10. Took the drive back downstairs and hooked it to my Dune and now I can connect to the drive via my computer and am moving a ripped movie as I write.

Thoughts


If I hooked to my computer, deleted the extra backup junk on the external and then hooked to my Dune I don't think I would have had any issues. However, with a new 3 TB drive, to be safe, do a full NTFS format of the drive at your computer before hooking to the Dune. Don't trust your Dune to do the formatting like you can with 2TB drives and don't believe what your Dune says it is formatted as. If you are getting read/access errors your NTFS format is corrupted. Format on your computer and save some time.
post #9684 of 10805
I just picked up a Dune HD Smart D1 and I can't get this thing to output video through my receiver. Hoping someone here might have an idea what's going on.

Equipment:

Pioneer 5020FD
Pioneer SC-1222-K (latest firmware)
Pioneer BDP-51FD
Boxee Box
Apple TV
Dune HD Smart D1 (latest firmware)

I bought the Dune from eBay and was excited to hook it up and replace my Boxee Box. I pulled the HDMI cable from the back of the Boxee and plugged in the Dune. The HDMI light comes on my receiver for a second and then it starts blinking every 10 seconds or so with no picture on the TV. I then hooked the Dune directly to the TV and I got a picture and was able to reset all the settings and verify that it had the latest firmware.

After resetting the Dune to factory I decided to plug it back in to my receiver (1222-K). It boots up and I get the Dune logo then it goes dark and the HDMI light goes out on my receiver again. I replaced the HDMI cable from the receiver to the TV with a non Redmere cable as I thought that might be causing an issue, but I still wasn't getting an HDMI sync. I then tried a few other cables I had laying around with no luck.

As a last ditch effort to get this working I went and bought two GE HDMI 1.4 cables from Home Depot and replaced the cable from the receiver to the TV and the cable from the Dune to the receiver. Still no luck, the HDMI light on my receiver goes out shortly after displaying the Dune logo. All of my other gear works fine through this setup, just not the Dune.

I also noticed that the Dune I received from eBay did not include the correct power supply (it came with a power supply that said "Roku" on it). The Roku power supply seems to work since the unit powers on and the HDMI out works fine while directly connected to the TV. Is there any way that this is causing the issue? Should I suspect anything else faulty with the Dune or does the issue lie with the SC-1222-K?
post #9685 of 10805
The best way is to format on a computer to NTFS--do all new drives this way
glad you had success
post #9686 of 10805
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Originally Posted by tbooth View Post

I just picked up a Dune HD Smart D1 and I can't get this thing to output video through my receiver. Hoping someone here might have an idea what's going on.
Sounds to me as though the Dune is working fine, but your receiver doesn't like it. Is it possible that the Dune is outputting a 480i (or 480p) resolution or a PAL timing? My Denon receiver cannot accept 480i input via HDMI. What happens when you press the Setup button when attached to the receiver. If nothing happens, connect it back to your TV and press setup again. Then go to the Video settings and (if needed) select a resolution your receiver can accept.
post #9687 of 10805
What Hyrax said would be my guess as well. If the Dune is appearing then goes black, its outputting at a resolution your receiver can't handle. You can manually change the resolutions by hitting (i believe) the mode button right after turning the dune on (while the dune logo is visible). This will cycle through the different resolution modes.
post #9688 of 10805
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Originally Posted by Hyrax View Post

Sounds to me as though the Dune is working fine, but your receiver doesn't like it. Is it possible that the Dune is outputting a 480i (or 480p) resolution or a PAL timing? My Denon receiver cannot accept 480i input via HDMI. What happens when you press the Setup button when attached to the receiver. If nothing happens, connect it back to your TV and press setup again. Then go to the Video settings and (if needed) select a resolution your receiver can accept.

I've tried hitting setup and nothing happens. I've tried several of the resolution options (1080p60, 1080p24, 1080p23.976, 720p60, 1080i60, 1080p59.94, 1080p30) in the video settings and none of them will show up once I reconnect to the receiver. All of these work connected directly to the TV. frown.gif I just got this receiver at the beginning of January and it's worked fantastically until now.
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Originally Posted by jconjason View Post

What Hyrax said would be my guess as well. If the Dune is appearing then goes black, its outputting at a resolution your receiver can't handle. You can manually change the resolutions by hitting (i believe) the mode button right after turning the dune on (while the dune logo is visible). This will cycle through the different resolution modes.

I've cycled through all the resolutions that the Mode button offers and none of them result in the HDMI light staying lit on my receiver.

Is anyone else here using a current model Pioneer receiver with the Dune?
post #9689 of 10805
I doubt the HDMI cables from HD are very good. How long are they? Lumagen strongly recommends HDMI cable at least 6' long. I've used shorter ones in the past and had problems. Maybe that will help.
post #9690 of 10805
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

I doubt the HDMI cables from HD are very good. How long are they? Lumagen strongly recommends HDMI cable at least 6' long. I've used shorter ones in the past and had problems. Maybe that will help.

The GE cables I bought are 6ft. I also have several 10ft. slim Redmere cables from Monoprice and I get the same results. Any recommended cables that are reasonably priced that I should try?
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