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post #241 of 6184
10/1/10 at 1:14pm
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Originally Posted by bumpy1 View Post

Wondering if someone in the know can confirm wether or not the NTV550 can be controlled over an IP network, in the same way the EVA 8000 and EVA 9150 can ? And if so, is the same command set used to control the player ?

Thanks.

If you are refering to sjcmd as used with the 8000/9150, tha tis still supported.
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post #242 of 6184
10/2/10 at 11:15am
There are two command sets I know of that could be used to control the player:

GET /IssueRCCommand.htm?key=

Which issues HTTP commands like ON, OFF, GUIDE, LEFT, RIGHT ,etc, to the EVA's web server

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Directly transmitting key codes to port 49156 on the EVA to emulate remote control codes like *, #, numbers, etc.

Are both of these facilities still available for use on the NTV550 ?
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post #243 of 6184
10/2/10 at 2:44pm
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Originally Posted by bumpy1 View Post

There are two command sets I know of that could be used to control the player:

GET /IssueRCCommand.htm?key=

Which issues HTTP commands like ON, OFF, GUIDE, LEFT, RIGHT ,etc, to the EVA's web server

AND

Directly transmitting key codes to port 49156 on the EVA to emulate remote control codes like *, #, numbers, etc.

Are both of these facilities still available for use on the NTV550 ?

I can't imagine that this changed from the 9150 to the NTV550, but you never know. The code for the Neo was totally new, not ported from the 9150 like the 9150's code was from the 8000. If you have some scripts that demonstrate this and you'd like me to try, PM me and I'll give you my email address and you can send them to me.
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post #244 of 6184
10/4/10 at 4:41pm
Any luck confirming if the 550 supports IP Control?
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post #245 of 6184
10/4/10 at 10:46pm
I just went through the NETGEAR NeoTV 550 (NTV550) review.

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Originally Posted by NETGEAR NeoTV 550 (NTV550) review View Post


You can also have audio on the digital and analogue outputs at the same time too. You couldn't ask for more really!

Well I can ask for more: Where are the analog outputs?

I only see the HDMI and the optical outputs. I also see an "A/V Out" output, but it is reported to be for composite video. Is it also for audio out?

If I buy this, which seems likely, it will be for its gapless-audio feature. I need analog-audio-out for that.
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post #246 of 6184
10/4/10 at 11:14pm
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

I just went through the NETGEAR NeoTV 550 (NTV550) review.


Well I can ask for more: Where are the analog outputs?

I only see the HDMI and the optical outputs. I also see an "A/V Out" output, but it is reported to be for composite video. Is it also for audio out?

If I buy this, which seems likely, it will be for its gapless-audio feature. I need analog-audio-out for that.

Hmm, good question. If you look closely at the first picture on that review you'll see the composite video lead. It looks like a 3-plug affair (red, yellow and white). So, you'll get stereo audio through via that connection.
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post #247 of 6184
10/4/10 at 11:33pm
Thanks, OnlyMe.

I did not think to look at that first picture that closely. When I look now, I do see the red, but I can't see a white or yellow. But they must be there, as a composite connector, which is mentioned in the review, would be yellow, and you can clearly see from the cable itself that it is a three-connector cable. You must be right, and the other connectors are simply not visible.

But that would mean that the 3.5mm plug has at least four connections, which would be an unusual animal.
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post #248 of 6184
10/4/10 at 11:38pm
I thought the Netgear was the only one (under $300) capable of playing blu-ray iso/M2TS files, but from what the Asus site indicates, their newest box (out next week in the UK and on Oct. 25 in the US) does so as well?

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=DceQIksZXZHJIO6K

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/a...hing-this-week

Also, the Asus has reportedly completely re-vamped their user interface, will have an iPhone app that allows the iPhone to be used as a remote, has USB 3.0, has an Opera browser, and can pass Dolby TrueHD 7.1. Plus with the price of the Asus reported as being $129.99 U.S., I'm just wondering what the Netgear box does better or why I might want to pay more for their streamer? Edit: I guess the Netgear box does pass DTS HD while the Asus does not. But any other differences?
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post #249 of 6184
10/5/10 at 12:22am
May be one another difference can be (in favour of the Netgear) the possibility to play protected content directly from an USB/eSATA external DVD/BRD unit?

And what about firmware updates/speed/usability, and the technical post sales support...? In theory, lots of nmp in the market are very attractive, but fails in one (or more) of the just mentioned aspects.

Ciao!
Marco
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post #250 of 6184
10/5/10 at 1:16am
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

Thanks, OnlyMe.

I did not think to look at that first picture that closely. When I look now, I do see the red, but I can't see a white or yellow. But they must be there, as a composite connector, which is mentioned in the review, would be yellow, and you can clearly see from the cable itself that it is a three-connector cable. You must be right, and the other connectors are simply not visible.

But that would mean that the 3.5mm plug has at least four connections, which would be an unusual animal.

Not THAT unusual. See here
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post #251 of 6184
10/5/10 at 2:06am
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Originally Posted by halloweenboy View Post

I thought the Netgear was the only one (under $300) capable of playing blu-ray iso/M2TS files, but from what the Asus site indicates, their newest box (out next week in the UK and on Oct. 25 in the US) does so as well?

Just about any player these days can play Blu-ray ISO/M2TS files; but only a select few can play full Blu-ray structures with menus, special features, picture-in-picture and so on. The Netgear is in the second category along with the PCH C-200 and the Dune (but is cheaper than either); the Asus looks like it's firmly in the first category along with everybody else.
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post #252 of 6184
10/5/10 at 2:38am
In addition to peterjcat comments another reason why this player (asus) is not even worth mentioning in this thread: Click Me
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post #253 of 6184
10/5/10 at 3:19am
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Originally Posted by 720p View Post

In addition to peterjcat comments another reason why this player (asus) is not even worth mentioning in this thread: Click Me

Perhaps that's a speaker grill
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post #254 of 6184
10/5/10 at 10:08am
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Originally Posted by peterjcat View Post

Just about any player these days can play Blu-ray ISO/M2TS files; but only a select few can play full Blu-ray structures with menus, special features, picture-in-picture and so on. The Netgear is in the second category along with the PCH C-200 and the Dune (but is cheaper than either); the Asus looks like it's firmly in the first category along with everybody else.

Thanks for that info, that helps to clear up some of my confusion!


According to trusted reviews, the fan is quiet: "Seeing a tiny fan at the back of this Asus media player, we were afraid it wouldn't matter much either way, expecting it to be rather noisy like with the A.C.Ryan Playon!HD. However, thankfully this was not the case. In fact, without a moving-parts drive installed, the O!Play HD2 runs so quietly that you have to get really close before you can even tell it's on. We would definitely recommend installing some form of internal storage, though, as without it the player's NAS functionality (which we'll cover later) simply won't work."

[url]http://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedia/review/2010/09/29/Asus-O-Play-HD2/p1
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post #255 of 6184
10/5/10 at 10:33am
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In addition to peterjcat comments another reason why this player (asus) is not even worth mentioning in this thread: Click Me

I like the idea that it has a USB 3.0 slave port.
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post #256 of 6184
10/5/10 at 12:05pm
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Originally Posted by halloweenboy View Post

According to trusted reviews, the fan is quiet

Unfortunately no such thing as a quiet fan. All fans are noisy. Won't go into this, discussed to death many times before. Anyone can slap a 10c fan inside a case, fanless designs have to be engineered.

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Originally Posted by Perpendicular View Post

I like the idea that it has a USB 3.0 slave port.

I don't. Any connection outside:
1) power
2) ethernet
3) hdmi
is useless as far as I'm concerned and wouldn't like to pay for it.
Same goes for any provision for internal storage.
RF remote so the unit can be stored out of site and reach a bonus.
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post #257 of 6184
10/5/10 at 12:32pm
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Originally Posted by OnlyMe View Post

Hmm, good question. If you look closely at the first picture on that review you'll see the composite video lead. It looks like a 3-plug affair (red, yellow and white). So, you'll get stereo audio through via that connection.

Slightly incorrect...

The far left RCA jacks are the component video (G/B/R). The stereo analog audio comes from the small mini earphone type plug just to the right of the component video output.
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post #258 of 6184
10/5/10 at 12:40pm
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

If I buy this, which seems likely, it will be for its gapless-audio feature. I need analog-audio-out for that.

Why? Analog audio is not a requirement for gapless playback. It works just fine using the digital audio outputs.
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post #259 of 6184
10/5/10 at 12:57pm
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Originally Posted by robkwil61 View Post

Slightly incorrect...

The far left RCA jacks are the component video (G/B/R). The stereo analog audio comes from the small mini earphone type plug just to the right of the component video output.

Sorry, I was talking about the picture here Box Contents. The plastic packet on the left looks like the composite lead. You can see the red rca connector and what looks like the yellow connector underneath the red one just to the left of it. And another connector just to the right of the red one although I can't tell what colour it is.

But you've confirmed our suspicions (analogue audio out) anyway so I'm happy
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post #260 of 6184
10/5/10 at 1:15pm
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

I just went through the NETGEAR NeoTV 550 (NTV550) review.


Well I can ask for more: Where are the analog outputs?

I only see the HDMI and the optical outputs. I also see an "A/V Out" output, but it is reported to be for composite video. Is it also for audio out?

If I buy this, which seems likely, it will be for its gapless-audio feature. I need analog-audio-out for that.


The NeoTV550 in fact does have analog audio outputs. It has the full composite connection including audio and video with a 3-1 jack.

Bob Silver
Netgear AV Consultant
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post #261 of 6184
10/5/10 at 1:35pm
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Originally Posted by halloweenboy View Post

I thought the Netgear was the only one (under $300) capable of playing blu-ray iso/M2TS files, but from what the Asus site indicates, their newest box (out next week in the UK and on Oct. 25 in the US) does so as well?

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=DceQIksZXZHJIO6K

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/a...hing-this-week

Also, the Asus has reportedly completely re-vamped their user interface, will have an iPhone app that allows the iPhone to be used as a remote, has USB 3.0, has an Opera browser, and can pass Dolby TrueHD 7.1. Plus with the price of the Asus reported as being $129.99 U.S., I'm just wondering what the Netgear box does better or why I might want to pay more for their streamer? Edit: I guess the Netgear box does pass DTS HD while the Asus does not. But any other differences?

No DTS-HDMA? ("DTS Digital Surround" is not the same thing at all.) Am I missing something? If not, the Asus does not compete with the 550.
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post #262 of 6184
10/5/10 at 2:04pm
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Originally Posted by robkwil61 View Post

Why? Analog audio is not a requirement for gapless playback. It works just fine using the digital audio outputs.

Sorry, you misunderstood. I need analog outputs for audio, in order to hook to my Sansui BA-2000. I didn't mean to imply that you need analog for gapless-audio.
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post #263 of 6184
10/5/10 at 2:09pm
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Originally Posted by 720p View Post

I don't. Any connection outside:

You need to think "Outside" the box.
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post #264 of 6184
10/6/10 at 3:27pm
The analog outputs are on a mini phone plug jack that also includes composite video as well.
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post #265 of 6184
10/6/10 at 5:06pm
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

Sorry, you misunderstood. I need analog outputs for audio, in order to hook to my Sansui BA-2000. I didn't mean to imply that you need analog for gapless-audio.

No, I figured that you needed analog to hook up to your equipment. I just wanted to make sure no one else misunderstood and got the idea that analog was required for gapless.
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post #266 of 6184
10/6/10 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by bobsilver View Post

The analog outputs are on a mini phone plug jack that also includes composite video as well.

Oddest looking phone plug I've ever seen.

Is there a spec on that cable? We beta testers were not provided with one. Can it be purchased at say a Radio Shack or Best Buy?
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post #267 of 6184
10/6/10 at 11:33pm
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Originally Posted by halloweenboy View Post

I thought the Netgear was the only one (under $300) capable of playing blu-ray iso/M2TS files, but from what the Asus site indicates, their newest box (out next week in the UK and on Oct. 25 in the US) does so as well?

http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=DceQIksZXZHJIO6K

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/04/a...hing-this-week

Also, the Asus has reportedly completely re-vamped their user interface, will have an iPhone app that allows the iPhone to be used as a remote, has USB 3.0, has an Opera browser, and can pass Dolby TrueHD 7.1. Plus with the price of the Asus reported as being $129.99 U.S., I'm just wondering what the Netgear box does better or why I might want to pay more for their streamer? Edit: I guess the Netgear box does pass DTS HD while the Asus does not. But any other differences?

I bought both the O!Play and the O!Play Air. The former was well worth it. The Air was less than optimal and their support was not great. The interface was mundane. I like Asus but after those two players I think I'd be a bit careful. Is Opera activated out of the box? How is it controlled?

philip
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post #268 of 6184
10/7/10 at 2:24pm
Hope this will go up on Amazon soon... Same price as boxee and due to be released at the same time will make November a fun month. I hope to test drive both and keep the winner.
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post #269 of 6184
10/8/10 at 9:03am
robkwil61,

Thanks for your input in this thread. I'm wondering if there has been anything interesting done, or noticeable fixes or speed improvements, in the recent (or today's) firmware update? I doubt it, since they must be packaging and prepping for launch by now.

I was really considering the BoxeeBox, but I think i'll go with this. I won't have to convert my BD ISOs to MKVs, and I know what I'm getting with this box. I think the BoxeeBox and GoogleTV will eclipse this eventually, but the NTV550 sounds good right now.
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post #270 of 6184
10/8/10 at 9:20am
I just checked Netgear's site, and the status has changed to "available for preorder", instead of "out of stock", so things are progressing.

A few weeks ago, it was listed as "in stock", but that must have been an error, whereas this change seems to reflect an approaching release date.
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