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post #511 of 6184
From a few Posts back:

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Originally Posted by bobsilver View Post

The Neo 550 will begin shipping early December in the US. Netgear is finalizing the software and adding improved online content. Initially the units will be available in Frys and Amazon.

Bob Silver
Netgear AV Consultant.

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post #512 of 6184
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Originally Posted by lsarver View Post

Not to be argumentative, but that is not Source Direct. No intervention should be necessary.

Fair enough. All I meant was that at least you can get a relatively untouched signal out of the box with a little manual effort -- better than if upscaling were unavoidable, clearly not as good as automatic adjustment.
post #513 of 6184
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

Can you elaborate? Like what? I guess I'm in "movie server" mode and all of those should have valid resolutions. Only example I can think of is static photos which could be all over the place, but all video ought to be a reasonable (valid) resolution.

As for framerate selection, etc. What about color information, does it do any RGB conversions, or passing the color unmunged?

Yep, all 1:1 DVD or BD backups (ISO, VIDEO_TS, BDMV) should have valid resolutions, but anything that has been recoded either by yourself or, ahem, someone else on the Internet could be anything, eg 1920 x 800, 480p or 720p @ 24fps, and so on. There should still be a sane way to automatically choose the closest output resolution, but it's no longer as simple as the old DVD players that only had 480i60 and 576i50 to choose between, and most of the manufacturers seem to think that a built-in ********** downloader is a more attractive feature than untouched playback of 1:1 material.

Colour information I believe is now preserved on the Dune, though all of the players have had some problems getting it right and there may still be some residual issues. At least that's something they seem to be working on.
post #514 of 6184
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Originally Posted by peterjcat View Post

Fair enough. All I meant was that at least you can get a relatively untouched signal out of the box with a little manual effort -- better than if upscaling were unavoidable, clearly not as good as automatic adjustment.

We aren't asking for "automatic adjustment," but for no adjustment, i.e., after the decoder the signal should just bypass processing and be output directly.
post #515 of 6184
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Originally Posted by lsarver View Post

We aren't asking for "automatic adjustment," but for no adjustment, i.e., after the decoder the signal should just bypass processing and be output directly.

so you want a player with no OSD.......sounds great?
post #516 of 6184
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Originally Posted by lsarver View Post

We aren't asking for "automatic adjustment," but for no adjustment, i.e., after the decoder the signal should just bypass processing and be output directly.

Exactly.
post #517 of 6184
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Originally Posted by lsarver View Post

We aren't asking for "automatic adjustment," but for no adjustment, i.e., after the decoder the signal should just bypass processing and be output directly.

Someone should post this request on the main netgear forums. The developers read the forums and if they see that a lot of people want this functionality then they may just add it.
post #518 of 6184
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Originally Posted by OnlyMe View Post

Someone should post this request on the main netgear forums. The developers read the forums and if they see that a lot of people want this functionality then they may just add it.

I suggested this several days ago yet no one has joined and brought up the discussion. It is better to make requests on Netgear's forums than here. Although technically they are user forums, the devs do sometimes answer questions.
post #519 of 6184
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Originally Posted by robkwil61 View Post

I suggested this several days ago yet no one has joined and brought up the discussion. It is better to make requests on Netgear's forums than here. Although technically they are user forums, the devs do sometimes answer questions.

Ah, sorry. Must have missed your post.
post #520 of 6184
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Originally Posted by OnlyMe View Post

Ah, sorry. Must have missed your post.

No big deal. I still think if users are interested in this feature they should voice their opinion over at Netgear's forum.
post #521 of 6184
Guess some one should start a thread.

http://forum1.netgear.com/forumdisplay.php?f=111
post #522 of 6184
OK. I signed up and posted. It said it had to go through a moderator before it would show. I put it in the NEo 550 sub-forum
http://forum1.netgear.com/forumdisplay.php?f=111. I must say that activity there looks pretty low.
I titled the thread "Source Direct Feature Request".

Maybe that will help. Please do join in on that request once the moderator activates it. If the forum is somewhere else and that's the wrong place, please advise.
post #523 of 6184
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

OK. I signed up and posted. It said it had to go through a moderator before it would show. I put it in the NEo 550 sub-forum
http://forum1.netgear.com/forumdisplay.php?f=111. I must say that activity there looks pretty low.
I titled it Source Direct Feature Request.

Maybe that will help. Please do join in on that request once the moderator activates it.


It shouldn't take long for it to show up.

And it's there
post #524 of 6184
Quote from other thread:
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Originally Posted by robkwil61 View Post

Well I can tell you that the gapless playback has some "gotchas". First, you have to queue up the full album which will start playing from the first song...

robkwil61, what do you mean writing "you have to queue"? Is it mean, that the user of Neo have to make some playlist, or playing files from one folder (containing songs from one album for example) is enough, and the player do queue automatically?
post #525 of 6184
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Originally Posted by wiatrak View Post

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robkwil61, what do you mean writing "you have to queue"? Is it mean, that the user of Neo have to make some playlist, or playing files from one folder (containing songs from one album for example) is enough, and the player do queue automatically?

It just means you have to select the whole album to play first. Basically as you browse your albums, you highlight the album and hit PLAY on the remote. If you were browsing by song titles, and selected the second song of a gapless album, it will not play from that point on gapless.
post #526 of 6184
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Originally Posted by robkwil61 View Post

If you were browsing by song titles, and selected the second song of a gapless album, it will not play from that point on gapless.

What's the logic behind that?
post #527 of 6184
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Originally Posted by lsarver View Post

We aren't asking for "automatic adjustment," but for no adjustment, i.e., after the decoder the signal should just bypass processing and be output directly.

I'm not talking about adjusting the source material, I'm talking about the player adjusting its output to match the source material. It's naturally not possible for the player to just output the source directly, as the next stage in the chain won't understand it. The player has to decode the source into a format that it can pass on. We all want that format to be as faithful to the source material as possible. But this idea of the player as a pure transport is only a metaphor, there are plenty of adjustments the player itself needs to make in order to properly transform the raw bitstream into the image we want.
post #528 of 6184
I'm not getting anywhere with Netgear. Their forum is moderated, posts a slow to appear, and an apparent resident forum "person" has told me the forum isnt' the place to post sucha request. So far, I'm not liking my Netgear experience, even a little .
http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=57456&page=1

Next...
post #529 of 6184
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

I'm not getting anywhere with Netgear.
http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=57456&page=1

Wow, their moderator seems like the kind of guy who get a job as a bouncer so that he can push people around.

I was leaning toward the Neo, but not if that is what their support is like.
post #530 of 6184
That dude barely has a grasp of the English language.

And who has 57,000 posts in 3.5 years on any forum? Dude has 45 posts EVERY day. You'd think with that many posts he would have learned English by now.
post #531 of 6184
Well, I can't critisize anyones english. You'd think mine was bad if my typing had to speak for me all the time . But, no not a friendly guy...
post #532 of 6184
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Originally Posted by GetGray View Post

Well, I can't critisize anyones english. You'd think mine was bad if my typing had to speak for me all the time . But, no not a friendly guy...

Looks like a Netgear employee tasked with responding in the forums. But a surprising choice seeing his command of the language.

I feel the preceived rudeness is because of the language skill gap and the amount of posts he has to churn out.

It is obvious that he does not even know what Neotv550 is supposed to be. Just threw out some standard support channel mumbo-jumbo in response
post #533 of 6184
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Originally Posted by wagabond View Post

Looks like a Netgear employee tasked with responding in the forums. But a surprising choice seeing his command of the language.

I feel the preceived rudeness is because of the language skill gap and the amount of posts he has to churn out.

It is obvious that he does not even know what Neotv550 is supposed to be. Just threw out some standard support channel mumbo-jumbo in response

Probably. But it would have been better left unanswered, I think. The place he finally suggested does not look like a good place to go asking, either. No time to pursue it...
post #534 of 6184
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

Wow, their moderator seems like the kind of guy who get a job as a bouncer so that he can push people around.

I was leaning toward the Neo, but not if that is what their support is like.

According to what you can see in the members list he is not a moderator. I am not entirely sure if he even belongs to netgear or if he just is a wannebe. You may consider to report his postings, I just did.
post #535 of 6184
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Originally Posted by ThomasG. View Post

According to what you can see in the members list he is not a moderator.

Hi Thomas. You're right. I made a bad assumption, based on attitude (both his and mine).

A moderator just chimed in on that thread.
post #536 of 6184
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Originally Posted by MarkHotchkiss View Post

A moderator just chimed in on that thread.

Yepp, that was fast, wasn't it?
post #537 of 6184
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Originally Posted by ThomasG. View Post

According to what you can see in the members list he is not a moderator. I am not entirely sure if he even belongs to netgear or if he just is a wannebe. You may consider to report his postings, I just did.

I think the REAL mod came in there and told the rude wanna be to leave the thread....alone. That wanna be is under the influence of something..
post #538 of 6184
Well, "funny" situation: a Senior Member posts more than 50K messages (NETGEAR Fanatic) and a mod with less than 30 ("NETGEAR Newbie"... ).

Ciao!
Marco
post #539 of 6184
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Originally Posted by poe_ope View Post

Well, "funny" situation: a Senior Member posts more than 50K messages (NETGEAR Fanatic) and a mod with less than 30 ("NETGEAR Newbie"... ).

Oh well, this is just another proof that the number of postings is of no relevance regarding their importance.
post #540 of 6184
I don't think June Mizoguchi meant to be rude. I just think he has a poor command of the English language. And with that many posts, I'd say he has no life outside of forums.

Chirpa is actually a moderator and a member of the Jedi Council for the ReadyNAS forums. However post counts don't cross over from the Infrant forums to the Netgear forums, so don't let his low post count fool you. He probably got wind of the discussion and popped over to address the situation, which he does on rare occasions.

I don't beleive Beisser or Chirpa are actualy Netgear employees though. I may be wrong about Chirpa.
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