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post #1651 of 2387
I wonder if three , four, or even five EQs cascading one after another makes the sound even better and better and better.rolleyes.gif
post #1652 of 2387
Ha ha, it might if done right =^P More than likely it's going to cause more noise than good tho, heh.
post #1653 of 2387
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Originally Posted by fjames View Post

I just went from "huh?' to buying one in a few hours. Maybe I can stop being grumpy now at not having XT32 biggrin.gif

I am loving my SR7005, too, but now that I am aware of the benefit(s) of XT32 I am grumpy. Wondering if this upgrade could be addressed in a firmware update?
post #1654 of 2387
No, sorry, this has been discussed earlier in the thread a few times. Even though the chip inside may in theory be able to accommodate it, the electronics of the AV7005 do not have two discrete signal paths for the two subwoofer outs. {It is internally simply a Y-cord}. XT32 needs dedicated subwoofer electronics so it can vary the phase ("distance") and level of the two.
post #1655 of 2387
^^^The new onkyo 818 has XT32, but no subEQ HT, and has the internal y cord. They are 2 different features so XT32 does not automatically mean subEQ as well. As far as a firmware update...I wouldn't hold my breath as it appears that the new marantz line coming out doesn't even include XT32.
post #1656 of 2387
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Originally Posted by djPerfectTrip View Post

^^^The new onkyo 818 has XT32... and has the internal y cord. .
[emphasis mine]

Wanna bet?
post #1657 of 2387
There was a big ol discussion about that in the 818 thread, but if you can prove otherwise than I'm sure a whole ton of people would be extremely happy about that. Shoot, I'd be a bit bummed myself as I passed over the 818 and went with the 4311 because everything I read on it said the same thing. The manual even says that the same signal is passed thru both sub pre-outs. It's pretty safe to assume that would imply an internal y connection.
Edited by djPerfectTrip - 6/10/12 at 9:51am
post #1658 of 2387
mz, i was under the same mistaken impression as you that xt32 included sub-eq as part of it... with good reason, as every previous implementation of xt32 included sub-eq....

but it doesn't, it's actually a separate thingie, which onkyo chose not to implement... why, i don't know... xt32 without sub-eq is half a loaf... of course, they also downgraded every lower model to 2eq... so something tells me it"0's the almighty dollar at work...

of course, if you go read the 818 thread, you'll find that sub-eq "isn't important"... tongue.gif

in either case, xt32 isn't showing up as a firmware upgrade on the 7005...
post #1659 of 2387
How do you get the sr7005 to remember what sound output to be on for what sound incoming? Is pissing me off I have to manually change it all the damn time. I watch tv, live tv. I change it to Dolby pro logic 2 movie. Then I watch a recorded movie on it. It's Dolby digital. Go back to prev which puts me back to live tv. Now it's in stereo and I have to manually change it again to Dolby pro logic 2 movie. Last night I tested it 3 or 4 times and it went to stereo each time. Then it went to Dolby pro logic 2 movie for a few times.

Is this just the way it is cus if so its broken and I wouldnt want to keep this pos.
post #1660 of 2387
^Thanks guys.

I stand corrected.

"You can connect the powered subwoofer with two
SUBWOOFER PRE OUT jacks respectively.

The same signal is output from each jack." -818 manual

XT32 "lite" tongue.gif
Edited by m. zillch - 6/10/12 at 10:42am
post #1661 of 2387

Does anyone find the Front and Left Height speakers benificial with Dolby Pro Logic IIz and Audyssey DSX?

 

Also, is anyone using this set-up?

 

Thanks!

post #1662 of 2387
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

^Thanks guys.

I stand corrected.

"You can connect the powered subwoofer with two
SUBWOOFER PRE OUT jacks respectively.

The same signal is output from each jack." -818 manual

XT32 "lite" tongue.gif

yea, it had to be proved to me too mz... don't feel bad... as noted, every xt32 implementation previously included sub-eq, so i assumed it was part of the xt32 suite...

teach me to assume... redface.gif

there are going to be some surprised buyers... smile.gif typical onkyo shenanigans....
post #1663 of 2387
I think their decision to eliminate the sub-eq was not very onkyo. ["onkyo" is the Japanese word for "sound"] wink.gif
post #1664 of 2387
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Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

No, sorry, this has been discussed earlier in the thread a few times. Even though the chip inside may in theory be able to accommodate it, the electronics of the AV7005 do not have two discrete signal paths for the two subwoofer outs. {It is internally simply a Y-cord}. XT32 needs dedicated subwoofer electronics so it can vary the phase ("distance") and level of the two.

I am guilty of wishful thinking; thanks for steering me back into the reality of the situation.
post #1665 of 2387

Ok, let me re-phrase that......is the Front and Left Height speakers beneficial with the Marantz 7005 when watching movies?confused.gif

 

Any comments?

 

Thanks!


Edited by woodsart - 6/11/12 at 11:17am
post #1666 of 2387
Quote:
Originally Posted by m. zillch View Post

I think their decision to eliminate the sub-eq was not very onkyo. ["onkyo" is the Japanese word for "sound"] wink.gif

smile.gif

i learned my new thing for today.... smile.gif
post #1667 of 2387
*groan* a multi-lingual pun.
post #1668 of 2387
Denon also get their name from the Japanese word "onkyo", BTW. It is a contraction of two words though. The words "denki + onkyo" meaning "electric + sound".
post #1669 of 2387
^^^

now i have learned my thing for tomorrow, which means i can now be a sloth and not even bother to get out of bed.... tongue.gif

mz, you are a fount of unusual information.... smile.gif
post #1670 of 2387
This sort of thing always makes me go googling.

How 16 Electronics Companies Got Their Names
post #1671 of 2387
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Originally Posted by ccotenj View Post

^^^
now i have learned my thing for tomorrow, which means i can now be a sloth and not even bother to get out of bed.... tongue.gif
mz, you are a fount of unusual information.... smile.gif

Yes, I know a lot of trivia. I guess that's why I often overhear my friends referring to me as "trivial". wink.gif
post #1672 of 2387
^^^

lol... smile.gif

nah, not all trivia... you have taught me a lot... all that vinyl stuff, and how/why it works, for example...
post #1673 of 2387
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Originally Posted by woodsart View Post

Ok, let me re-phrase that......is the Front and Left Height speakers beneficial with the Marantz 7005 when watching movies?confused.gif

Any comments?

Thanks!

For music not really but for movies or tv broadcast I feel it adds a bit more depth,
especially with atmos or ambience sounds.

I use dipole / bipole speakers for both rear surround and front heighs...
post #1674 of 2387
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This is how I keep myself entertained.

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And this is the muscle that makes it all run. Still loving my SR7005!
post #1675 of 2387

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Thanks Erhurd, I appreciate your reply. For music it is pure audio mode, but sometimes I like a bit more fuller experience, but mostly the 2 channel is fantastic with the Phils.

 

I did, however, get the Paradign Monitors 1.7 for the heights. They are very detailed speakers, still warming up, though. Need to be moved a bit higher, but I have to break in the WAF.

 

Seems to work well and yes you are right.....adds to the soundstage, really like the height speakers, but probably need to run adyssey once more, everything seems to be focused on centerstage.

 

Don't know if you have been reading, but this is my third 7005 and so far so good. The issues I had with the others.....seems I am not having with this unit. The download was good and the AirPlay as well.

 

Your set up is sweet!!!! not to great pic at my house though!eek.gif......

 

Thanks, buddy, didn't know that, still learning the new site!smile.gif


Edited by woodsart - 6/19/12 at 1:28pm
post #1676 of 2387
^
Sounds like your frustration level has decreased; glad to hear that your Marantz experience has changed for the better!
post #1677 of 2387
Woodsart, I just made my first image attachments on AVS today and had to figure out that if I wanted to see my images posted I would need to use the "image" icon just to the left of the paper clip icon to do so. Try reposting your images using that icon to browse and load your JPEG image files; you should obtain the desired effect...

You're very welcome, woodsart! and thanks for the compliment!
Edited by erhurd - 6/19/12 at 2:04pm
post #1678 of 2387

Sure!

 

Have another question.....where are your front height speakers and can you tell me the settings you use for that as far as PLIIz, etc.

 

Or like me.....experimenting...... depending on the movie.

 

Having 9.1 speakers for movies is a plus!!!

post #1679 of 2387
Much more importantly than using front heights or wides, I'd recommend getting the tweeters of the front three speakers (shown in these recent pics) at roughly the same height. [They are the most important speakers in the system and need to integrate well.] Otherwise sound images as they pan across the sound stage laterally will sound as if they are traveling across a curved arc, for a stage, instead of a straight, horizontal plane.
post #1680 of 2387

^^^ You are right sir, however, the space restraints in the cabinet, above and below prevent that unfortunately. The WAF seems to rule here.

 

A better setup someday, but for now I am happy, particularly with 2 channel, which is most important for critical listening.

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