The Official Marantz SR7005 Receiver Page!! - Page 62

It is NOT a great deal when you get this particular open-box home and see how important it is to get off to a good start with the Audyssey setup microphone and the correct remote control. Your "good deal" will sour quickly after you have to go through the hassle to obtain the mic and remote. Just hoping you did not purchase the "open box" you are considering?

Depends on the price . I got my open box for $750. Far below the $1200 or so they are going for. I still get the three year warranty. Having to wait 3 days for a mic and remote was not a big deal.
After the price of the remote and mic it still gives you a great deal. To each his own.
Edited by XStanleyX - 12/21/12 at 2:25pm

I look favorably on open box items and have no qualms about buying them at all as long as the warranty is honored .....after all this stuff is really a luxury item.


is the only way to see what kind of input is coming in is by looking at the display panel? my old Onyko had a display that would pop on the projection screen that would should show the channel input in and the channel out put. (ie input BD 5.1 output pllz7.1) i can scroll through the different surround modes but i havent found a display feature on the screen that shows the channels coming in . thks bob
Edited by bobs77vet - 1/4/13 at 11:47am

Any one of three mics used by Denon, Marantz and Onkyo units from the past 3 years to include the ACM-1H, ACM-1HB, and DM-A409 can be used, all of which run about $25 and are fairly easy to obtain. The stock remote can easily be replaced by a Harmony remote (and highly recommended). So these are not issues at all.

I stand corrected; thanks for the info, jdsmoothie...

need some help making friends with the sr7005, i really like it though. when i watch movies like the Mummy returns that are 5.1 sound track how do i get the 7.1 rear speakers? i have no problem getting A-DSX, pure direct, multi ch in + pllz or multi ch in stereo. i can see on the display when the surround back are activated. why cant i get multi ch in + pllx? and what is multi ch in stereo with the surround back speaker icons displaying? is that similar to pllx?


i am using HDMI inputs from a pioneer bdp 140

and i also actually prefer my harmony remote to the marantz remote..

thks bob

When you ran AUTO SETUP (Audyssey) did all the speakers to include your rear surrounds get pinged? If yes, then the DD PLIIx setting should be available by pressing the "Surr" button on the remote (p. 46 OM). "Mult CH IN" indicates the unit is receiving a PCM (ie. decoded DD/DTS) signal from the source device while "Mult CH Stereo" indicates the same stereo signal is passed to each speaker pair ... FL/FR, SL/SR, and SBL/SBR.

thks Jd all the speakers were pinged and i can get the rear back surround to work in many instances for example all channel stereo and with any 2 channel source i can get the back speakers to work on pllx. however with any 5.1 input i can only get the pllz to work (a-dsx works fine). the display icons will tell me if its front highs or rear surround getting the signal. its almost like as soon as the 2 channel bluray previews (which are pllx) end and the 5.1 sound track starts the sr7005 changes it automatically to pllz. with the 2 channel sourced material i can make it pllx or pllz. 5.1 its only pllz? i am going to go see what the marvel 7.1 sound track does. thks bob


edit 1: ok just popped in bourne legacy.....the only way i can get the 7.1 to the back surround speakers is in the direct or pure direct modes? every thing else takes me to the front highs.

edit 2: well still pushing buttons.....seems like if the A-DSX button is cycled to the off setting i can get the 7.1 to the rear speakers. its almost like that if the A-DSX is pushed to heights it controls what options are available and it is defaulting everything to the front heights. does the height setting default everything to the frt highs?


edit 3 sunday am.....everything works right on 5.1 with A-DSX set to off, the A_DSX must enable certain parameters that controls whats surround modes are available

any thoughts?
thks bob
Edited by bobs77vet - 1/6/13 at 5:18am

Does anyone who has this receiver also have experience with the Sony DA-777ES? I am trying to replace an old Sony DA-777ES with the Marantz SR7005 to get modern connection and processing ability. It weighs less than half of the Sony and after all is said and done, while the SR7005 sounds excellent, it feels like the DA-777ES is much more powerful.

I set up the Audessey and tried listening with Audessey, without it, changing input gain and upping the output gain and it seems that everything needs to be cranked high to perform anything close to the DA-777ES.

Also I bought this on clearance from Best Buy and some of my friends say that Best Buy might be getting inferior products with the same model number. Not sure if serious...

So anyway I basically inherited this DA777ES and while I don't know much about it, it seems very highly regarded back in its day. Am I trying to get blood from a stone by trying to get the same performance out of the SR7005?

I've noticed with my 7005 the same thing as well, with Audysey running it does need to be cranked way up to get volume levels I like. I'm running it with Klipsch 6.2RFs and corresponding center/surrounds.

Don't forget that the volume controls of most modern receivers are logarithmic, not linear. After running an Audyssey calibration and verified that Audyssey equalization is enabled, a typical Relative Volume level for movies would be about -25db and about -35db for most CDs. If you have Dynamic Volume enabled, the levels might be somewhat different. Some people prefer higher levels to improve dialog, often due to problems in how the center channel speaker has been positioned.

I may not have something set up incorrectly if that is the case. I need to have the receiver cfanked to about-10 to -5 to really get a loud movie theater experience. Like I said, I'm running Klipsch RF6s sitting about 13' from the listening position. A little disappointed in the volume level, with audyssey engaged.

Turn off Dynamic Volume if it is enabled. You'll get more volume with it off.

What are the channel level settings that Audyssey is using for your speaker channels?
(See page 11 in the manual)

If any of them (including the subwoofer) are at -12dB or +12dB, then Audyssey was unable to calibrate them properly. A setting of -12dB, for example, indicates that Audyssey's calibration software turned the receiver's output down as far as it could but it was still too loud. Typical values for the subwoofer channel would be about +/- 3dB. -12dB incicates that the volume control on the subwoofer itself needs to be turned down substantially.

sounds like something isnt right.....-10 to -5 with my klipsch icons and the quintets would be too painful to stay in the room. usually i am in the -32 to -28 range. with pure direct on or with audyssey dsx on the volume levels are a bit higher.


as for inferior products with the same model number I dont think so.

If you haven't already, you might try following the recommendations in the Audyssey thread. The simplified instructions included in most equipment manuals often are inadequate for audio enthusiasts.

See http://www.avsforum.com/t/795421/official-audyssey-thread-faq-in-post-1

So I carefully reran Audyssey setup, using a microphone stand to take eight readings with the first painstakingly set centered at the TV and at our normal viewing distance. Then two to each side and three behind.

Oh and one other thing, if I use any of the direct modes the subwoofer all but disappears, presumably because I have shelf speakers. Is this normal behavior?

The outcome was worse than before, really tinny sounding with no body to the sound at all.

I went into manual set up and reset the speaker distances using a measuring tape (Audyssey set the sub about 10 ft too far away) and reset the crossover frequencies based upon my prior knowledge of the speakers' behavior and where I have the sub's crossover knob set.

I left the levels as Audyssey had them because I don't have an SPL Meter. I checked them with a phone app just for fun and it reads a little heavy on the left side of the room and quite low on the sub. Being too low on the sub is probably what I am picking up as not being loud enough. But after fixing the distance and the LFE crossover by ear it sounds "OK".

For the interested, the levels are all between -1.5 and 6.5.

I set all of the input source levels to 0dB and I am playing CDs through the PS3. At -25dB (56%) it is approximately loud enough to be concerned about disturbing the neighbors (I live in a subdivision) but I guess I would best describe it as "comfortably loud."

It is possible that the rest of the behavior can be explained by the volume control, does this sound consistent with your experiences?

Also anyone who has ever heard the DA777ES, I would love confirmation that you have never turned the volume above 50%, that would confirm that the volume controls simply behave differently.

Sorry, but no. Although a wifi dongle will not work with either Denon or Marantz AVRs, you can use another wifi router in "bridge" mode to connect to the home's main wifi router.

1. There shouldn't be anything "painstaking" about the mic positioning process especially when using a mic stand. You simply set the mic at seated ear height and then move it roughly in a 2-3' radius around the #1 mic position making sure no position is within 2' from the back wall if the couch is against the back wall. Suggest you take some time to review the Audyssey 101/FAQ Guide linked in my sig as virtually every question you might have about Audyssey is answered in that guide.

2. Yes. Normal. DIRECT and PURE DIRECT modes disengage bass management so with the FL/FR speakers set to SMALL, only the LFE signal (0.1) is sent to the sub.

3. No confirmation required ... simply accept the fact that older receivers used a different volume scale which generally only required going to roughly 20-30% of maximum for really loud volume. Also note that with Dyn EQ engaged, reference level volume is set to 0db so at the same master volume with it disengaged will likely sound louder as well. Bottom line, don't worry about how the master volume level compares to your older Sony receiver.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 1/8/13 at 11:11pm

The direct modes are a marketing feature they feel obligated to throw in, however in truth, they should never be used, unless you purchase an outboard microphone calibration system which trumps Audyssey XT.

Audyssey's selection of x-over frequency is based on actual in-room measurements, which trump your "prior knowledge" even if it's based on test reports done by a multi-million dollar speaker testing facility. Your room and exact speaker placement is what's being corrected, not so much the speaker itself. Speakers which claim to go down to , say, 30 Hz may not in many rooms. Trust Audyssey instead of bypassing its computer controlled decisions.

The sub distance discrepancy may be due to a slight latency in the sub's output due to it's electronic circuitry (or other reasons). Use the subs direct mode and don't override what the receiver measures the EFFECTIVE distance as being, which takes any electrical delay/room conditions into account which you can't measure.

Use the sub's "direct" or "bypass x-over" mode and let the receiver have complete control. If you have one of the very rare subs without a direct mode, peg the sub's frequency to the highest setting and the receiver will select a setting below that.

Also be sure the receiver considers the speakers as "small", regardless of whatever you think they are. "Small" really means "allow the sub to work properly (bass management)" but was a stupid wording when they designed these things a long time ago.
Edited by m. zillch - 1/8/13 at 11:11pm

No. Not serious at all. Marantz is a much more respected brand name than is Sony.
Edited by jdsmoothie - 1/8/13 at 11:11pm

What you experienced is to be expected .... with A-DSX set to ON-Height or ON-Wide, then the audio would be simulated to those channels in a 7.1 setup.

I have searched this thread to no avail, and hope I have a simple question.
i had a long run from my AV rack to my TV for several years and therefore used a component video run.
I just switched to HDMI throughout the rack, and noted that the Marantz input automatically changes to TV
after I select DirecTV or DVD upon start up. This never happened before.
I then physically have to change inputs back to what I want to watch.
The TV input is the GUI.
This is annoying and until my Crestron mobile comes next week, I need a fix please.
Thank you in advance,
DMC

^^

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1334369/the-official-denon-avr-xx12-model-owners-thread/0_100#user_E5

Pure awesomeness, thank you.

Hey guys, quick question. Just got an SR7005 from Amazon. Is this receiver supposed to be made in Japan? The one I got is made in China.

Mine is made in Japan but apparently not all of them are. Could be they moved production to China before the end of the model run. Doubt there is any difference so I'd rest easy.

 

I could be wrong but as far as I know the 7007's are made in China.

Edited by XStanleyX - 1/13/13 at 5:00pm

Thanks all for your replies. I have spoken to Marantz and have done some further experimenting and I think I am keeping the SR7005. For the sake of anyone who may be searching this thread here are some of my findings which helped me with my conclusions:

- If your old amp is tuned "by ear", tuning the new one by Audyssey may not lead to a fair comparison. Tune the new one by ear if you think there is something wrong with it. Then you also know where your personal sound bias is.

- The DA777ES is a pretty special piece. For one, the preamp outputs are 2V whereas the SR7005 is 1.2V. Since in my system the sub is the only RCA level signal, the result is the sub performs at 60% of the previous volume, all else the same. So you would need to increase the volume of the sub through either the amp or the sub volume control.

- I finally understand the linear vs logarithmic volume scales and that was a factor here too. If I understand it right, it requires roughly twice the power to increase SPL by 3dB. So you can show the volume linearly (Sony) which means that the entire second half of the volume range of motion is the last 3dB increase. Or you can show the dB linearly (Marantz) which means the microprocessor is doing the math and increasing the volume (exponentially) for you in the background.

So you were all correct, I didn't exactly "get it" at first. And the Sony is more powerful, I would say 20% or so by rough guess, but the new features in the Marantz definitely sway me toward the new piece over the old.
Edited by crayzeemf - 1/13/13 at 6:12pm

Thanks. Looking at the pics online say it's made in Japan. Just want to make sure it was genuine.