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post #241 of 2387
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Originally Posted by unclemat View Post

I did not adjust crossovers, except changing front speakers to "small" ("large" effectively means no crossover from the fronts). That cleans up the bass, since there is no overlap between the fronts and the sub.

Marantz sounds very nice, but the bass is overdone (with Audyssey+DynEq) and it sounds more "edgy", i.e. brighter. Denon has this smoother, more mid-tone centered sound, that feels overall more natural. Especially apparent with jazz and classics. I really do think now Denon is not only better features wise but also sound wise.

I liked Marantz look better, although the main display being hidden behind the door is somewhat pain, plus the design compromises the IR reception. Marantz's remote is much nicer than Denon's (which is garbage), but then it's mostly moot since I will be using Harmony remote anyway.

To me big advantages of the 4311ci are: 9 amps and DCD decoding. Not sure if native DCD decoding made a difference, but SACDs listened thru Denon sound markedly better than on Marantz. The difference with some PCM sources was less.

I am auditioning them deciding to which one to keep. I initially got Marantz SR5005 but then realized it does not overlay UI (user manual seems to suggest it does), then read about the Denon, and given the feature set, decided to get it. But then thought, hmmm, Marantz was perhaps sound better, so got SR7005 to compare and decide which one to keep.

I think it would be very difficult to be unhappy with either one. Both are incredible audio producing pieces of equipment.

Gotcha. I agree the 9 amps are nice, but that's not something I can really use in my setup so not a consideration for me. I'm familiar with SACD but not DCD...but I don't actually have any SACD's to comment.

Bass did seem a bit boomy to me at first too, but after playing with speaker placement, adjusting the LFE knobs on the subs (built into my mains), and recalibrating leaving crossovers at what Audyssey wanted, I'm quite happy. Like I said, I did decide to turn the EQ off, and I do think it sounds best like that for most listening (possibly a few exceptions), but I think I'd eventually reach that conclusion regardless of receiver (at least everything I've experienced so far - I just don't tend to like EQ's).

Wish I could hear the Denon in my setup to compare, but it's not really practical, and I'm happy with this so sticking with it.

At any rate, appreciate the input and let us know if you audition more and your thoughts/final decision. I agree whichever you end up with, you'll have a killer receiver. =)
post #242 of 2387
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Originally Posted by unclemat View Post

To me big advantages of the 4311ci are: 9 amps and DCD decoding. Not sure if native DCD decoding made a difference, but SACDs listened thru Denon sound markedly better than on Marantz. The difference with some PCM sources was less.

DSD, not DCD. SACD uses Direct Stream Digital 1 bit PDM.

AJ
post #243 of 2387
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Originally Posted by WiWavelength View Post

DSD, not DCD. SACD uses Direct Stream Digital 1 bit PDM.

AJ

Ahhh okay cool - thanks for the clarification!
post #244 of 2387
Of course, sorry typo.
post #245 of 2387
Would there be a "pop of death" concern with the SR7005?
post #246 of 2387
I know we dont mention it that often, but we do sell Audio Equipment. If anyone needs any help, please let me know
post #247 of 2387
sorry for jumping into thread but do any of you recommend the 7005 over the integra 40.2? I am just about to buy one or the other and can not find any reviews on either so any help would be great
post #248 of 2387
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Originally Posted by Sickman View Post

Would there be a "pop of death" concern with the SR7005?

I was aware of this issue with previous Marantz models before purchasing the SR7005 and decided to take the risk. I figure any company can have a faulty model line, but I'd be highly surprised (and disappointed) if that issue were to translate to their new models. Though to be fair, I don't think they've been out long enough for anyone to say for sure. But it'd be akin to company suicide if this issue was still present and not fixed (as one would assume it would be in the AV unit also, and these are their two high end models). So I'm betting we're safe - I can't imagine them NOT fixing a known issue this big for a new model.
post #249 of 2387
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Originally Posted by jiggyk4 View Post

sorry for jumping into thread but do any of you recommend the 7005 over the integra 40.2? I am just about to buy one or the other and can not find any reviews on either so any help would be great

Can't help you re the Integra as I've never had any experience, but there is one review on the SR7005 for TechRadar that I know of, though it's pretty slim as far as reviews also:

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/aud...-715712/review

It's fairly glowing and actually was a factor in my purchase, but I haven't seen many other reviews out there for whatever reason.
post #250 of 2387
so has anyone received one yet? my dealer said it would be a month before he can get me one. It looks awesome and I just hope it sounds diff than my denon 3808.
post #251 of 2387
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Originally Posted by jiggyk4 View Post

so has anyone received one yet? my dealer said it would be a month before he can get me one. It looks awesome and I just hope it sounds diff than my denon 3808.

I previously owned a Denon 3808. You will not be disappointed with Marantz

I only had the Denon for about a month because I found the sound way to bright for my liking.
post #252 of 2387
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Originally Posted by jiggyk4 View Post

so has anyone received one yet? my dealer said it would be a month before he can get me one. It looks awesome and I just hope it sounds diff than my denon 3808.

I ordered mine from a BB (I had a 12% off coupon) and they gave me the default three week time frame and "oh it should definitely be sooner than that, though." They told me they'd call the regional Magnolia and call me to let me know what they said. Four days later, I called THEM and of course no one knew what I was talking about. I guess I'll have to get a copy of BB's employee schedule so that I can go back in there when the exact same 3 people I talked to are working again and maybe I can get some information on what is going on. With the amount of money I spend there, they should be calling me with daily, if not hourly, updates.
post #253 of 2387
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Originally Posted by MXM View Post

I previously owned a Denon 3808. You will not be disappointed with Marantz

I only had the Denon for about a month because I found the sound way to bright for my liking.

Well, as I posted elsewhere SR7005 sounds "brighter" than 4311ci. I chose to keep 4311ci.
post #254 of 2387
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Originally Posted by unclemat View Post

I did not adjust crossovers, except changing front speakers to "small" ("large" effectively means no crossover from the fronts). That cleans up the bass, since there is no overlap between the fronts and the sub.

Marantz sounds very nice, but the bass is overdone (with Audyssey+DynEq) and it sounds more "edgy", i.e. brighter. Denon has this smoother, more mid-tone centered sound, that feels overall more natural. Especially apparent with jazz and classics. I really do think now Denon is not only better features wise but also sound wise.

I liked Marantz look better, although the main display being hidden behind the door is somewhat pain, plus the design compromises the IR reception. Marantz's remote is much nicer than Denon's (which is garbage), but then it's mostly moot since I will be using Harmony remote anyway.

To me big advantages of the 4311ci are: 9 amps and DCD decoding. Not sure if native DCD decoding made a difference, but SACDs listened thru Denon sound markedly better than on Marantz. The difference with some PCM sources was less.

I am auditioning them deciding to which one to keep. I initially got Marantz SR5005 but then realized it does not overlay UI (user manual seems to suggest it does), then read about the Denon, and given the feature set, decided to get it. But then thought, hmmm, Marantz was perhaps sound better, so got SR7005 to compare and decide which one to keep.

I think it would be very difficult to be unhappy with either one. Both are incredible audio producing pieces of equipment.

Whats this about the SR7005 and inferior SACD playback with lack of DSD? Any validity to this? I have alot of SACD and DVD-Audio discs and really enjoy the multichanel Hi-Res playback. Would be hugely dissapointed if i could not get the full enjoyment of my hi-res discs, in fact it would be a dealbreaker for me. Please advise
post #255 of 2387
In my system, the SR7005 isn't bright at all. I'd say it tilts towards a warm side which I prefer. That's comparing to the UMC-1 and an older Myryad processor.
It won't replace my tube preamplifier for 2 channel but it comes surprisingly close.
post #256 of 2387
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Originally Posted by alour View Post

Whats this about the SR7005 and inferior SACD playback with lack of DSD? Any validity to this? I have alot of SACD and DVD-Audio discs and really enjoy the multichanel Hi-Res playback. Would be hugely dissapointed if i could not get the full enjoyment of my hi-res discs, in fact it would be a dealbreaker for me. Please advise

I don't see SACD/DSD support mentioned in the manual - you may want to check with Marantz to see if this is supported. DVD-Audio is mentioned, albeit only in reference to what modes can be selected when a certain type of audio is played, so I'm guessing DVD-Audio is supported. I don't have either type of disc to try unfortunately.
post #257 of 2387
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Originally Posted by jamnperry View Post

In my system, the SR7005 isn't bright at all. I'd say it tilts towards a warm side which I prefer. That's comparing to the UMC-1 and an older Myryad processor.
It won't replace my tube preamplifier for 2 channel but it comes surprisingly close.

I would use warm to describe my sound as well and definitely not bright - I find the SR7005 much less bright than the Pioneer I auditioned. I've never sampled a Denon to compare.
post #258 of 2387
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Originally Posted by unclemat View Post

Well, as I posted elsewhere SR7005 sounds "brighter" than 4311ci. I chose to keep 4311ci.

jiggyk4 was comparing the Denon 3808 not the 4311c.

It also depends on what speaker setup you have, I have the KEF iQ70,iQ60 and iQ10 and these sound great with my 7005.

At the end of the day it's down to personal choice
post #259 of 2387
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Originally Posted by MXM View Post

jiggyk4 was comparing the Denon 3808 not the 4311c.

It also depends on what speaker setup you have, I have the KEF iQ70,iQ60 and iQ10 and these sound great with my 7005.

At the end of the day it's down to personal choice

Agreed. This is really subjective. I was so fixated on "Marantz" (based on reputation, looks), it took me sometime to convince myself that Denon actually sounds better.

Btw, I have Polk RTI series speakers (A5, CSI A4, FXI A3, RTI4).
post #260 of 2387
Got my 7005 on Friday and so far I'm very happy with it. It's replacing a Denon 2801 which I had running Marantz MA-500 monoblocks for my front speakers. The only bad news was that the Audssey setup revealed that I have a dead tweeter on one of my speakers (Paradigm Studio/40 v.2). I'm embarrassed not to have noticed it before.

Anyway, when the unit arrived the firmware was apparently up to date. I'm using a cheap ASUS router as an ethernet bridge to my wireless and that's working great too.
post #261 of 2387
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Originally Posted by MTrip View Post

Got my 7005 on Friday and so far I'm very happy with it. It's replacing a Denon 2801 which I had running Marantz MA-500 monoblocks for my front speakers. The only bad news was that the Audssey setup revealed that I have a dead tweeter on one of my speakers (Paradigm Studio/40 v.2). I'm embarrassed not to have noticed it before.

Anyway, when the unit arrived the firmware was apparently up to date. I'm using a cheap ASUS router as an ethernet bridge to my wireless and that's working great too.

I'm sure you will enjoy your 7005
Try the Marantz app it's great, It also shows what's playing and album art on the iphone!

I've had pioneer & Denon amps over the years and this far the best amp I've owned.
post #262 of 2387
Anyone know of any professional reviews online or in magazines that have measured the actual maximum wattage with all channels driven simultaneously? I'm looking for detailed technical specs such as this and S/N ratio as measured by instrumentation, not subjective reviews of "Boy it has a lot of punch yet little background noise!", nor Marantz/ D&M Holdings' claims.

-Thanks.
post #263 of 2387
This has been a great thread to read if one is considering the SR7005 which I am.

Now my question for those who have owned the SR7002 and changed for the SR7005...

Which would you say has the better AQ and PQ?
post #264 of 2387
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

This has been a great thread to read if one is considering the SR7005 which I am.

Now my question for those who have owned the SR7002 and changed for the SR7005...

Which would you say has the better AQ and PQ?

I also wouldn't mind hearing about the video processing. I can't imagine the ABT 2015 is a slouch, but some real-world evaluations would be nice.
post #265 of 2387
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Originally Posted by alour View Post

Whats this about the SR7005 and inferior SACD playback with lack of DSD? Any validity to this? I have alot of SACD and DVD-Audio discs and really enjoy the multichanel Hi-Res playback. Would be hugely dissapointed if i could not get the full enjoyment of my hi-res discs, in fact it would be a dealbreaker for me. Please advise

Unless you are talking about DACs that directly support DSD then it would be translated to PCM in any event (and I am no expert but have seen discussion here where it is highly debatable that direct DSD->DAC is any better than DSD->PCM->DAC) - whether that happens in the player or the AVR is of no consequence (same algorithm). So just have you SACD player send PCM and you can get full enjoyment from your multi-channel hi-res discs.
post #266 of 2387
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Originally Posted by rick240 View Post

Unless you are talking about DACs that directly support DSD then it would be translated to PCM in any event (and I am no expert but have seen discussion here where it is highly debatable that direct DSD->DAC is any better than DSD->PCM->DAC) - whether that happens in the player or the AVR is of no consequence (same algorithm). So just have you SACD player send PCM and you can get full enjoyment from your multi-channel hi-res discs.

Ok but can i get full enjoyment thru HDMI or do I need a 6ch Analog input to get that enjoyment? There must be some downside bot having DSD no?
post #267 of 2387
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Originally Posted by alour View Post

Ok but can i get full enjoyment thru HDMI or do I need a 6ch Analog input to get that enjoyment? There must be some downside bot having DSD no?

Not that I'm aware of.

My player decodes SACD to PCM and send hi-res multi-channel PCM over HDMI to my AVR and I don't feel I'm missing anything (could be I don't know better, but I don't think so). You may well find discussions of this topic, or may want to start one, in the Multi-Channel Music subforum.
post #268 of 2387
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Originally Posted by JimShaw View Post

This has been a great thread to read if one is considering the SR7005 which I am.

Now my question for those who have owned the SR7002 and changed for the SR7005...

Which would you say has the better AQ and PQ?

Im very interested in hearing that too!
Im a swedish user who currently owns the SR7002 but is considering an upgrade to the SR7005 (mainly because of more HDMI-ports, better version of Audyssey and the ability to EQ on highdef bitstreamed sound), so a comparison between these two units would be very appreciated!
post #269 of 2387
After like 2 weeks Marantz finally responded to my inquiry about the DAC used in SR7005:

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Response (Michael ******) - 10/26/2010 10:07 AM

The SR7005 uses an AKM 4358 DAC: http://www.akm.com/prodfolder-dac.asp?p=AK4358
post #270 of 2387
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Originally Posted by eddie_p View Post

Im very interested in hearing that too!
Im a swedish user who currently owns the SR7002 but is considering an upgrade to the SR7005 (mainly because of more HDMI-ports, better version of Audyssey and the ability to EQ on highdef bitstreamed sound), so a comparison between these two units would be very appreciated!


eddie_p

I talked to a tech at Marantz yesterday and asked him if I were to change out my 7002 for the 7005 would I notice any difference in the PQ and AQ between them. He said, "No not really"
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