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post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 
What I want to know is, if a dedicated soundcard is needed if you already have a receiver?

The receiver is a Sony STR-DE685 (more than a few years old)

Speakers-- 2x Infinity Primus 150's bookshelf (yep, just stereo at the moment)

MB- Intel DP55WG
http://www.intel.com/products/deskto...G-overview.htm

Mostly playing games and listening to mp3's.
post #2 of 25
With those speakers, I see no reason to go and get a fancy analog SC with a better D/A stage. Just connect with optical and you will be fine.
post #3 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks you kindly.

If anyone has anything else to add.........?
post #4 of 25
My opinion:

If you don't send audio over analog outputs but over SPDIF, onboard chip is adequate.
post #5 of 25
As stated above, if you send audio digitally over HDMI or S/PDIF, a better soundcard will not provide better quality. Only on analog connections a better soundcard will provide better sound due to the improved DAC`s.
post #6 of 25
with primus as your mains, just send spdif over optical/coax to your receiver.
If you are sending audio digitally, the sound card makes absolutely no difference, so you my as well just use onboard.
post #7 of 25
We (or just me?) are assuming here you are sending uncompressed SD or HD bitstream to your AVR over S/PDIF or HDMI 1.3 to be decoded in your AVR.
If you are sending already decoded 2.1 PCM (over SPDIF) or 5.1/7.1 PCM over HDMI, it is another thing btw.
post #8 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

We (or just me?) are assuming here you are sending uncompressed SD or HD bitstream to your AVR over S/PDIF or HDMI 1.3 to be decoded in your AVR.
If you are sending already decoded 2.1 PCM (over SPDIF) or 5.1/7.1 PCM over HDMI, it is another thing btw.


Right now it's just a Y adapter with composite cables to the receiver via the MB output. http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...odsInSession=1


I will be switching to Optical soon for around $5.00 from MonoPrice.
Unless someone tells me there will be no difference between the two.
post #9 of 25
Optical will be better.
post #10 of 25
Why not you pay 5 bucs and just compare yourself?
post #11 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

Why not you pay 5 bucs and just compare yourself?


Because I just switched to a receiver, that's why. I just wanted to know beforehand, is that wrong?

One more question.
Is there any difference with my application by going with the reg, or premium optical cables from MonoPrice?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10229
post #12 of 25
Was that the question?

Quote:
Originally Posted by CorCentral View Post

What I want to know is, if a dedicated soundcard is needed if you already have a receiver?

If you have an AVR leave the job to dedicated AVR
Don't forget to update the firmware btw.
post #13 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorCentral View Post

One more question.
Is there any difference with my application by going with the reg, or premium optical cables from MonoPrice?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10229

I always used more expensive cables. Dunno maybe it's commercial? I don't care.
post #14 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

Was that the question?



If you have an AVR leave the job to dedicated AVR
Don't forget to update the firmware btw.


Sure, and I'll upgrade the firmware on my mousepad while I'm at it
post #15 of 25
Thumbs down; why?
Sorry?
post #16 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

Thumbs down; why?
Sorry?

Seems like you're insulting an intelligence you don't know.
When you ask a fairly simple question, you get an answer that relates to the question asked. Which I did before you even posted.

You came in telling me to update firmware! That's a laugh.
post #17 of 25
I wasn't joking my friend.
You were asking some qustions and i tried to answer them.
I never insist on they are absolutely true.
This is a forum right?
If you don't like my responses just simply ignore them.
Take care.
Regards.
post #18 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorCentral View Post

Seems like you're insulting an intelligence you don't know.
When you ask a fairly simple question, you get an answer that relates to the question asked. Which I did before you even posted.

You came in telling me to update firmware! That's a laugh.

Receiver's these days do get firmware updates.
post #19 of 25
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jrwalte View Post

Receiver's these days do get firmware updates.

I know this, but most are not needed, especially for the questions I asked about cables.
post #20 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by CorCentral View Post

I know this, but most are not needed, especially for the questions I asked about cables.

The regular ones will work just fine. I usually buy whatever is cheapest when it comes to digital. SQ wise it should be the same, however more expensive or better made ones may last longer or be more robust.
post #21 of 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by gunbunnysoulja View Post

The regular ones will work just fine. I usually but whatever is cheapest when it comes to digital. SQ wise it should be the same, however more expensive or better made ones may last longer or be more robust.

Yeah. When working with digital, it either works, or it has issues (pops, crackles, etc). There is not any degradation of quality due to different quality cables.
post #22 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys.
Done here.
post #23 of 25
The last word btw:

I wonder what are not needed?


Quote:
Originally Posted by CorCentral View Post

I know this, but most are not needed, especially for the questions I asked about cables.




As far as i remember your main question was:,

Quote:
Originally Posted by CorCentral View Post

What I want to know is, if a dedicated soundcard is needed if you already have a receiver?

And the answers were:

1)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

My opinion:

If you don't send audio over analog outputs but over SPDIF, onboard chip is adequate.

2)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

We (or just me?) are assuming here you are sending uncompressed SD or HD bitstream to your AVR over S/PDIF or HDMI 1.3 to be decoded in your AVR.
If you are sending already decoded 2.1 PCM (over SPDIF) or 5.1/7.1 PCM over HDMI, it is another thing btw.


3)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

If you have an AVR leave the job to dedicated AVR
Don't forget to update the firmware btw.



And your secondary question was:

Quote:
Originally Posted by CorCentral View Post

One more question.
Is there any difference with my application by going with the reg, or premium optical cables from MonoPrice?

http://www.monoprice.com/products/su...02&cp_id=10229


And the answer was:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ricabullah View Post

I always used more expensive cables. Dunno maybe it's commercial? I don't care.


Am i missing something????


That was the last thing what i deserved i suppose.
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post #24 of 25
Umm....lemme understand this. We have a guy asking about a couple of years old receiver to a PC, and he has only TWO speakers that he's driving with it.

His question was...is a sound card needed, if he's using a receiver.....

He's playing games and a few MP3s.....

So.....

How did we get on to decoding HD audio, 5.1 7.1 and what not?? A couple of years old receiver and HDMI??

OP: The short answer to your question, is that, nope, to use a receiver, you most certainly do not need a sound card. A longer answer is the debate between analog out vs digital out, out of the PC. If your PC has SPDIF and/or Digital Coax out, it will certainly sound better than analog out of the PC, since onboard analog sound is fairly crappy. But digital is digital. An SPDIF port is an SPDIF port...whether on a motherboard or a sound card.
post #25 of 25
Needless bickering....thread closed.
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