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Are there any advantages of the original VT25 over the new GT25 Panasonic 3D TVs?

post #1 of 12
8/19/10 at 10:29am
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Apparenly both are in the Viera line. Is the black level technoloogy identitcal (i.e. the patented "Kuro" technology that Panasonic acquired from Pioneer?) In other words is the GT series a step down from the VT series in the same way that the 7000 Samsungs have less or inferior features than the 8000 Samsungs? OK, I am aware that the GT series only goes up to 50 inches and has the added feature of 2D to 3D. I am focusing more on PQ. Would a purist still prefer the VT25? Is the latest the greatest or is Pasnasonic just trying to offer a cheaper alternative to compete at the lower end of the market?
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post #2 of 12
8/19/10 at 10:58am
I thought that the Samsung C7000 LCDs actually have better PQ then the C8000 LCDs whose big selling point is that is thinner for those who mount it on a wall and think the thinner it is the Sexier it is.
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post #3 of 12
8/19/10 at 11:33am
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Originally Posted by NorthTV View Post

Apparenly both are in the Viera line. Is the black level technoloogy identitcal (i.e. the patented "Kuro" technology that Panasonic acquired from Pioneer?) In other words is the GT series a step down from the VT series in the same way that the 7000 Samsungs have less or inferior features than the 8000 Samsungs? OK, I am aware that the GT series only goes up to 50 inches and has the added feature of 2D to 3D. I am focusing more on PQ. Would a purist still prefer the VT25? Is the latest the greatest or is Pasnasonic just trying to offer a cheaper alternative to compete at the lower end of the market?

Bingo!

The GT series does not include any glasses

Still unknown if they are using the new fast decay Red and Green phosphors for the GT panels.
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post #4 of 12
8/21/10 at 12:57pm
Honestly, right now, I just don't think anybody is saving enough money to go with a GT25 instead of a VT25. If you go to the plasma forum, and read a specific thread regarding these two, you understand that there are actually a few more differences than just the lack of a pair of glasses, etc.

The big advantage with the GT25 line, is the 2D to 3D conversion, if that's something that you're into, and EVENTUALLY, a pretty big gap in pricing once the street pricing for the GT25's are known. Right now, looking at the MSRP of the GT25's, compared to the MSRP of the VT25's isn't really apples to apples, because nobody is selling the VT25 for full MSRP anymore, while initially the prices of the GT25 will be MUCH closer to MSRP in the beginning. After stores have had the GT25 in stock for awhile, I think you'll then see the street price come down, and there will be a much bigger difference between the two.

Remember, those glasses cost $150, so it's nothing to sneeze about. Also, I'm not sure if that promotion is still going on or not, but you also get Ice Age and Coraline 3D Blu Rays, and if you put those up on Ebay, you can easily clear $75 each for both of them, meaning another $150.

Considering this, the first $300 you save in the price difference is basically totally negated if you think about the fact that you don't get that free pair of glasses nor the two free 3D Blu Ray's that go for a crazy markup on Ebay.
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post #5 of 12
8/21/10 at 1:20pm
I also think that the vt25 has the infinite black panel for better blacks whereas the gt25 does not.
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post #6 of 12
8/21/10 at 1:51pm
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Originally Posted by Anthony1 View Post

Honestly, right now, I just don't think anybody is saving enough money to go with a GT25 instead of a VT25. If you go to the plasma forum, and read a specific thread regarding these two, you understand that there are actually a few more differences than just the lack of a pair of glasses, etc.

The big advantage with the GT25 line, is the 2D to 3D conversion, if that's something that you're into, and EVENTUALLY, a pretty big gap in pricing once the street pricing for the GT25's are known. Right now, looking at the MSRP of the GT25's, compared to the MSRP of the VT25's isn't really apples to apples, because nobody is selling the VT25 for full MSRP anymore, while initially the prices of the GT25 will be MUCH closer to MSRP in the beginning. After stores have had the GT25 in stock for awhile, I think you'll then see the street price come down, and there will be a much bigger difference between the two.

Remember, those glasses cost $150, so it's nothing to sneeze about. Also, I'm not sure if that promotion is still going on or not, but you also get Ice Age and Coraline 3D Blu Rays, and if you put those up on Ebay, you can easily clear $75 each for both of them, meaning another $150.

Considering this, the first $300 you save in the price difference is basically totally negated if you think about the fact that you don't get that free pair of glasses nor the two free 3D Blu Ray's that go for a crazy markup on Ebay.

The VT25 doesn't come in a 42" size like the GT25 does. Nor does the VT25 offer 2D to 3D conversion which to many is an important feature especiaally with very little 3D content available.
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post #7 of 12
8/21/10 at 2:13pm
Lee, is there any hint from Panasonic that you know of that would indicate whether they will offer FW that would enable 2D>3D conversion in the near future for the VT25 series?

and to NorthTV, sorry for straying off the topic of your thread.
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post #8 of 12
8/21/10 at 3:05pm
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Lee, is there any hint from Panasonic that you know of that would indicate whether they will offer FW that would enable 2D>3D conversion in the near future for the VT25 series?

and to NorthTV, sorry for straying off the topic of your thread.

Nothing that I am aware of. Not sure the VT25 series has the necessary electronics to perform 2D to 3D conversion - like processor chips and memory. It's more than just an algorithum
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post #9 of 12
9/9/10 at 4:01pm
BB local rep said the the new GTs dont have the same panels as the VTs and he liked the VT better. I have't seen the Gts stocked locally.

I am interested in the 2d to 3d and like to see it in person. I am torn between the VT25, VT20 with the player included the Sammy with 2-3D or the GT(All 50")

I talked to Cleveland Plasma and they one of the few that have the GT in stock.

I have an older 42" Panny Plasma that has a very good picture and wonder if I should wait.
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post #10 of 12
9/9/10 at 4:50pm
Does it really matter haveing the 2D to 3D conversion ? i hread that its ok not great.
if its just ok why even get a tv with it. thats how i think of it lol.
here in ny they are haveing killer deals on the VT 20 & 25 .
i wanna get on bad but iam sure sure if i should hold out a few months more
when the VT20 is under 1800 dollars
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post #11 of 12
9/9/10 at 4:56pm
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I have an older 42" Panny Plasma that has a very good picture and wonder if I should wait.

Same situation with me. I read somewhere that with a new technology (like HD or 3D), it is best to wait 2 or 3 years to give the manufacturers a chance to resolve any problems that unavoidably arise. I am planning to wait 2 years, unless my TV breaks down or I give in and spontaneously decide that I want the 3d TV now (which may very well happen, hopefully not until next year, at least).
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post #12 of 12
9/9/10 at 5:10pm
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Originally Posted by Maurice2 View Post

Same situation with me. I read somewhere that with a new technology (like HD or 3D), it is best to wait 2 or 3 years to give the manufacturers a chance to resolve any problems that unavoidably arise. I am planning to wait 2 years, unless my TV breaks down or I give in and spontaneously decide that I want the 3d TV now (which may very well happen, hopefully not until next year, at least).

I upgraded from a 36" CRT panasonic Gaoo that I owned for about 14 years to a VT25 50" because I wanted the best available TV and I am very happy I made the switch. Had I originally owned a half decent plasma I would not have made the switch either just for the sake of 3D and some picture improvment. That being said my 36" Gaoo was not my main TV for movie viewing.
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