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post #211 of 480
@Zoro. I ended up buying my NX810 from SonyStyle because they have the 20% off when you buy 4/5 accessories. But the NX710 that I saw was at Costco. As of now, I haven't seen the NX810 at Costco yet.
post #212 of 480
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Originally Posted by MTech8 View Post

@Zoro. I ended up buying my NX810 from SonyStyle because they have the 20% off when you buy 4/5 accessories. But the NX710 that I saw was at Costco. As of now, I haven't seen the NX810 at Costco yet.

Doesn't Costco only sell Costco specific model numbers? I've always found this frustrating. I understand why they do it (the manufacturer doesn't want their main line sets to appear discounted while they sell they try to sell for full price in most retail outlets), but if you are willing to spend a little more for high end electronics, I'd like to know full and well what I'm buying and how it compares with similar products.
post #213 of 480
I wonder if Sony will now upgrade the NX line with built in Google TV functionality. I think it would be kind of dumb to create a line around "Internet TV" capability rather than PQ, but that appears to be what they are doing, at least initially. Thoughts?

http://discover.sonystyle.com/internettv/

http://www.hometheatermag.com/news/101310googletv/

For TV's w/o Built in Google TV functionality, I guess you need to either buy the Sony Blue Ray player or have yet another box hanging from the back of your TV.
post #214 of 480
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Originally Posted by MTech8 View Post

@Zoro. I ended up buying my NX810 from SonyStyle because they have the 20% off when you buy 4/5 accessories. But the NX710 that I saw was at Costco. As of now, I haven't seen the NX810 at Costco yet.

Thanks mtech! Did u get 60 or 55 inch set? And what accessories and bundle? How much was total shipped including tax etc and what was included in the bundle? Please advise me! You can use pm if preferable?
post #215 of 480
@dnwolner. I believe Costco was selling the 60" NX801 which is the NX800. I did have a hard time locating 60" NX800 as I was only able to find 55" NX800. I believe the specs were very similar if not the same. Most of the time, it's just model differentiation. But they could be less featured products too. Just have to do the homework when buying from places like Costco.

@Zoro. I got the 60". I think they only took off 19% or so on my order. But here is the breakdown:

KDL60NX810 - $3384
3 Year Extended Warranty- $229.99 (this is just insurance. Doubt anything will be wrong with the TV. If there is, figured it should manifest in the first 3 years).
3D Glasses- $119.99
3D Sync Transmitter- $39.99
40" 3D Soundbar - $279.99 (expecting the sound to be weak on the TV unit itself. Don't want to deal with 5.1 setup)

I was debating about getting the 3D starter kit. But I could get the glasses for a lot less on Amazon.com, plus didn't really want Alice in Wonderland 3D.
post #216 of 480
Just picked up the nx810, what a sweet television! I have to say, right out of the box, the video is very impressive. I'm sure a few tweaks will make it even better. TweakTV has some recommended settings based on professional calibrations, just wondering if you guys think these are optimal, or have you found some other settings that work better?

User Menu Settings
Picture Modes
◦Picture Mode : Custom
◦Color Temperature : Warm 2
◦Aspect Ratio : Full
Picture Settings
◦Backlight : 7
◦Picture/Contrast : MAX
◦Brightness : 51
◦Color : 49
◦Hue : 61
◦Color Temperature : Warm 2
◦Sharpness : MIN
◦Noise Reduction : Off
◦MPEG NR : Off
◦Motion Flow : Off
◦Cinemotion : Auto
Advanced Settings Menu
◦Black Correction : Off
◦Adv. Contrast Enhancer : Off
◦Gamma : -1
◦Auto Light : Off
◦Clear White : Off
◦Live Color : Off
◦White Balance : Factory Default
post #217 of 480
◦Motion Flow : Off

Over here the 46" is only available as NX710 with 100Hz Pro MotionFlow vs the 55NX810 with 200Hz. But given the above that shouldn't be a problem as the best setting seems to be 'off'?
Could anyone post their experience with MotionFlow? I need to make a quick decision whether the 46" is fine performance wise, the 55" being just a tat too large.
post #218 of 480
This is from a professional calibrator on Motion Flow:

if you turn Motionflow off, you lose about 2/3 of the HD resolution during motion. ALL detail is destroyed.

In addition, the local dimming backlight feature further reduces motion artifacts.

It doesn't appear that ANY of the Motionflow modes are perfect, but the reduction in motion blur is so large that putting up with the occasional artifact is preferable to the highly blurred motion you get with it off.
post #219 of 480
Thanks for the advice. I suppose the NX810 is superior then. Shame and wonder why the 46" version is not available here. Now I'm almost back to waiting for the next gen (Q1 for HX920?) but want the monolith design over anything else.
post #220 of 480
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Originally Posted by Mics49 View Post

Thanks for the advice. I suppose the NX810 is superior then. Shame and wonder why the 46" version is not available here. Now I'm almost back to waiting for the next gen (Q1 for HX920?) but want the monolith design over anything else.

CES 2011 models at the high end more likely in Q2.
post #221 of 480
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

I think the 810 is the flagship, so sony won't let it go at deep discounts just yet.

Sony says the flagship is the LX900, but the best TV they have is the HX909.
post #222 of 480
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Originally Posted by loudog2 View Post

Sony says the flagship is the LX900, but the best TV they have is the HX909.

I've read several places (Sony quotes) that the LX900 is the features flagship and the HX909 is the picture quality flagship. I have not read anything from Sony on the NX810 being flagship anything. If I could have purchased a 60" HX909 I would have. From my research the NX810 is the 60" image quality flagship.
post #223 of 480
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Originally Posted by Joe Jensen View Post

I've read several places (Sony quotes) that the LX900 is the features flagship and the HX909 is the picture quality flagship. I have not read anything from Sony on the NX810 being flagship anything. If I could have purchased a 60" HX909 I would have. From my research the NX810 is the 60" image quality flagship.

Which one is the "Flagship" Flagship? Sony screwed this one up good... better this than the PQ on my new NX810!
post #224 of 480
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

Greetings, I'm new to the forum but I've learned a lot. I bought the kdl60nx810 @ sony style dot com, Paid 4500.00 with NYS sales tax. That includes, delivery, the 3d bundle(emitter, 2 pair of 3d glasses and alice and wonderland(big deal))..and SONY installlation, that was the bundle. I prefer that to the 20 % off and having to buy 4 HDMI cables @ 25.00 a pop, when I can get them for 5.00 a piece. Why did I buy it from sony style dot com?. Because COSTCO will not get it. Best Buy don't have it. and PC richards don't have it.
When I priced it at PC richards and best buy they wwere throwing numbers like 5700.00 w/the delivery and 3d kit and all.
Why did I choose this over the lx900?? . Because my friend has the 810 and it's great.
Further research and confirmation from the sony rep(she has the 810), sealed the deal. COSTCO looked in their computers for me, nothing 810ish in the logs. BTW, any costco will look this info up for you. I think the 810 is the flagship, so sony won't let it go at deep discounts just yet. If COSTO does get it I'd be surprised, but you never know. Now I'm waiting for the thing to be deleivered(between 11 and 5, oh joy..). I want to get a nice stand for this 60incher, but don't neccessarily need a 60 inch table. The base dimension(pedastal the set somes with) is supposed to be 21x12, as per the specs on the sony site. Sony tech support says the base is 21x15. I saw an lx900 and the base was 21X15. Anyway, any reccomendations on a stand? for now I'm going to use a 4ft folding table or a spare. I can't get hold of my buddy to get the base dimensions.


Check TVstands.com they have some pretty nice stuff, and reasonably priced.
post #225 of 480
^^Thanks for that.. wow.. no one can tell me the dimensions of the base. Huh.. So many experts that don't own this TV..Anyone know of a forum where OWNERS and USERS of the 60nx810 post and have a KNOWLEDGE BASE and SHARE info??. I see a lot of speculation and corrections of what the 810 might be but no real technical exchange of info on it's usage, setup, add-ons etc. Anyone know where to find that?? TIA. BTW - I don't see a 909 bigger than 52 inches. For 60 inch TV's I beleive the 810NX is their flagship, In fact I'd bet it is. I'll let you know how it works in a few days..perhaps..wow..
post #226 of 480
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

^^Thanks for that.. wow.. no one can tell me the dimensions of the base. Huh.. So many experts that don't own this TV..Anyone know of a forum where OWNERS and USERS of the 60nx810 post and have a KNOWLEDGE BASE and SHARE info??. I see a lot of speculation and corrections of what the 810 might be but no real technical exchange of info on it's usage, setup, add-ons etc. Anyone know where to find that?? TIA. BTW - I don't see a 909 bigger than 52 inches. For 60 inch TV's I beleive the 810NX is their flagship, In fact I'd bet it is. I'll let you know how it works in a few days..perhaps..wow..

Heh sbx007, pardon me for not running out to the garage to fetch a tape measure to help you out. Is your first name Dick?
post #227 of 480
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

^^Thanks for that.. wow.. no one can tell me the dimensions of the base. Huh.. So many experts that don't own this TV..Anyone know of a forum where OWNERS and USERS of the 60nx810 post and have a KNOWLEDGE BASE and SHARE info??. I see a lot of speculation and corrections of what the 810 might be but no real technical exchange of info on it's usage, setup, add-ons etc. Anyone know where to find that?? TIA. BTW - I don't see a 909 bigger than 52 inches. For 60 inch TV's I beleive the 810NX is their flagship, In fact I'd bet it is. I'll let you know how it works in a few days..perhaps..wow..

Maybe this thread? I think the Sony Style site also give dimensions of the stand itself. If I find it, I will post the information.

EDIT: Just read your post that you have conflicting dimensions from Sony...
post #228 of 480
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

Why did I choose this over the lx900?? . Because my friend has the 810 and it's great.

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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

^^Thanks for that.. wow.. no one can tell me the dimensions of the base. Huh.. So many experts that don't own this TV..Anyone know of a forum where OWNERS and USERS of the 60nx810 post and have a KNOWLEDGE BASE and SHARE info??. I see a lot of speculation and corrections of what the 810 might be but no real technical exchange of info on it's usage, setup, add-ons etc. Anyone know where to find that?? TIA. BTW - I don't see a 909 bigger than 52 inches. For 60 inch TV's I beleive the 810NX is their flagship, In fact I'd bet it is. I'll let you know how it works in a few days..perhaps..wow..

Why not just ask your friend I'm sure being an owner his "KNOWLEDGE BASE" might be helpful...good luck
post #229 of 480
I moved the Samsung 52A750 to the master bedroom and setup the Sony over the weekend. I must say that the TV's picture is awesome and enjoy it over my Samsung.
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post #230 of 480
more pictures of unboxing please! any pictures on the display with the lights off (tripod shots)?
post #231 of 480
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Originally Posted by Jawad View Post

more pictures of unboxing please! any pictures on the display with the lights off (tripod shots)?

I don't have a camera handy, but rest assured that the black screen cover is pretty glossy and pretty reflective. If I took a picture with the lights on, you would see a reflection of the tripod and camera.

The HX909, LX900, and NX810 all have the same super contrast screen technology acording to Sony. I've viewed all extensively in several stores and all seem to have the same screen technology and same reflectivity to my eye.

That said, if you can't find one of those to audition, I recommend not buying the TV. I would never buy a TV without auditioning comparables from that manufacturer. I ended up buying the NX810 without auditioning one, but I spent maybe 10 hours viewing the HX909 and LX900 which have the same technologies other than backlights...joe
post #232 of 480
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Originally Posted by Joe Jensen View Post

... That said, if you can't find one of those to audition, I recommend not buying the TV. I would never buy a TV without auditioning comparables from that manufacturer. I ended up buying the NX810 without auditioning one, but I spent maybe 10 hours viewing the HX909 and LX900 which have the same technologies other than backlights...joe

Regarding the reflection in the screen: When you are watching a show, and there is a dark scene on the display, do you see yourself in the screen?

Do you notice any good / bad points regarding the local dimming? Any blooming or any kind of flicker (especially near the edges)?

Thanks for sharing!
post #233 of 480
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Originally Posted by MTech8 View Post

I am 99% that I saw the NX710 (or similar model being sold at Costco). I stopped by a Costco in Irvine, CA to see if they had the NX801 in-stock. I almost pulled the trigger on that unit cuz they had a special where they threw in a home theater system. They didn't have it, but had a 55 inch NX710. I'm pretty sure it was the NX710 because it had the monolithic styling, plus it claimed to have 240mhz refresh rate.

I ended up going with the NX810 because I wanted a 60" screen, plus wanted the anti-reflective coating. 3D is just a bonus.

Just stopped by Costco again. They aren't selling the NX710. They have it as the HX701. It's 240mhz referesh with the Monolith design.

They also have another new 3D model. Forgot the model number. But it was I think it was another HX model with a P or S at the end of it. Just like what the other poster said. Costco specific models.
post #234 of 480
Had my new KDL-55NX810 for about 1 week now. Overall, very happy with picture quality, features, and internet streaming quality. It also streams Dolby 5.1 audio if you select 'audio component' on the speaker menu. HOWEVER, the speaker audio quality is gross. The sound out of the speakers is a 'tinny' sound, very similar to a cheap radio. Despite my numerous setting changes in the audio custom mode and also changing the speaker directional setting (it has normal and down) the audio is bad, almost to the point that I thought one of my speakers was bad.

The TV speakers are on the back of the TV and are very small since the TV thickness is less than 1 inch. Although the specs say 8w speakers(2) + 10w woofer, don't expect good sound. And the sound is much worse that my old Sony KDL-46XBR4 (it had 10w speakers (2) on the side).

I am keeping the TV-decided to buy the Bushin (SU-B550S) optional NX810 TV stand since it has a 40w 2.1 speaker system built-in the stand itself and the speakers are facing forward. I posted a more detailed review in the NX810 Owners thread on this forum. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post19332924
post #235 of 480
So, has anyone purchased the SU-B550S stand with built-in speakers and sub or heard how it sounds?

Edit - didn't realize that the Sony optional stand is the Bushin Stand that the previous poster mentioned. Any other opinions on it?
post #236 of 480
Just received the Sony (SU-B550S) NX810 optional stand (w/integrated 2.1 speakers, 40w), and tried the sound. Fixes the audio issue of the NX810 built-in speakers of my previous post. Good bass and rich sound from the speaker stand(not as good as my surround sound BOSE) and am happy with it overall. It integrates well with the TV, as the hookup is via the HDMI 1 ( ARM ). You plug the Bluray player into the stand's HDMI in jack, and then use the stand's HDMI out jack to connect to the TV. As such, the TV's volume controls the speaker stand, and you have control of treble/bass via the TV home-audio setting. The TVs on/off also controls the stand power.

Since the DVD player HDMI connects to the stand itself and the stand passes thru the sound as well as the TV audio ckt passing audio back to the stand on the same cables, there is no loss of HDMI connections.

The stand has status lights indicating what kind of audio input (stereo, Dolby 5.1 or DTS). The stand is a 2.1 without any surround sound simulation circuit.

I am happy with the fix, but still is upsetting that I had to pay an additional $350 to fix a Sony design issue with the TV speakers. The sound now is comparable to my old 46XBR4 that had 20w speakers on the front side of the screen.

Have not yet mounted the TV to the stand itself, since I am waiting for my help to get home, so I am hoping the mounting is solid (combined TV and stand is too heavy for one persion). I did not like the NX810's provided stand as the TV would shake if you touched it-TV stand has alots of give since it rotates left/right as well as swivels in the vertical by 6deg.
post #237 of 480
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Originally Posted by donaldm823 View Post

Had my new KDL-55NX810 for about 1 week now. Overall, very happy with picture quality, features, and internet streaming quality. It also streams Dolby 5.1 audio if you select 'audio component' on the speaker menu. HOWEVER, the speaker audio quality is gross. The sound out of the speakers is a 'tinny' sound, very similar to a cheap radio. Despite my numerous setting changes in the audio custom mode and also changing the speaker directional setting (it has normal and down) the audio is bad, almost to the point that I thought one of my speakers was bad.

The TV speakers are on the back of the TV and are very small since the TV thickness is less than 1 inch. Although the specs say 8w speakers(2) + 10w woofer, don't expect good sound. And the sound is much worse that my old Sony KDL-46XBR4 (it had 10w speakers (2) on the side).

I am keeping the TV-decided to buy the Bushin (SU-B550S) optional NX810 TV stand since it has a 40w 2.1 speaker system built-in the stand itself and the speakers are facing forward. I posted a more detailed review in the NX810 Owners thread on this forum. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post19332924

Aside from space. Any reason to go w/ this stand as opposed to a "sound system"?. 350.00 is a lot for a stand w/speakers unless it's space issue or something I'm overlooking. My 60nx810 is sitting in my living room awaiting Sony installation(because it comes w/ the bundle), so Im anticipating sound "issues". Sure hope the 99.00 stand I bought at Walmart suppoerts this thing..
post #238 of 480
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Originally Posted by Joe Jensen View Post

Heh sbx007, pardon me for not running out to the garage to fetch a tape measure to help you out. Is your first name Dick?

NP. I got the dimensions from sony tech. First name is Steve. nice meeting you dick... .
When it's set up I'll let dick know what the actual dimensions are to the micron.
Say good night Dick. Goodnight Dick.
post #239 of 480
The best part of these threads are the arguments of what models COSTCO sells. Maybe 1 or 2 posters have an 810. Everyone wants one for cheap..sure, why not wait till next x-mas. Living well is lifes revenge.
post #240 of 480
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Originally Posted by sbx007 View Post

Aside from space. Any reason to go w/ this stand as opposed to a "sound system"?. 350.00 is a lot for a stand w/speakers unless it's space issue or something I'm overlooking. My 60nx810 is sitting in my living room awaiting Sony installation(because it comes w/ the bundle), so Im anticipating sound "issues". Sure hope the 99.00 stand I bought at Walmart suppoerts this thing..

I for one do not use my BOSE surround sound amp (my sound system)for most recurring programming and TV shows. As such, this speaker stand is a good addition so I can have decent sound. I turn on the BOSE for any music or DVD/BluRay. Before, it 'hurt' just to listen to the audio over the TV speakers!

When I use the BOSE for regular TV, sometimes the DVR will not skip ahead properly and I lose sound for several minutes. Now with this TV stand, since the sound is so good, I will probably use this for most TV programs, and use the BOSE just for high quality BluRAy/DVD audio
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