New Sony NX710 and NX810 models - Page 11

Originally Posted by sbx007

What do you mean?. My 60nx810 plays perfect from all angles. I'm lookiing to critisize it. I can't nor can anyone else. Maybe its the signal or service provider?. The image on non-hd channels(for my case) is spectacular. I'm watching hockey games, Baseball, news broadcasts with the graphics..non-hd. I can't find fault.

Originally Posted by dkam

I haven't tried running a 3D movie through my system yet. I should check it out to see what happens. Other than that the 5400es is an amazing receiver. The new 5600es is full 1.4 compliant and has some other great features. Been very happy witht he Es receivers over the years just like my older XBRs. No problems whatsover

Originally Posted by gripen08

Well how about that. I also got a 25" XBR waaay back then. Got mine in black. I do remember the mauve ones, and I think there was another color available as well, maybe light blue or white. I remember Crazy Eddies well but I got mine at a small place called Prisco's in Westchester Co. BTW, it is still going . Now down at my mother-in-law's. Had to replace a part for about $100 around 6 years ago, but it was worth it. Still a great bedroom TV as is the 32" XBR100 I got back in '95, the one with the separate "feature box". I had a 27" non-XBR that my mother-in-law also now has. AND still have 2 13" white little monsters that won't die either....amazing. (My original Sony was a 21" model with the wood paneled sides and rudimentary remote, meaning up and down channel selector, no numbers to punch in).
Anyway, to the subject at hand, the NX810. I'm going to demo one when it comes in later this week vs. the HX909, and the LX900 (at another store). Looking for 60" minimum (wish the 909 was bigger than 52"). I have checked out the Panasonic VT25, Samsung plasmas and LCDs and the Sony NX700, NX800 and EX700. Best overall PQ so far was the Panasonic but it is a little dark and aesthetically can't hold a candle to the monolithic Sonys. I'm primarily interested in PQ in regular 2D (not into 3D yet), and what it looks like with HD and SD. I'm also into movies and want to see if shutting down enough picture enhancement will avoid the soap opera effect. Don't care about audio capability as I have a B&K 5.1 surround system , Vienna Acoustics fronts, rears and center, and a REL sub. Will let you know my impressions later this week on the Sonys.
Cheers...........

Originally Posted by dkam

Thats exactly what I mean. Its like other LED TV you lose some contrast. But the picture is still very good and very watchable so whomever criticizes the set for poor off angle viewing must be a very particular viewer. I find the NX810 overall a solid set

Originally Posted by John Carmichael

I purchased the magnificent 55NX810 last Saturday. I have no complaints about the picture quality. It's fantastic in both 2D and 3D.

But I see an annoying problem:

I CAN NOT ACCESS THE PIP (picture in picture) FUNCTION.
According to the i-Manual, to access PIP, you go to Options then to PIP while watching air or cable TV. Surprisingly, the PIP setting does not appear anywhere in Options! I couldn't find it in the HOME menu either. I tried finding it in Options with different inputs on the screen: HDMI, Component, TV, and PC (with an HDMI connection). Still no success. It's almost as if this TV does not have PIP. Do any of you owners have PIP on this set?

Originally Posted by dfp

Not an owner, but most sets will only display a picture in the PIP window from the integrated internal over-the-air (antenna) / cable tuner (ATSC/QAM). You can watch HDMI, component, PC, and TV input in the Main window, and only antenna/cable (TV) input in the PIP window.

This means you have to connect an antenna or cable to the coaxial RF (TV) 75 ohm connector on the back of the set. Then scan for over the air or cable channels using the autoprogram feature. Your set may not even display the PIP option if these two conditions aren't present.

If you are using a cable box, you can use a splitter and split the cable before it goes into the back of the box, and feed the second lead into the RF connector on the back of the set. In flat terrain, a $37 RCA ANT1250 indoor amplified antenna can pick up stations ~ 25 miles away. (PS: this setup also allows us to watch a TV show while our dual HDDVR is tied up recording 2 programs.)

If you're set up this way, and it still doesn't work, let me know and I'll try to download the manual for your set and see if I can see some other problem. I'm stuck in a hotel and have the time. Good luck.

Originally Posted by John Carmichael

All the NX810 models are supposed to have PIP, according to the official Sony specs. The owners manual is integrated into the TV (very handy!), but it is not available online for download (not very handy). It clearly states that PIP comes with these sets.

I do have antenna air TV hooked up, and have scanned for available channels, but still no PIP function is available.

Thank you for your offer to help, but I really need for an actual owner to investigate this problem.

Originally Posted by sbx007

Yes. There was one other color. The mauve wasn't that bad at all. Chicks loved it .. I remeber the 21 incher w/ the wood panel, I think my parents had one. I think you'll like the 810. I looked at a lot of TV's. They all for the most part are fine. However 60 inches of nx810, I got no regrets. When I gave an 82 yr old sceptic those 3-d glasses and couldn't get them back..No regrets. BTW - I bought my first real "stereo"
@ Prisco's, lived in Yonkers back then. It was a panasonic jobby with an 8-track that popped up, I was 13 .. along time ago. When the 32" came out, and my friend got it I was really jealouse. Those CRT's looked pretty good back then.. it's all relative

Originally Posted by donaldm823

PIP only works when you have PC (computer) input and another input per the i-manual. In fact, PIP does not even show up in options unless two inputs are present. Below is the quote from the i-manaul (online http://esupport.sony.com/docs/imanua.../1a/index.html and confirmed on my 55NX810

PIP displays a picture from the connected PC in the full screen, and a TV program or composite video in an inset window. This feature is available when a PC is connected with an HDMI cable. Available inputs may vary depending on the TV model.

Now my 3 year old XBR4 was different as PIP allowed you to watch a TV channel is window and any other input in another windown, both displayed at the same time

Originally Posted by Zoglog

Does this TV support reverse audio channel HDMI and Ethernet over HDMI?

Originally Posted by dfp

Guys, there may be some wiggle room in the quote.
1. It says the main window needs a PC connected via HDMI. But then it says "Available inputs may vary depending on the TV model."
2. It says a "TV program or composite video in an inset (PIP) window." To me, a "TV program" comes in via the internal tuner from an RF 75 ohm input.

So, connect the antenna/cable to the RF input and scan for channels to let the set know the PIP input is available. Then, while watching from the cable/satellite set-top box connected via HDMI, try selecting PIP from the Option menu.

My Samsung, your XBR4, and most one-tuner TVs allow HDMI, PC, Component, etc. inputs in the main window and internal tuner (via 75 ohm input) in the PIP window. e.g., the external tuner in the set top box, PC, etc. provides one feed via HDMI, and the internal ATSC/QAM tuner the other via RF.

Give it a try. Nothing to lose. Good luck.

Originally Posted by dfp

Guys, there may be some wiggle room in the quote.
1. It says the main window needs a PC connected via HDMI. But then it says "Available inputs may vary depending on the TV model."
2. It says a "TV program or composite video in an inset (PIP) window." To me, a "TV program" comes in via the internal tuner from an RF 75 ohm input.

So, connect the antenna/cable to the RF input and scan for channels to let the set know the PIP input is available. Then, while watching from the cable/satellite set-top box connected via HDMI, try selecting PIP from the Option menu.

My Samsung, your XBR4, and most one-tuner TVs allow HDMI, PC, Component, etc. inputs in the main window and internal tuner (via 75 ohm input) in the PIP window. e.g., the external tuner in the set top box, PC, etc. provides one feed via HDMI, and the internal ATSC/QAM tuner the other via RF.

Give it a try. Nothing to lose. Good luck.

Originally Posted by gripen08

Ain't that the truth... Thanks for the input on the 810. We shall see when I check it out this week.

Originally Posted by gripen08

BTW, I found an old marketing pamphlet for the 25" XBR and the mauve was actually called Plum and the other color was Beige which almost looks like a light yellow. And there was a pedestal stand with foot controls and you could attach the speaker to the sides of the stand instead of the TV. There was also a 20" version too. Pamphlet is dated 11/84. Also had a bunch of other accessories like a clock timer remote control, other stand/cabinet options and believe it or not a wireless headphone setup called Remote Control Stereo Receiver/Commander !! Brochure starts with statement "You may have bought your last color television" "That's not a threat. It's a promise". And "At the top of theTrinitron XBR line stands our outstanding KV-25XBR: a giant-screen model with audio and video entertainment possibilities......" I like the term "giant-screen" , shows the perspective back then.

Ok enough...didn't want to turn this into the Sony KV-25XBR owners thread but interesting nostalgia nonetheless...

Originally Posted by donaldm823

PIP only works when you have PC (computer) input and another input per the i-manual. In fact, PIP does not even show up in options unless two inputs are present. Below is the quote from the i-manaul (online http://esupport.sony.com/docs/imanua.../1a/index.html and confirmed on my 55NX810

“PIP” displays a picture from the connected PC in the full screen, and a TV program or composite video in an inset window. This feature is available when a PC is connected with an HDMI cable. Available inputs may vary depending on the TV model.

Now my 3 year old XBR4 was different as PIP allowed you to watch a TV channel is window and any other input in another windown, both displayed at the same time

Originally Posted by donaldm823

NO WIGGLE!!!! When I am using HDMI#4 (my FIOS box), and select 'options' there is no PIP selection on my 55NX810.

I have cable input split-with cable in to both the TV and the DVR-that way I can watch a local channel if I am recording two channels on the DVR. I periodically watch TV straight into TV bypassing the cable (FIOS) box, as sometimes the surround sound is better since the FIOS box compresses the audio stream

Originally Posted by John Carmichael

Thanks for your comments Donald, and for finding an online version of the i-Manual.

I have tried connections of almost every type. (Component, Air TV, Cable TV and PC w/ HDMI. (I did not try VGA with PC or Composite however). I also auto-programed the air TV and Cable channels. I turned the TV off then on. Nothing works. PIP still does not appear in the Options list. I now think that PIP is not available on this set as advertised by Sony. I hope at least one of you actual owners can prove me wrong. Does PIP work for any of you NX810 owners?

Originally Posted by Zoglog

Does this TV support reverse audio channel HDMI and Ethernet over HDMI?

Originally Posted by donaldm823

HDMI #1 is also an ARC port. I have an externasl audio connected via HDMI #1 which also has the BluRay. For info, TV has 4 HDMI ports, twq of the ports are on the back and two on the side. Only one of them is ARC and it is on the back

Originally Posted by sbx007

810 does have ARC Yes, it's the TOP HDMI port and clearly marked, you won't miss it.

Ethernet no. If it did then the modem/router would have to support HDMI I would think..Plus it's got wireless, but ehternet/hdmi when ready would be nice. Don't know of any TV's that have it. The 810 does have a direct ethernet port. Those HDMI 1.4 cables w/ ethernet., I think they're meant for the componants maybe.. that's my understanding of it. there's a good link somewhere, if you google hdmi ethernet there's an overwhelming amt of info. I never wanted to know this much about HDMI. I wish I could forget it
But I would like to know in what cases HDMI/Ethernet is in use.

Originally Posted by Viper2847

While it may have a nicer design, that opticontrast panel makes the picture look darker/duller.

Therefore, as far as performance goes i would still rate the HX800 above the NX810 as the standard glossy panel does not reduce the overall brightness like the glass seems to do. Im pretty sure the NX810/HX800 also both use SPVA panels, and not the superior Sharp UV2A panels found in the HX909/LX900.

And the HX909>over everything else.

Originally Posted by zoro

Precisely said, I looked at both today, same material, and went for 52 inch hx909 instead. I thought 3 inch smaller set for bedroom for almost 50% of msrp is no brained btw always owned a xbr here.

Originally Posted by sbx007

it's 52 inches and doesn't have the capabilities teh 810 has. Different strokes different folks. I saw the 52 incher hx 909. I wouldn't pay 2300 for it. Didn't compare to the 60 or the 55 inch 810 IMHO.

Originally Posted by Viper2847

Doesnt have the capabilities tech the 810 has? Buddy, its the other way arround. The HX909 is full-array LED with local dimming compared to the NX810 which is only edge-led with local dimming-no comparison, at all.

Seeing these things in the store with the bright lights they have does not justify giving them a fair comparison, at all.

Originally Posted by sbx007

60 inches..909's aren't 60 inches. Compare a movie or hockey game, adjust the settings. I took the 60 inch 810. You like the 909. Good. Regardless of specs, I liked the 810. So comparing a 52 inch tv to a 55 inch or 60 inch is not a good comparison.
My 19" vizio plays beter than both