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post #1771 of 5047
1/21/11 at 6:34pm
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Actually this is true. The IPS panel crystals are arranged perpendicular to the screen (VA are parallel to screen). Because of this they are not disrupted as much when pressure is applied to the screen. This is probably the easiest way to identify an IPS panel.

There's some good info on www.lg-display.com about IPS technology. You'll have to switch the site over to english (upper-right corner) , unless you are fluent in Korean or Chinese.

Here's a quote from the site:
In fact, an increasing amount of Chinese customers comes to the electronics stores to touch the surfaces of TVs to check if they are real IPS panels.

I touched my panel tonight when I got home (why does that sound so bad?) and it is indeed an IPS, which I knew already but a little confirmation is always good. I also used a much better magnifying glass and what I thought were square pixels are indeed chevron shaped.
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post #1772 of 5047
1/21/11 at 7:57pm
Someone had asked awhile back about universal remotes with the LGs. I have a Harmony 880 that I set aside while I was fine-tuning the 520. I set it up tonight in about 10 minutes and it works just fine with the LG, the Sony DVD player, Wii, and the ATV2. Most of the LG's functions are automatically labeled and work just fine.
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post #1773 of 5047
1/21/11 at 8:31pm
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

Everything you needed to know and didn't know what to ask about IPS panels. Go to post #5 to see pics of LG IPS panels.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/lcd-l...ls-placed.html

Goof find Otto Info was also posted somewhere in the first 10 pages of so of the thread. Ok, I deserve it . . . say it with me "smart a$$"

I've been thinking of including that ling in the first post along with additional tidbits.

I've recently looked at the pixels on my 4 year old Mitsubishi LT-46231 and found it too has an S-IPS panel. Ni wonder it looked so much better than the other brands with clouds, banding, and other picture uniformity issues 4 years ago. The black level and viewing angle on my Mits seems identical to the new LG I have, sand I'm happy with both of them. Back 4 years ago though, the Mits was $2,700.
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post #1774 of 5047
1/21/11 at 8:41pm
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

The attachment below is a short summary from the link I posted awhile ago. It basically shows one how to read the model number and serial of their LG LCD. Too much free time today at work

Attachment 198860

I've seen that info before and it was reviewed since then. Just to alert folks, it is not 100% kosher. This list means with the codes mentioned you are LIKELY to get a specific LCD panel. There are cases where a "W" panel has not been IPS, mostly in 32" and 26", but also in some 47" and 42".

The best test for IPS is a magnifying lens. Even the "dragging finger" test is not 100%. I've tried it in several stores with IPS panels I've verified with my handy pocket lens, and I've gotten ripples and trails. It's the AMOUNT or degree of ripple you get in some cases. Screen temperature seems to play a part.
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post #1775 of 5047
1/21/11 at 9:43pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

I've seen that info before and it was reviewed since then. Just to alert folks, it is not 100% kosher. This list means with the codes mentioned you are LIKELY to get a specific LCD panel. There are cases where a "W" panel has not been IPS, mostly in 32" and 26", but also in some 47" and 42".

The best test for IPS is a magnifying lens. Even the "dragging finger" test is not 100%. I've tried it in several stores with IPS panels I've verified with my handy pocket lens, and I've gotten ripples and trails. It's the AMOUNT or degree of ripple you get in some cases. Screen temperature seems to play a part.

I figured that link had been posted here before but I ran across it in another thread and it was just easier than threading thru this thread

I get absolutely no trails with the finger test so that's good and all other indications are that I have "the" panel. Doesn't really matter even if I don't because this tv is not going back. Everything else is too fackin' awesome to be bothered by a little off-axis issue which I wouldn't normally see anyway.
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post #1776 of 5047
1/21/11 at 10:09pm
I was home all day today and had a lot more time to spend watching and evaluating the new tv. I discovered that mine also suffers from the "stuttering" problem that others have reported. I noticed it on several network programs and a couple of reality shows. I tried it with judder set to 0 along with various blur settings and also with TruMotion turned completely off, but the problem persisted.
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post #1777 of 5047
1/21/11 at 10:50pm
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Originally Posted by downsideup View Post

I was home all day today and had a lot more time to spend watching and evaluating the new tv. I discovered that mine also suffers from the "stuttering" problem that others have reported. I noticed it on several network programs and a couple of reality shows. I tried it with judder set to 0 along with various blur settings and also with TruMotion turned completely off, but the problem persisted.

Is your box plugged in to the TV via HDMI? and if so, what does the set report for the signal/picture type when you press the info button when the stuttering happens (ie. 1080i, 1080/60p, 720p...etc)?
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post #1778 of 5047
1/21/11 at 11:10pm
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Originally Posted by kaisek View Post

Is your box plugged in to the TV via HDMI? and if so, what does the set report for the signal/picture type when you press the info button when the stuttering happens (ie. 1080i, 1080/60p, 720p...etc)?

Yes, HDMI straight from the cable box to the tv. It's showing 1080i.

I watched The Dark Knight on DVD last night and didn't notice any stuttering. My DVD player upconverts to 1080i and is connected via HDMI. I also have my XBox 360 connected via HDMI with tv in game mode and didn't see any stuttering while playing Halo Reach or COD: Black Ops. The XBox is outputting 1080p.
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post #1779 of 5047
1/22/11 at 2:50am
I know we don't discuss price on the forum, but for those monitoring this list because they want one of these models...I went to Fry's today for a DVD (disc not player) and came out with a "major name brand" 55" TV for eight-nine-nine. That's what the ad says, but it's a 55ld520.

This was bought to replace a Bravia 46" LCD that the grandson slightly damaged. I'd recently bought a 50px950 for my den and the wife was a bit jealous. So, we moved the Bravia into the bar and this 55ld520 into the media room. She primarily plays PS3 on a 120" screen projected from our Optoma HD70, but sometimes she doesn't want to "deal with it". About 12-hours of use and I've heard no complaints of lag and only praise on the picture.

Cheers,

Dustin (wirefall)
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post #1780 of 5047
1/22/11 at 12:40pm
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Originally Posted by downsideup View Post

Yes, HDMI straight from the cable box to the tv. It's showing 1080i.

I watched The Dark Knight on DVD last night and didn't notice any stuttering. My DVD player upconverts to 1080i and is connected via HDMI. I also have my XBox 360 connected via HDMI with tv in game mode and didn't see any stuttering while playing Halo Reach or COD: Black Ops. The XBox is outputting 1080p.

I don't notice anything while gaming too. Could you try playing a DVD with the Xbox and seeing if it stutters? I have the stutter issue playing DVDs and Netflix on my 360 when connected via HDMI at 1080p and VGA.
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post #1781 of 5047
1/22/11 at 1:01pm
I'm looking for a new master bedroom tv (12x14 room), which will be used with the 2nd tuner from a Dish Network 722 (no HD out on 2nd tuner). It will be stand-alone: no AV receiver, BD player, game system, etc. I'm ready to buy a 42LD550 today since it's down to six-fiddy on amazon, but want to make sure the following assumptions are correct:

-the picture will look good relative to the competition in standard def
-it will continue to be supported and receive firmware updates to improve/fix Netcast features
-I will be able to stream Divx movies from my computer to it via ethernet (provided they're encoded correctly and I'm using Nero/WMP)

I like the intelligent sensor dimming since it will often be watched at night in a pitch-dark room, that + the apps/connectivity sold it for me, just want to make sure there's no aspect I'm missing given my viewing environment/parameters.
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post #1782 of 5047
1/22/11 at 2:28pm
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Originally Posted by bigd480 View Post

I'm looking for a new master bedroom tv (12x14 room), which will be used with the 2nd tuner from a Dish Network 722 (no HD out on 2nd tuner). It will be stand-alone: no AV receiver, BD player, game system, etc. I'm ready to buy a 42LD550 today since it's down to six-fiddy on amazon, but want to make sure the following assumptions are correct:

-the picture will look good relative to the competition in standard def
-it will continue to be supported and receive firmware updates to improve/fix Netcast features
-I will be able to stream Divx movies from my computer to it via ethernet (provided they're encoded correctly and I'm using Nero/WMP)

I like the intelligent sensor dimming since it will often be watched at night in a pitch-dark room, that + the apps/connectivity sold it for me, just want to make sure there's no aspect I'm missing given my viewing environment/parameters.

As a 6 month owner of the 42LD550, yes on all items.

Very good acquisition fee also.

When you are ready for initial set up, let us know and I would recommend starting with the Cinema setting we have here in the thread, before going on to Expert settings.
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post #1783 of 5047
1/22/11 at 3:47pm
Has Netcast added Pandora yet?
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post #1784 of 5047
1/22/11 at 4:29pm
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Has Netcast added Pandora yet?

No
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post #1785 of 5047
1/22/11 at 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by leech1980 View Post

No

Hasn't Netcast been promising Pandora for a while now?
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post #1786 of 5047
1/22/11 at 7:50pm
I went out and bought a 550 today since that's all my local retailer had in stock. I haven't had it on for very long yet, but so far it doesn't seem to stutter as much while watching cable tv as the 520 does. However, it has it's own set of problems. For one, it's not nearly as bright as the 520 (both set up with energy saver off and the backlight and brightness at the factory preset level). With Energy Saver set on auto, the 550 is too dark to watch. I'm not sure it even has an Intelligent Sensor. My 520 has an oval-shaped cutout at the bottom right corner with both the remote sensor and the Intelligent Sensor inside. The 550 I bought today just has a much smaller cutout with only the remote sensor inside. Oddly enough, when you bring up the 550 on LG's website and look the photos in the gallery, you can see that the 550 they have pictured has the larger oval cutout just like the 520. The one I just brought home was manufactured in July 2010. I wonder if this was a factory screwup that was discovered and then corrected in models produced later in the year? The 550 also has a less stable base that has the tv tilting back towards the wall behind my tv stand. Needless to say, I'm not happy with either right now. I really wanted one of these to work out since they're so good for gaming.
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post #1787 of 5047
1/22/11 at 8:03pm
I've got the stuttering problem on my TV as well (47LD520). I've noticed it on some of the TV channels I have been watching in HD, both 1080i and 720p. I'm using a Tivo with Cable Card, HDMI. I have the Tivo set to Native resolution, so there are no conversions or upscaling. I also have stuttering on my PS3, HDMI, 1080p and 720p, both on games and movies. Perhaps the newest versions of this TV have this problem, which may be why they were on a huge sale recently at our local Fry's. Anyway, in the absence of any solution or a way to upgrade the firmware to fix this, I'll be returning it. I'm hoping something can be done, but I'm not optimistic.
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post #1788 of 5047
1/22/11 at 10:36pm
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Originally Posted by xeno99 View Post

I've got the stuttering problem on my TV as well (47LD520). I've noticed it on some of the TV channels I have been watching in HD, both 1080i and 720p. I'm using a Tivo with Cable Card, HDMI. I have the Tivo set to Native resolution, so there are no conversions or upscaling. I also have stuttering on my PS3, HDMI, 1080p and 720p, both on games and movies. Perhaps the newest versions of this TV have this problem, which may be why they were on a huge sale recently at our local Fry's. Anyway, in the absence of any solution or a way to upgrade the firmware to fix this, I'll be returning it. I'm hoping something can be done, but I'm not optimistic.

Hmmm, I have a 3 week old 47LD520 and I haven't noticed any stuttering at all with either OTA tv, DVDs, or ATV2.
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post #1789 of 5047
1/22/11 at 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

Hmmm, I have a 3 week old 47LD520 and I haven't noticed any stuttering at all with either OTA tv, DVDs, or ATV2.

You also have firmware/software version 03.05.04, correct?
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post #1790 of 5047
1/23/11 at 12:09am
3 questions about the LG 47LD520 model as I am interested in buying it:

I read somewhere that the dark areas are kinda tinted blue and the picture uniformity is kinda poor. Has anyone else noticed these problems in it?

How does sports (mainly football) look on it?

And would I notice 1080p viewing it from 6-7 feet?
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post #1791 of 5047
1/23/11 at 12:13am
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Originally Posted by kaisek View Post

I don't notice anything while gaming too. Could you try playing a DVD with the Xbox and seeing if it stutters? I have the stutter issue playing DVDs and Netflix on my 360 when connected via HDMI at 1080p and VGA.

I just tried a DVD with the XBox. It was pretty choppy at 1080p via HDMI. But it was different from what I experience with cable tv. With cable tv, I see a brief slowdown or stuttering of motion. It looks to me like it's doing exactly what you described it as doing....."dropping frames" here and there. The DVD played on the XBox was more of a constant choppiness rather than a random brief slowdown.
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post #1792 of 5047
1/23/11 at 1:59am
Is this stuttering you guys are talking about the same or similar to dropped frame rates I keep reading about int he earlier posts about the 550?
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post #1793 of 5047
1/23/11 at 2:22am
yeah is a stupid problem tbh

how did LG allow it i dont understand
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post #1794 of 5047
1/23/11 at 7:13am
Yeah; this stuttering thing; it's weird; but like i said (post # 1738), for me it's the only drawback i found; everything else working good (i didn't test VGA port); LG tv are good bang for the buck at all...
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post #1795 of 5047
1/23/11 at 7:25am
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Originally Posted by downsideup View Post

I just tried a DVD with the XBox. It was pretty choppy at 1080p via HDMI. But it was different from what I experience with cable tv. With cable tv, I see a brief slowdown or stuttering of motion. It looks to me like it's doing exactly what you described it as doing....."dropping frames" here and there. The DVD played on the XBox was more of a constant choppiness rather than a random brief slowdown.

What is perplexing about this issue is as Otto noted he hasn't noticed it on his 3 input devices on his 47LD520 and I haven't noticed it on my 42LD550 with any of my devices ( OTA, 3 different BD players, or HP s5560f HTPC ).

The thing that seems to be common is cable or satellite box, XBox 360 or PS3, or some computer connects through HDMI. My build date is July 2010.

Also, regarding the "Auto" mode for the Energy sensor. . . I have only a small round sensor for the remote on the TV bezel. I agree the Auto mode is way too dark which explains why owners with the 520 say it's ok, but my 550 isn't. I just switch manually to Minimum at night to reduce back light about 20%. I'm wondering if some earlier made 550s have the oval sensor, since a few earlier posters back in September use the "Auto" mode and it works ok for them. My 42LD550 has no oval additional sensor.
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post #1796 of 5047
1/23/11 at 7:31am
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Originally Posted by downsideup View Post

I went out and bought a 550 today since that's all my local retailer had in stock. I haven't had it on for very long yet, but so far it doesn't seem to stutter as much while watching cable tv as the 520 does. However, it has it's own set of problems. For one, it's not nearly as bright as the 520 (both set up with energy saver off and the backlight and brightness at the factory preset level). With Energy Saver set on auto, the 550 is too dark to watch. I'm not sure it even has an Intelligent Sensor. My 520 has an oval-shaped cutout at the bottom right corner with both the remote sensor and the Intelligent Sensor inside. The 550 I bought today just has a much smaller cutout with only the remote sensor inside. Oddly enough, when you bring up the 550 on LG's website and look the photos in the gallery, you can see that the 550 they have pictured has the larger oval cutout just like the 520. The one I just brought home was manufactured in July 2010. I wonder if this was a factory screwup that was discovered and then corrected in models produced later in the year? The 550 also has a less stable base that has the tv tilting back towards the wall behind my tv stand. Needless to say, I'm not happy with either right now. I really wanted one of these to work out since they're so good for gaming.

You might make sure you have al the "Dynamic " settings "OFF" in the advanced menu also and Gamma set to Low. These can affect overall brightness.
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post #1797 of 5047
1/23/11 at 9:03am
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

What is perplexing about this issue is as Otto noted he hasn't noticed it on his 3 input devices on his 47LD520 and I haven't noticed it on my 42LD550 with any of my devices ( OTA, 3 different BD players, or HP s5560f HTPC ).

The thing that seems to be common is cable or satellite box, XBox 360 or PS3, or some computer connects through HDMI. My build date is July 2010.

Also, regarding the "Auto" mode for the Energy sensor. . . I have only a small round sensor for the remote on the TV bezel. I agree the Auto mode is way too dark which explains why owners with the 520 say it's ok, but my 550 isn't. I just switch manually to Minimum at night to reduce back light about 20%. I'm wondering if some earlier made 550s have the oval sensor, since a few earlier posters back in September use the "Auto" mode and it works ok for them. My 42LD550 has no oval additional sensor.

no stuttering issues on mine, 42LD520. xbox360 & comcast dvr both hooked up through HDMI.
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post #1798 of 5047
1/23/11 at 10:29am
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Originally Posted by kaisek View Post

You also have firmware/software version 03.05.04, correct?

Yes.
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post #1799 of 5047
1/23/11 at 10:32am
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Originally Posted by Broncosojia View Post

3 questions about the LG 47LD520 model as I am interested in buying it:

I read somewhere that the dark areas are kinda tinted blue and the picture uniformity is kinda poor. Has anyone else noticed these problems in it?

How does sports (mainly football) look on it?

And would I notice 1080p viewing it from 6-7 feet?

In order:
No. PQ is beautiful.
Fantastic. Looking forward the the playoffs this afternoon.
Don't know as I don't have any 1080p content to view.
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post #1800 of 5047
1/23/11 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by alucard_x View Post

no stuttering issues on mine, 42LD520. xbox360 & comcast dvr both hooked up through HDMI.

None on my 47LD520 either. I don't have xbox or ps3, but FIOS, bluray and streaming amazon vod movies using bluray player are all fine over HDMI.
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