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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

What is perplexing about this issue is as Otto noted he hasn't noticed it on his 3 input devices on his 47LD520 and I haven't noticed it on my 42LD550 with any of my devices ( OTA, 3 different BD players, or HP s5560f HTPC ).

The thing that seems to be common is cable or satellite box, XBox 360 or PS3, or some computer connects through HDMI. My build date is July 2010.

Also, regarding the "Auto" mode for the Energy sensor. . . I have only a small round sensor for the remote on the TV bezel. I agree the Auto mode is way too dark which explains why owners with the 520 say it's ok, but my 550 isn't. I just switch manually to Minimum at night to reduce back light about 20%. I'm wondering if some earlier made 550s have the oval sensor, since a few earlier posters back in September use the "Auto" mode and it works ok for them. My 42LD550 has no oval additional sensor.

The sensor on my 520 bezel is oval. I don't use the Auto feature at all. Like Phase, I just manually switch. Lately I've been leaving it at Minimum, day or night. In the evening we usually have a light on in the family room and I've found that leaving it at Minimum instead of Off, gives a much more uniform picture and definitely keeps the "warmth". BTW, the matte screen works really nice.
post #1802 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Broncosojia View Post

I read somewhere that the dark areas are kinda tinted blue and the picture uniformity is kinda poor. Has anyone else noticed these problems in it?

Sounds like you found the CNET review

I've also read about the blacks having a blue tint. I had a 42" 720p panasonic plasma that I replaced with the 47LD520. Since plasmas are supposed to have better blacks than LCD's I was worried about black level performance, so I was watching specifically for this problem when I first hooked up the set. Honestly, I can't see it. Black levels are fine for me; picture uniformity as well.

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How does sports (mainly football) look on it

Really good.


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And would I notice 1080p viewing it from 6-7 feet?

Yes, provided you are viewing 1080p material.
post #1803 of 5047
No stuttering problems here either. 47LD520 connected via HDMI from a Dish HD receiver.
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Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Broncosojia View Post

3 questions about the LG 47LD520 model as I am interested in buying it

How does sports (mainly football) look on it?

And would I notice 1080p viewing it from 6-7 feet?

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*SPORT* ?

Sports looks great over OTA even at 720p.

Packers vs Bears right now!
post #1805 of 5047
47LD520 Football report -

Ok, after many questions, tweaking, and solid advice from members of this forum this my half-time report (Green Bay-Chicago).

The 520 is definitely an S-IPS panel. "W" in the product code, no smudging or halo effect when touching the panel, and with two magnifying glasses back to back, the pixel pattern is definitely chevron shaped (<<<<<<). I am sitting 8 feet back from dead center and 5 feet to the left. No change at all in PQ

Reception is OTA at 720p. I'm using Cinema User settings as posted by Phase with a few minor tweaks for my tastes. No Expert settings are on. TruMotion is set to Low default. To the left of me is an 8x12 sliding glass door with the curtains open and it faces East with puffy clouds. Energy Savings is set to Off.

Auto Volume On, Clear Voice II Off.

Software version is 03.05.04, manufacture date is November 2010.

We've watched quite a few streamed NetFlix movies via ATV2 and the quality was excellent. My son watched the Iron Man II dvd on the Sony RDR VX-535 upconverted via HDMI last night and can't stop talking about how phenomenal the movie was on the 520.

I am extremely satisfied with this tv. It was definitely worth what I paid for it at BB. I'm even getting used to the audio which still is not as good as my Sony but I can live with that.
post #1806 of 5047
Stuttering problem:

Someone have friends who listen movies with Xbox 360, LCD tv (sony, samsung, etc.) and the display option in xbox 360 set to 1080p ?

i wonder if this issue is just for LG lcd tv...
post #1807 of 5047
Thread Starter 
*

***PACKERS***

The picture quality was superb!!!
post #1808 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

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***PACKERS***

The picture quality was superb!!!

Agreed. So far the Jets and Packers in 1080i are looking most excellent as well.
post #1809 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Also, regarding the "Auto" mode for the Energy sensor. . . I have only a small round sensor for the remote on the TV bezel. I agree the Auto mode is way too dark which explains why owners with the 520 say it's ok, but my 550 isn't. I just switch manually to Minimum at night to reduce back light about 20%. I'm wondering if some earlier made 550s have the oval sensor, since a few earlier posters back in September use the "Auto" mode and it works ok for them. My 42LD550 has no oval additional sensor.

The auto mode on the 520 I bought last week works great. It keeps the backlight right where it needs to be. The oval sensor is there on the 550 in the gallery pictures and on the tv pictured on the box, so perhaps you're right about it being present on earlier made models. I can't find a sensor like the one on the 520 anywhere on this 550. I wonder if the 550's we have get too dark because they don't actually have the sensor. I can visibly see the brightness change on the 520 when I mess with the lights in my living room. The brightness of the 550 doesn't change at all when I do the same.

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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

You might make sure you have al the "Dynamic " settings "OFF" in the advanced menu also and Gamma set to Low. These can affect overall brightness.

I will give that a try. I tried changing just the backlight to 41 like you suggest in your baseline settings, just to see what it looked like. It made a golf tournament being played in the middle of the afternoon on a cloudless day look like it was taking place at dusk. I think this 550 might be defective. Naturally, it was the last one they had (other than the display model) so I can't just run out and exchange it for another one. They'd have to order it for me. So at this point, I'm trying to decide which tv I would rather live with....a 520 that stutters a lot or a 550 that stutters less but needs the backlight cranked way up all the time. I would just go with a different brand entirely, but gaming performance is a really important factor for me and from what I've read, the LG's are better for gaming because of the low input lag.
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Originally Posted by downsideup View Post
T I can't find a sensor like the one on the 520 anywhere on this 550. I wonder if the 550's we have get too dark because they don't actually have the sensor. I can visibly see the brightness change on the 520 when I mess with the lights in my living room. The brightness of the 550 doesn't change at all when I do the same.



I will give that a try. I tried changing just the backlight to 41 like you suggest in your baseline settings, just to see what it looked like. It made a golf tournament being played in the middle of the afternoon on a cloudless day look like it was taking place at dusk. I think this 550 might be defective.
The Auto mode does work on my 550, but it has to be VERY, VERY bright in the room as all blinds open on our rear terrace doors, and also on the windows to the left of our TV room. And with back light set at 41 the brightness should be VERY bright. Take a look at the advanced settings again and make sure all settings are as listed.

The back light visibly changes with the Energy switch used manually doesn't it?

Try these settings for both your DVD and Comcast box unless you already have, making sure you have all Advanced settings as shown. Something sounds amiss if the picture on the 550 isn't at least bright enough.

Let me know if they are ok on your DVD player (brand & model would help), and if they look signifcantly different then each other in brightness.

 

LG 42LD550 HDMI 1 ISF EXPERT 2 COOL 1-09-11 Usable Range.txt 1.4443359375k . file
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Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knew where we could find a break down of what exactly each picture setting does. For example, the "blur" setting under trumotion, I know it's supposed to reduce blur but I don't really notice an effect on the picture so I'm wondering if it has a purpose slightly different than what we suspect.
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Originally Posted by edward_moffet View Post

Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone knew where we could find a break down of what exactly each picture setting does. For example, the "blur" setting under trumotion, I know it's supposed to reduce blur but I don't really notice an effect on the picture so I'm wondering if it has a purpose slightly different than what we suspect.

Use the "Search Thread" option at the top of the page.

None of us owners have noticed little or no difference with Blur settings.

Judder seems to engage at 1 and increasing levels seem to do nothing.
post #1813 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

The back light visibly changes with the Energy switch used manually doesn't it?

Try these settings for both your DVD and Comcast box unless you already have, making sure you have all Advanced settings as shown. Something sounds amiss if the picture on the 550 isn't at least bright enough.

Let me know if they are ok on your DVD player (brand & model would help), and if they look signifcantly different then each other in brightness.


Yes, the backlight changes when the energy switch is used manually.

I just went in and adjusted all the settings to match your suggestions. I tried both the cable box and a DVD (Philips HTS3555). There's no significant difference between the two. "VERY bright" definitely doesn't describe the picture I'm seeing with either source.

Sounds like I have a bad set.
post #1814 of 5047
Been watching my tv now for a few days. I've been having issues with the stuttering as well. It still seems quite noticeable when watching netflix over the 360 (using component) but DVDs look great. Regular television for the most part looks good- hooked up to a cable box via composite, and the few channels i get on the antennae look good as well. It feels like certain channels when watching cable seem to stutter while others seem fine. Watched some of the football games today and they looked great, so im wondering if its more of a source issue?
post #1815 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

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***PACKERS***

The picture quality was superb!!!



Congratulations
post #1816 of 5047
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Originally Posted by downsideup View Post

Yes, the backlight changes when the energy switch is used manually.

I just went in and adjusted all the settings to match your suggestions. I tried both the cable box and a DVD (Philips HTS3555). There's no significant difference between the two. "VERY bright" definitely doesn't describe the picture I'm seeing with either source.

Sounds like I have a bad set.

What does the picture look like while using Vivid setting? I have the 52ld550 and before I adjusted it, Vivid is so bright it hurts my eyes watching it at night.
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Congratulations

Thanks. . . about the Packers thing.

It was a tough game on that frozen turf.
post #1818 of 5047
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

What does the picture look like while using Vivid setting? I have the 52ld550 and before I adjusted it, Vivid is so bright it hurts my eyes watching it at night.

The Vivid setting makes it brighter, but not enough to where it would hurt your eyes at night. The 520 I bought gets that bright, but not this 550. I think it has a backlight problem.
post #1819 of 5047
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Originally Posted by grobasch View Post
Been watching my tv now for a few days. I've been having issues with the stuttering as well. It still seems quite noticeable when watching netflix over the 360 (using component) but DVDs look great. Regular television for the most part looks good- hooked up to a cable box via composite, and the few channels i get on the antennae look good as well. It feels like certain channels when watching cable seem to stutter while others seem fine. Watched some of the football games today and they looked great, so im wondering if its more of a source issue?
The only place I get stuttering is on Netflix through my Blu-Ray player. I don't think Netflix uses the same process when encoding their shows. Some plays great HD/SD with good quality others look badly pixelated and stutters. fast action scenes has some problems on Netflix. Of course any Netflix in primetime tends to have problems. My basic cable gives me 7 digital HD stations (720P or 1080i) the rest are analog SD. The TV handles both SD/HD fine. but I find myself watching the HD channels a lot more than the others.
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downsideup, otto pylot, kaisek

I ordered the LG 47LD520 from Paul's TV through Amazon.com. It shipped from my local Paul's TV near Boston MA. (kaisek's TV was also from Paul's TV's.)

My new TV arrives Wednesday the 26th. And now I'm nervous about having the same stuttering issue as you guys. (Especially kaisek.) My in-puts will be as follows;


-Fios HDTV via HDMI
-Xbox 360 via VGA
-Blu-Ray player via HDMI (internet player w/ Netflix instant stream, youtube etc.)


If I understand your problems kaisek, you get the stuttering while playing DVD's or Netflix streaming through your 360; correct? Playing actuall games and everyting else was OK you said?

When my TV comes, I will test everything and post my findings. I will also post my software version.

I do not normally play DVD's or Netflix through my 360. I use my Blu-Ray player for that. So if DVD's and Netflix-streaming stutter through my 360 but not my Blu-Ray player then I'm good.

If I get ANY STUTTERING However; watching Fios HDTV, DVD's/Netlfix on my Blu-Ray, or video games on my 360, then this TV is getting sent back. That is unacceptable for such an expensive LG TV.

I was excited about getting my new TV but after reading this I'm nervous
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Originally Posted by kevdood83 View Post

downsideup, otto pylot, kaisek

I ordered the LG 47LD520 from Paul's TV through Amazon.com. It shipped from my local Paul's TV near Boston MA. (kaisek's TV was also from Paul's TV's.)

My new TV arrives Wednesday the 26th. And now I'm nervous about having the same stuttering issue as you guys. (Especially kaisek.) My in-puts will be as follows;


-Fios HDTV via HDMI
-Xbox 360 via VGA
-Blu-Ray player via HDMI (internet player w/ Netflix instant stream, youtube etc.)


If I understand your problems kaisek, you get the stuttering while playing DVD's or Netflix streaming through your 360; correct? Playing actuall games and everyting else was OK you said?

When my TV comes, I will test everything and post my findings. I will also post my software version.

I do not normally play DVD's or Netflix through my 360. I use my Blu-Ray player for that. So if DVD's and Netflix-streaming stutter through my 360 but not my Blu-Ray player then I'm good.

If I get ANY STUTTERING However; watching Fios HDTV, DVD's/Netlfix on my Blu-Ray, or video games on my 360, then this TV is getting sent back. That is unacceptable for such an expensive LG TV.

I was excited about getting my new TV but after reading this I'm nervous

I haven't seen any stuttering at all with my 520 and neither have some of the others so you may be ok. As with any manufacturer, there are going to be problem units from time to time, and a lot of folks who don't have tv issues never post anything.
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

I haven't seen any stuttering at all with my 520 and neither have some of the others so you may be ok. As with any manufacturer, there are going to be problem units from time to time, and a lot of folks who don't have tv issues never post anything.

I'm starting to think that the stutter problem is a problem with the newer firmware. I should have asked the LG tech that was over to downgrade my firmware from 03.05.07 to 03.05.04
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A kinda hearkening back to an earlier topic discussed in the forum which I am now unable to find via forum search or google:

There was talk about somehow "hacking" or enabling proper Chroma subsampling of 4:4:4 in either firmware or Service Menu. If memory serves me, Phase700B you had looked into this this back in October for the LD550/LD520 sets. Has anything ever become of this or are us non LD450 locked with 4:2:2?
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Originally Posted by DrLcMama0202 View Post

A kinda hearkening back to an earlier topic discussed in the forum which I am now unable to find via forum search or google:

There was talk about somehow "hacking" or enabling proper Chroma subsampling of 4:4:4 in either firmware or Service Menu. If memory serves me, Phase700B you had looked into this this back in October for the LD550/LD520 sets. Has anything ever become of this or are us non LD450 locked with 4:2:2?


You might find it easier to locate if you use the Search box located on the bar at the top of this thread. I believe that Phase also posted a link.
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Originally Posted by DrLcMama0202 View Post

A kinda hearkening back to an earlier topic discussed in the forum which I am now unable to find via forum search or google:

There was talk about somehow "hacking" or enabling proper Chroma subsampling of 4:4:4 in either firmware or Service Menu. If memory serves me, Phase700B you had looked into this this back in October for the LD550/LD520 sets. Has anything ever become of this or are us non LD450 locked with 4:2:2?

No hacks for chroma 4:4:4 unless you want to turn a 550 into a 450

But on that note, I've been trying a few spare remote controls I had around the house and now managed to enter the LG EZ-adjust menu. Previously, it was possible to do it though a tedious and clunky sequence involving too many ways to make mistakes in my opinion. All I've done so far is access it and look around a bit.
Also, it is possible to enter the "In/Start" menu option.

When and if it seems safe enough to provide a guide on how to use the EZ-Adjust I'll post the info. So far, it seems different than the LD 350 & 450 series, and the LH/LF series. My main interest is to enable or determine if DD 5.1 is usable on LD550 series via the optical audio output, when using HDMI with BD or DVD. My 42LD550 did this when I received it, I'm curious to see if firmware updates have changed that.
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Just one comment about stuttering, I haven't noticed any stuttering on my 42ld520 (3 weeks old, fw 03.05.04). I've connected an xbox via hdmi (used to be vga), which is used mainly for gaming, but also as a media center extender (was also watching the Packers win on this set yesterday, and it looked great).
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Originally Posted by Rico66 View Post

Just one comment about stuttering, I haven't noticed any stuttering on my 42ld520 (3 weeks old, fw 03.05.04). I've connected an xbox via hdmi (used to be vga), which is used mainly for gaming, but also as a media center extender (was also watching the Packers win on this set yesterday, and it looked great).

Thanks for contributing regarding the stuttering issue on some LD models. Their doesn't seem to be a firmware connection or build date connection.

It is puzzling though, that some TVs built in the same month have different firmware versions.
post #1828 of 5047
I've scanned through the thread and haven't seen any posts regarding banding on these models. I picked up a 32LD550 at Costco last week and have been happy otherwise.

Don't notice any picture uniformity issues with a medium or dark and mostly non solid picture; however, when the picture is lighter and mostly solid such as lots of blue sky or ocean or a hockey game (lots of white ice) then I notice a uniformity issue in bands where the color is slightly different, about a inch wide vertically in 4 or so different areas of the panel. The bands are most noticeable when the picture is panning left/right, and I find it very annoying.

I updated the firmware, but that had no effect.

The 32LD550 was very difficult to find at Costco. The store I bought from was about an hour away and they had one more left. 5-6 other stores closer had none.

Any suggestions ?
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Originally Posted by jr26385 View Post

I've scanned through the thread and haven't seen any posts regarding banding on these models. I picked up a 32LD550 at Costco last week and have been happy otherwise.

Don't notice any picture uniformity issues with a medium or dark and mostly non solid picture; however, when the picture is lighter and mostly solid such as lots of blue sky or ocean or a hockey game (lots of white ice) then I notice a uniformity issue in bands where the color is slightly different, about a inch wide vertically in 4 or so different areas of the panel. The bands are most noticeable when the picture is panning left/right, and I find it very annoying.

I updated the firmware, but that had no effect.

The 32LD550 was very difficult to find at Costco. The store I bought from was about an hour away and they had one more left. 5-6 other stores closer had none.

Any suggestions ?

No "banding issues" in the LD series have been reported on any of the larger screen sizes.

If you believe you have a problem return the TV and try another? Or go into the ISF Expert 1 setting and look at the IRE 100 field ( all white). Find the "Pattern" setting and set it to "Inner". If there is any problem it should show up.
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Originally Posted by kaisek View Post

I'm starting to think that the stutter problem is a problem with the newer firmware. I should have asked the LG tech that was over to downgrade my firmware from 03.05.07 to 03.05.04

Software versions are related to the serial numbers, at least that's what LG told me, so a higher version might not necessarily mean an upgraded version. Doesn't make sense to me but that's what I was told. Maybe the .04 version took care of the stutter problem in .07?
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