Official LG xxLD550 xxLD520 xxLD650 Owners Thread - Page 102

Originally Posted by pinzg35

thanks. i have tried csamos and like it but will try yours tonight. can i ask why it matter is you have one hdmi going to the tv from a receiver with things plugged into that compared to each device going into the tv separately? in the end, isn't the screen producing the PQ and not the device? just confused why you need an individual setting in your case.

thanks!

Originally Posted by csamos

In my case, I have all of my devices in both my living room (blu-ray player and DirecTV receiver) and theater (blu-ray player, DirecTV receiver, 2 DVD changers) plugged into an a/v receiver via HDMI so that the a/v receiver can process the uncompressed and 7.1 channel HD audio formats (at least in the blu-ray player's case). If you connect a blu-ray player directly to the TV via HDMI but then only use optical or coaxial digital cable to get the audio to a receiver, you will not be able to take advantage of any uncompressed or 7.1 channel HD audio formats.

Originally Posted by pinzg35

do some of the 520s not come with the IPS panel? i thought all LG 47ld520s did.

Originally Posted by pinzg35

csamos.

i understand this but my question is that phase700b has a different calibration for bluray, cable, etc and not just one like you calibrated. does the pq change if you have each device plugged into the tv directly rather then through a receiver like we have?

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot

They should be S-IPS but you need to do the "loupe test" (10x-20x magnifying lens and look for the chevron-shaped pixel pattern) just to be sure.

Originally Posted by pinzg35

csamos.

i understand this but my question is that phase700b has a different calibration for bluray, cable, etc and not just one like you calibrated. does the pq change if you have each device plugged into the tv directly rather then through a receiver like we have?

Originally Posted by csamos

A good a/v receiver will simply act as an HDMI switch and pass through the video untouched, unless you apply internal scaling (like in the case of my DVD changer output being scaled from 480i to 1080i by my receiver). As a test of my Pioneer's HDMI switching capability, I can easily plug my blu-ray player in directly, run another data sweep and compare the results, but I'm predicting they'll be identical within a small margin of error. Yet another test for me to do this weekend.

If all devices are running at the same resolution and color space, then one overall calibrated setting should be fine. But if you have for example a regular DVD player connected that outputs 480i/p in the 601 color space, it will definitely need its own calibrated settings, whether directly connected to the tv or passed through a receiver.

Originally Posted by pinzg35

can you do anything else to check? when i tap on it or run my fingers across i don't see much moment and the pq doesn't change in different viewing angles. although i did notice that when i look up at the tv while lying down (it's mounted above the fireplace) the pq doesn't change but the screen gets cloudy if that makes sense.

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot

That's pretty much it. A "W" in the product code, the tap or smear test (which is not all that reliable), and the pixel test. If you *really* need to know for sure (like I did ), then the loupe test is really the only way to determine it. A couple of cheap magnifying glasses in "series" should give you enough magnification. You probably do have an S-IPS panel, but.........

Even S-IPS panels have a limit to their off-angle viewing so laying down on the floor and looking up is probably pushing it, so that's why the blacks get grayer and the color softens up a bit (cloudy as you call it).

Originally Posted by Krista

Though I love my new 550, it just goes to show just how _good_ my Hyundai Imagequest Q321 was when I got it in 2006, that I eye the new one and think, "hmm, it's really not that much better" I had less off angle fade, I believe, on my hyundai, which is just plain weird. I might take that loupe to my old TV just for grins Of course, that same panel I'm told was sold as a Marantz, which was supposed to be pretty high brow.

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot

Were the current crop of IPS panels (e-IPS, S-IPS, and H-IPS) even made back then? I don't know. Would be interesting to see what the pixel shape is on a 5 year old tv

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot

That's pretty much it. A "W" in the product code, the tap or smear test (which is not all that reliable), and the pixel test. If you *really* need to know for sure (like I did ), then the loupe test is really the only way to determine it. A couple of cheap magnifying glasses in "series" should give you enough magnification. You probably do have an S-IPS panel, but.........

Even S-IPS panels have a limit to their off-angle viewing so laying down on the floor and looking up is probably pushing it, so that's why the blacks get grayer and the color softens up a bit (cloudy as you call it).

Originally Posted by pinzg35

i do have a "w" in the product code. sorry, but what's a 'chevron shape' for the loupe test?

seems like the side to side angles are great, it's just the up and down angels that push it!

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot

chevron shaped: <<<<<<< or >>>>>>>

yeah, I can sit up to about 5 feet either side of dead-center from about 8 - 10 feet away and pq is fine. If I lay down on the floor, it's not too bad but center line on my tv is only about 50 - 52" from the floor so it's not quite as high as a wall mounted tv (ours is on a media consol which is 34" high).

Originally Posted by Phase700B

Pretty much the same here Henry. Although NCIS this season seems to have chosen the "soft" or blurry camera settings (to soften lines on aging actors?).
Hawaii 5-0 is really over the top in color saturation as is CSI Miami (thee worst). As I mentioned before I am smack in the middle of two TV markets and for some reason the Madison stations are worse and induce a 4 to 5 second delay compared to Rockford stations. These same Madison stations seem to have more artifacts. Signal strength is about the same for all about the 75% to 90%. I would say ABC is the best also. Castle always looks great, but then Bones does too.

Originally Posted by illini1958

Hi all. Today I just recieved my new 47LD520 and upon set up I have a red line that runs from top to bottom just a little right of center. I'm guessing just 1 pixel wide but dosent matter what input or HDMI or component. Its on sat. and DVD player. Tried unplugging for awhile and nothing works. Ordered from B & H Photo and no return of T.V.'s over 37 inch. Anyone have this problem and is my only choice to use warrenty? If so, should I ask for a replacement now or have it fixed. Thanks for your time, I bought this model after reading this form.

Originally Posted by rhsjr25

Hey guys,

I've had my 42LD520 for about 2 weeks now. For some reason, sports just doesn't look that clear to me. I've tried Phaze's settings and don't get me wrong, when they show closeups it looks spectacular! The thing is when they show the wide(normal) view things seem like they can be clearer but I'm not sure. Could it be the hdmi cable that comcast gave me? I don't know. I still have 2 weeks to decide if I want to return it. Help!

Originally Posted by sheshechic

I tried to take pictures to show you how the different Dynamic Contrast settings look but the dern camera processes the image and makes them all look the same.

I need to find my cheapo camera.

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot

There you are. I was getting ready to call it a night cause everyone seems to have gone out and left me home alone

After reading the posts about the Dynamic Contrast, I set mine to Off (from Medium) and watched tv tonight. Everything looked great. In fact I'm watching Criminal Minds now and it looks awesome. One of the characters is really colorful (as in clothing) and the detail and definition is amazing. Seems to me that my tv is still breaking in a bit.

Originally Posted by csamos

I leave dynamic contrast off. I tend to turn off any kind of image processing stuff.

Originally Posted by pinzg35

hey csamos.

i have noticed that your calibrated settings seem to be a bit on the darker side when i am watching cable. i guess i am only comparing this to the preset settings the tv has but i like the brightness level of the 'standard' setting. i'm sure the settings you have are precise but wanted to get your thoughts.

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot

Why don't you take his settings as a baseline for your set and then tweak them to your taste? As has been pointed out, the various posted calibration settings may not be directly transferable to other sets, even the same model.

Originally Posted by csamos

I was going to say the same thing. Without being able to do a full-on calibration of your own set, use my or Phase's settings as a starting point and tweak things to your taste from there.

My settings have a much lower backlight level and a lower brightness level than any of the defaults, but on my set that produces a very nice gamma curve, decent black levels and enough light output for my room conditions (about 33 ftL).

Originally Posted by pinzg35

thanks for the input guys.

it does produce a good black level and the picture is bright enough but a little brighter picture is all i would like without changing much else. is there one setting i could change to get this? also, what do all the RGB settings effect? sorry for all the 'newb' questions=P

Originally Posted by Otto Pylot

I'll pass that question to csamos. It's bedtime for me