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Just wanted to let you guys know that I've done a little calibration of my own since I got my new PS3. The result? Well, let's just say I highly recommend giving it a shot

I used the AVS HD disc without any equipment, and I was able to not only adjust backlight, brightness and contrast, but also the colors in CMS thanks to our TVs' built-in color filters.

I even copied the same exact settings over to OTA, and it's never looked better. If anyone here wants to try the same method, let me know if you have any questions. It was very easy when I did it. I just followed the disc's pattern manual.

Would you mind posting your settings? I don't have Blu-ray so I can't use the disc. I just tweaked my OTA settings based on Phase's warm natural settings only I set the backlight to 35 and IRE 0 at all zeros. Looks really good to me but I'm always willing to give another setting a try

Otto, you gotta get yourself a cheap BR player, if just for doing your own calibration

You seem like the tinkering type!

I am the tinkering type, you ought to see my "McGyver" garage but until I'm done with my VHS ->DVD taping project, another player would not pass the Finance Committe Chairman (or shoud I say Chairwoman).

I know what you mean. My CFO was surprisingly cooperative when it came to my latest acquisition

I'm really happy with my current OTA cals after the changes I mentioned, it's just that if there's one more little tweak that would make it even better...... my wife is seriously thinking about having me committed or at the very least enrolling me in a CA (Calibrator's Anonymous) 12-step program

Otto: I didn't forget you. I've been away and I thought I had the settings in the laptop I took with me but I was wrong.

Remember I have a 52ld550

Picture Mode: Expert 1
Backlight: 62
Contrast: 92
Brightness: 46
H Sharpness: 60
V Sharpness: 55
Color: 59
Tint: 0
Dynamic contrast: Off
Noise reduction: Off
Digital Noise Reduction: Off
Black level: Low
Real Cinema: On
Color Gamut: RT709
Edge Enhancer: Off
Color Filter: Off
Color Temperature: Medium

Picture Mode: Cinema
Backlight: 61
Contrast: 92
Brightness: 46
Sharpness: 66
Color: 62
Tint: 0
Color Temp: 0
Dynamic contrast: Medium

I checked these against the movies: Hereafter (blu ray) & Seabiscuit.

I have a question about Seabiscuit. It's in the beginning, after the scene when the horses are running, and the guy is laying out by the campfire under the starry sky. What is the shot of the sky suppose to look like? Its bright from the right with wisps of clouds running from vertical center right to to the bottom near left edge. How bright should the right side be and how much contrast should there be between those wispy clouds and the sky?

How long did it take you and how many tries?

The AVS HD709 disc is really quick and easy for the basic settings. Removes the guess work.

Thanks, that's how I have it looking with the settings I posted. I was concerned that I'd made it too dark and that the lower clouds might have been intended to be a little more prominent, however anything less dark makes it look like the sun is too close to the moon on the right side of the screen. Prior to the adjustment almost 1/2 of the right side was bright, like the sun is just out of the camera range.

The results I achieved produce no halos and I'll double check the sharpness of the edge of the moon. Also, the bars are very nearly as black as the tv's frame, in a room with no ambient lighting, and produce no artifacts, black crush and maybe just a tad of white clip, but only in certain material - not in Seabiscuit or Hereafter.

I don't have a blu ray burner for the AVS HD 709 and I'll need to go buy some discs this weekend but I'm game to give it a try.

You don't need a blu-ray burner, just a regular DVD burner and a regular DVD. That's the cool thing about the AVS HD 709 disc. You burn it to a regular DVD, but it writes it with a blu-ray signature, so blu-ray players treat it as a blu-ray disc so you get HD patterns in the HD color space.

Damn! No one shows up for a few days, I'm feeling all alone , and now there's a flurry of posts and I can't keep up Feast or famine around here.....

Thanks for the cals. I'll compare them to what I'm using and see what's what. Mr. Phaser answered your question about the Seabiscuit scene. I still haven't got my copy of Seabiscuit back yet from my mom-in-law. Her nephew is in the movie (he's a real jockey) so she's still showing it to all of her friends

I didn't realize that. Wifey is going to Disneyland this weekend with her sister so it's just me, my son, a DVD burner, and the LG ALL TO MYSELF! Bwahahahah

Where's the link to the AVS 709 disk? Or more specifically, which one should I use for a standard DVD player with an HDMI connection?

Here you go Otto: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496

Hope you're having a good day. Spring has sprung here in VA.

You will need to get the 3rd download, provided your player can play MPEG-4 AVC or H.264 - thing is this format will be missing "menus and navigation features", which would make it a little difficult to use. I guess you'd have to rewind/fast forward until you found the pattern you want to work with.

The bluray format written to DVD requires a bluray player.

Otto, get a cheap bluray player already!

LOL @ Nick!

Otto, even though you can burn the AVS HD disc to a DVD you cannot play it back in a DVD player. Just a heads up...

Just realized that djams already said that

Thank you dear. It's rainy, windy, and cold here (well, cold based on West Coast standards). Work has been terrible today so I think I'm going to go home and kick the dog! Wait a minute, I can't do that......... he ran off after I hit him with the Wii remote..... what to do

I hear you all about the bluray! My birthday is in May so maybe I'll treat myself then. A treat for you all too because you won't have to listen to my "no bluray" whining anymore. Being as I'm basically going to have the house to myself this weekend maybe I'll do a marathon VHS->DVD binge and get the project done. Then.........

@phase: I've got a quite a few Fillmore posters that I took off of telephone polls in Berkeley and San Francisco somewhere so those would bring a pretty penny on eBay, but I don't think I can part with them. I've also got a stack of handbills that were passed out as we left the Fillmore! I still listen so my lp's every now and then when I want to hear the fullness and depth of music as opposed to this mp3 crap and I also wear my tie-dye from time to time. As far as the engraved bong goes, that was retired long ago....... but I promise I will get a bluray :-)

Brightness is always the easiest to dial in. I ended up at 51, because that is when 16 disappears for me. Contrast is a little trickier on our LCD TVs, because the brightening effect is deceiving. The disc tells you it needs to be set much higher (at least 90) than it really should be (83, in my case). This is to be expected with LCDs, though, because they're so bright.

Using the built-in filters for red, green and blue was interesting. As expected, blue was super easy to dial in, adjusting only blue, cyan and magenta in CMS. Green and red were much harder, because it's impossible to match them perfectly with gray. I would have had to max out red at +30 and dial down green to -30 to get close.

I ended up having a perfect match for blue (+7), with a slight increase in red (+8) and a decrease in green (-12). That way my blue matched gray, cyan and magenta, my green matched cyan and yellow (but not gray), and my red matched magenta only. Nothing was oversaturated either.

Since I did not touch luminance at all (2 or 10 point), I'm sure my grayscale is not very accurate. It did look balanced, though, with no red or blue tint, as far as I could tell.

Here are the things I left untouched (at ISF Expert defaults):

Sharpness, Color, Tint, all luminance settings, all CMS tint settings.

Backlight is now at 20 for nighttime and 40 for daytime with lots of light.


I'm assuming that there is no way to match all three primary colors perfectly with gray as well as all three secondary colors. It seems that you always have to find a compromise, and the AVS HD manual suggests to calibrate for blue first and foremost. I think this is the best I can do without meters

I guess you shouldn't look at the current weather here in Austin then...

Otto: Don't buy the LG 570 or this year's LG blu ray players. They have problems with playing blu rays.

Sony and Panasonic seem to be doing well. The Panasonic 110 seems nice and I can vouch for the 210.

I second that, unfortunately. After swapping a BD570 with nothing but skipping issues at 24Hz for a PS3, I couldn't be happier. The DVD upscaling is also much better with the PS3.

It's very nice to know for someone who just can't leave things alone

But I also know it's still far from perfect, so I'll keep messing with it.

Oh and Nick,

Throw in a little Led Zep and I'm right there with ya