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post #4111 of 5047
Yup... you were right. Mfg date October 2010

Watched Deathly hallows last night... looking good. Haven't had a chance to do my amateur calibration yet, so I watched it in "vivid" mode fir the most part. Don't usually like that kind of bright display, but damn, vivid is a good description.
post #4112 of 5047
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Originally Posted by vizionblind View Post

hi all, I have a LG 42LD520 and suffer from the 4:4:4 issue with the latest 11.4 catalyst preview drivers on an ati 5850. what can I do to resolve this?

You need to learn how to use the "Search Thread" option at the top right of each page. Asking the same questions in 2 or 3 different threads, or starting a new thread just for some question you don't want to take the time to find yourself is going to only find you "deaf ears". If you would take the time for due diligence before you make a purchase you would find the xxLD450 is more suited to doing 4:4:4. If this sounds harsh, well, you've been on AVS long enough. Share some info instead of just being a resource sponge.

You could try rolling back your Catalyst driver to 9.x and see if that helps, but the 120HZ LGs actually won't do 4:4:4 very well. Also, you could try going to the XXLD450 60Hz thread where more people are interested in PC use. The XXLD450 series is known as a top notch 4:4:4 performer. In some cases, you may need to change the EDID in the driver. There are many such tricks and advice in the XXLD450 thread.

If your set is new, you may wish to exchange for a 450 model if your use is mainly for PC monitor use. I have a 42LD550 and it will not do 4:4:4 very well with my ATI 5450, but I only use it as a TV with my HP s5560f HTPC.
post #4113 of 5047
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Originally Posted by elgibby View Post

So no one here with a Netcast TV is using mlb.tv ?

I had it for about a day and then dropped it when I discovered what their blackout policy entailed so I never really watched it. I forget what your issue is but could you watch it via another source (pc maybe?) to see if the problem still exists? Sorry, I'm not much help but my coffee hasn't kicked in yet.
post #4114 of 5047
I had my meter on my TV yesterday and noticed some strange behavior when switching between picture modes.

My original intent was to develop daytime calibration. Since I have a very bright room during the day, I was going to start with 65ftL light output at 100IRE and see how it looked. After adjusting the the basic controls to obtain this target, I got curious about the 100IRE light output of the Vivid and Sport preset, so I switched over and measured them (Sport measured brightest at 118ftL). Anyways, when I switched back to ISF Expert2 to continue, I was no longer at 65ftL @100IRE - it was much higher. I continued taking measurements and noted that the light output was dropping slowly with each reading. After 2-3 minutes it finally settled back down to the original 65ftL I had before switching a super-bright picture mode. I repeated this process many times with the same result. I found that the only way to get ISF Expert2 to immediately 'recover' from viewing an extremely bright picture mode was to cycle the power on the TV.

So, my conclusion is that my 47LD520 can't make an immediate change between picture settings that are drastically different from one another. I am wondering if this indicates something is wrong with my set, or is normal LCD behavior, or is common behavior amongst the LG LD series.

I would really appreciate it if someone else with a meter (Phase ) would try this and let me know if you see the same results.
post #4115 of 5047
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So, my conclusion is that my 47LD520 can't make an immediate change between picture settings that are drastically different from one another. I am wondering if this indicates something is wrong with my set, or is normal LCD behavior, or is common behavior amongst the LG LD series.

That is very interesting. For us, the daytime lighting in our family room is always indirect so the lighting stays constant until the evening. I guess we're lucky in that respect because I use the same calibration settings and just adjust as needed with the eco feature. I never use the Vivid or Standard preset so I switched back and forth between the two and my "normal" calibation setting. There did seem to be a very short lag before the picture would adjust to its new settings but that only took about 2 seconds. However, my settings may not be different enough to exhibit what you're describing.
post #4116 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

So, my conclusion is that my 47LD520 can't make an immediate change between picture settings that are drastically different from one another. I am wondering if this indicates something is wrong with my set, or is normal LCD behavior, or is common behavior amongst the LG LD series.

I would really appreciate it if someone else with a meter (Phase ) would try this and let me know if you see the same results.

This seems to be "normal". I notice it right away when changing to any presets. It is as though the back light and/or bright-contrast circuitry has a slow dimming effect. I thought mine only did it if one of the presets had "Dynamic Contrast" on though. Is that the case with your preset settings?
post #4117 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

This seems to be "normal". I notice it right away when changing to any presets. It is as though the back light and/or bright-contrast circuitry has a slow dimming effect. I thought mine only did it if one of the presets had "Dynamic Contrast" on though. Is that the case with your preset settings?

Thanks. Sport mode definitely has dynamic contrast on. I have noticed the brief 2-3 second adjustment cycles as Otto mentioned above. But the 2-3 minute duration really surprised me. I will try this again with Dynamic Contrast off in Sport mode and see if the change is immediate and report back. Probably won't get to it tonight...
post #4118 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

Thanks. Sport mode definitely has dynamic contrast on. I have noticed the brief 2-3 second adjustment cycles as Otto mentioned above. But the 2-3 minute duration really surprised me. I will try this again with Dynamic Contrast off in Sport mode and see if the change is immediate and report back. Probably won't get to it tonight...

Dynamic contrast was a good call. I haven't used that for quite some time and hadn't even thought about it.
post #4119 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

This seems to be "normal". I notice it right away when changing to any presets. It is as though the back light and/or bright-contrast circuitry has a slow dimming effect. I thought mine only did it if one of the presets had "Dynamic Contrast" on though. Is that the case with your preset settings?

I've also noticed that it can take a few seconds to adjust from one preset to another. It seems to me like it is the backlight ramping up or down.
post #4120 of 5047
Just checking in to see if anyone is here
post #4121 of 5047
I'm here!
post #4122 of 5047
Present and accounted for...
post #4123 of 5047
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Hello Otto and friends. Here and enjoying the 42LD550. Since I got my LG, I ;ve also gone over my 4 year old Mitsubishi LT-46231 and have it looking better than ever. A few months back I discovered how to get into the limited service menu on it to correct the Low and High white balance. Low was to yellow/green, and High was blue. Withe the help of my i1 Display 2 and talso the AVS HD 709 I now have the 'ol Mits looking better than new! Very close to the color gamut of the LG. . . but 46"!

Lately, I've been playing with my HP s5560f HTPC with ATI HD5450 graphics card. I haven't even scratched the surface of using the HTPC. It has a 1TB HDD and a quad core AMD processor and I've only used it mainly for HuLu to watch past TV episodes or recent ones I've missed. On my Mits I have two IEEE 1394 AVC HDDs (RCA Scenium DVR2160), so I can also record all my OTA HD programs if I am not home or time shift at our leisure. Also, trying to get things firmed up on the lower level construction plans. I really want a home studio down there for all my vintage audio/video equipment; plus a dedicated home theater area.

Well, suppers on a bit late and NCIS tonight!
post #4124 of 5047
I'm glad to see everyone is well and fine. I think I must be going thru "separation anxiety" now that most of us are done calibrating (for now) and have nothing to report.

I may check my cals again once I hit 1000 hours to see if there has been any shift. Still haven't got off my butt to get the Blu-ray Seabiscuit so that little project is still on.

Speaking of media rooms (Phase), our family room furniture finally arrived a week or so ago (first time with top grain leather) and it's a good thing that leather cleans up so well, cause using the electric recliner on the couch and watching the LG has, well, been an exciting experience
post #4125 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

Speaking of media rooms (Phase), our family room furniture finally arrived a week or so ago (first time with top grain leather) and it's a good thing that leather cleans up so well, cause using the electric recliner on the couch and watching the LG has, well, been an exciting experience

Ahh. . . top grain leather. . . in a recliner. . . you'll never go back to fabric!

I've had mine for about 6 years now and it's just starting to get that "old leather" patina. I suggest some "Leather Master" cleaner and protector. Stuff is made in Italy and used on fine furniture and Lamborgini seats. Available at Autogeeks online. This is off topic isn't it! Well, not much goin' on right now anyway.
post #4126 of 5047
I want top grain leather.

Hubby says he doesn't like it, that it will make him sweat and stick.

We're building new kitchen cabinets, will tile after than and then the new furniture... I smell real leather in my future.
post #4127 of 5047
I haven't touch the settings on my tv and it seems like the picture is still getting better, or else I did a really bang up job on the first try. My blacks look amazing.
post #4128 of 5047
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I want top grain leather.

Hubby says he doesn't like it, that it will make him sweat and stick.

We're building new kitchen cabinets, will tile after than and then the new furniture... I smell real leather in my future.

Staying totally off topic, I was against leather at first as well but it seems to adjust nicely to your body temp, and with one of the electric recliner ends dead center to the LG, oh my!

Glad to see you check in. I guess the gangs all still here
post #4129 of 5047
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Present and accounted for...

hey djams.

was finally able to watch a bluray with your settings and i like=) sounds like the true test is to watch sea biscuit for some reason? i watched the movie "tangled" (which was pretty good i must say) and wallstreet and the pq looked good. have you made any other adjustments since?
post #4130 of 5047
Seabiscuit Blu-ray at Amazon only $9.99:

http://www.amazon.com/Seabiscuit-Blu...319659&sr=1-34

post #4131 of 5047
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Originally Posted by VBB View Post

Seabiscuit Blu-ray at Amazon only $9.99:

http://www.amazon.com/Seabiscuit-Blu...319659&sr=1-34


Thanks Henry. I just may do that if I can't find it locally. I'm taking Friday off so I'll put that on my to do list.
post #4132 of 5047
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Seabiscuit Blu-ray at Amazon only $9.99:

http://www.amazon.com/Seabiscuit-Blu...319659&sr=1-34


i'm sure this has been answered...but why seabiscuit?=)
post #4133 of 5047
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i'm sure this has been answered...but why seabiscuit?=)

Phase did a very nice, and helpful, scene by scene (well almost) description of what you should see as far as color, shading, detail, etc if your set is calibrated correctly. Apparently it is one of the better made movies of recent memory that was filmed about as good as it gets without any digital tom-foolery.
post #4134 of 5047
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i'm sure this has been answered...but why seabiscuit?=)

Read Posts # 1&2 the Sea Biscuit Guide is also there. Sea Biscuit has both B&W still photos at the beginning to check gray scale, plus it has some of the best, natural cinematography of recent times. The listed scenes can help with some final tweaking after using the AVS HD709 disc for an "eyeball" calibration.
post #4135 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Ahh. . . top grain leather. . . in a recliner. . . you'll never go back to fabric!

I've had mine for about 6 years now and it's just starting to get that "old leather" patina. I suggest some "Leather Master" cleaner and protector. Stuff is made in Italy and used on fine furniture and Lamborgini seats. Available at Autogeeks online. This is off topic isn't it! Well, not much goin' on right now anyway.

I think that proper care and maintenance of furniture used while viewing the xxLD5xx series TV is not that far off-topic
post #4136 of 5047
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Originally Posted by sheshechic View Post

I want top grain leather.

Hubby says he doesn't like it, that it will make him sweat and stick.

We're building new kitchen cabinets, will tile after than and then the new furniture... I smell real leather in my future.

There sheshe is! This place isn't the same without you.

Tell hubby that he's thinking of 'pleather', not leather. Leather is awesome
post #4137 of 5047
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Originally Posted by pinzg35 View Post

hey djams.

was finally able to watch a bluray with your settings and i like=) sounds like the true test is to watch sea biscuit for some reason? i watched the movie "tangled" (which was pretty good i must say) and wallstreet and the pq looked good. have you made any other adjustments since?

Thanks for the feedback - you're the only person that's commented on the settings so far. It's good to hear they are working for you.

I have not made any changes to those settings. I am currently working on daytime settings that will be much brighter - I'm having a harder time getting everything nailed down with the brighter basic settings. I will post them when I'm done if anyone is interested.
post #4138 of 5047
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Originally Posted by pinzg35 View Post

i'm sure this has been answered...but why seabiscuit?=)

It doesn't have to be Seabiscuit - there are plenty of "reference quality bluray discs" - if you google the quoted text, you will find lists of them.

But as others have pointed out, in the case of Seabiscuit, Phase has put his expertise and years of experience into documenting specific scenes that present challenging situations which will expose defficiencies in your settings. That's what makes Seabiscuit especially useful for me. (as a bonus, it's a good movie!)
post #4139 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

Thanks for the feedback - you're the only person that's commented on the settings so far. It's good to hear they are working for you.

I have not made any changes to those settings. I am currently working on daytime settings that will be much brighter - I'm having a harder time getting everything nailed down with the brighter basic settings. I will post them when I'm done if anyone is interested.

yeah, i like your settings and carl's are not bad either. as people say, the pq seems to be getting better and better each time i turn the set on.

curious to see what you get for a brighter picture as i prefer brighter at day and night=)
post #4140 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

It doesn't have to be Seabiscuit - there are plenty of "reference quality bluray discs" - if you google the quoted text, you will find lists of them.

But as others have pointed out, in the case of Seabiscuit, Phase has put his expertise and years of experience into documenting specific scenes that present challenging situations which will expose defficiencies in your settings. That's what makes Seabiscuit especially useful for me. (as a bonus, it's a good movie!)

good to know. i'll have to put this in our que=)
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