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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

To make sure you can get the advantages of all sound formats for Blu-ray, you would want connect the BD player to the Yamaha AVR, and then from there to the TV. Any other signal source doesn't matter too much. But you can try it both ways. You should be able to pass through Dolby Digital 5.1 from all signal sources connected to the TV and connect the Digital Optical output to the Yamaha and still get at least DD 5.1. Video quality/issues may be better this way with less chance of processing errors if input devices are connected first to the TV. Basically, if you are satisfied with DD 5.1 connect everything to the TV first for best video.

Thanks for suggestions.
I'm not planning to get blue ray...So far connected everything to Yamaha, but I'll need preamp for my turntable.
I don't have cable TV, cable I have is just for the net, but if I plug cable to TV, I get basic non-cable channels in HD, picture is amazing on 550 LG LCD, can't even imagine, what I can get better after calibration...
Either I miss something or LG 550 LCD doesn't support Audio Return thru HDMI from Yamaha HDMI-out, I had to use optical audio cable to get sound from TV.

Thanks again,

GB
post #4232 of 5047
@djams

I went ahead and reset Expert 2 OTA and plugged in all of your settings with no mods of my own. I've been watching it for a couple of hours now, late afternoon with diffuse natural light to night time with just my ambient on. Eco has been off the entire time. The red push I saw yesterday seems to have evened out a bit with the IREs back in. I'll keep it like this for a week and then hopefully I can do the horsey test. My initial impression is that the IREs are necessary to "balance" out the CMS which I guess would make sense.
post #4233 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

@djams

I went ahead and reset Expert 2 OTA and plugged in all of your settings with no mods of my own. I've been watching it for a couple of hours now, late afternoon with diffuse natural light to night time with just my ambient on. Eco has been off the entire time. The red push I saw yesterday seems to have evened out a bit with the IREs back in. I'll keep it like this for a week and then hopefully I can do the horsey test. My initial impression is that the IREs are necessary to "balance" out the CMS which I guess would make sense.

I was hoping the "red problem" would diminish with the IRE settings entered. One of the problems I had before calibrating grayscale was neon reds.

Based on Phase's very experienced comments, I am a bit concerned that these settings developed using HDMI input would not be appropriate for OTA. But you can be the judge on that. It will be interesting to see if you notice significant difference in picture quality between OTA and bluray with these settings in place.

Oh - and regarding "white balance"; this is the IRE settings. I usually refer to this as grayscale - the terms are interchangeable.
post #4234 of 5047
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csamos said he was going to check out the effect of different gamma settings and report his findings - but he seems to have abandoned us. Carl, are you out there?
Hey everyone. Sorry I disappeared there for quite a while. I just got crazy busy with work, then had strep, then had to catch up, etc.

So what'd I miss?

post #4235 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

I was hoping the "red problem" would diminish with the IRE settings entered. One of the problems I had before calibrating grayscale was neon reds.

Based on Phase's very experienced comments, I am a bit concerned that these settings developed using HDMI input would not be appropriate for OTA. But you can be the judge on that. It will be interesting to see if you notice significant difference in picture quality between OTA and bluray with these settings in place.

Oh - and regarding "white balance"; this is the IRE settings. I usually refer to this as grayscale - the terms are interchangeable.

The settings don't look bad but yeah, HDMI responds differently than OTA in terms of calibrating but we knew that. Phase's OTA cals have been really helpful. It may come down to my own cals for the basics and then using either Phase's OTA cal or yours because I can't do IRE calibration and it appears that you really need to have that in place with it's corresponding CMS cals. I'm out of town now for the next couple of nights so I can't play with my LG until Sunday. However, I can not believe how spoiled I am now that I have no choice but to watch a Chimei tv (?) in the Embassy Suites for the next couple of nights. Once I get home Saturday night, I'll kiss my wife first and then hug the LG, probably in that order unless I see the tv first
post #4236 of 5047
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Originally Posted by csamos View Post

Hey everyone. Sorry I disappeared there for quite a while. I just got crazy busy with work, then had strep, then had to catch up, etc.

So what'd I miss?


Uhhhh, Phase ran away with sheshechic and djams and I have our own FaceBook page now Other than that, nothing much

Sorry to hear you had strep Just take it easy.
post #4237 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

Yes. I found the 'bright' settings to be a bit too much in a dimly lit room. After watching for about an hour I started to feel eye strain (seabiscuit not required, just too bright overall)

hey djams.

i like your new settings! i can tell that they are brighter and notice the same as you when i switch from this setting to your original setting the tv does take a little time to completely change over. have you found out why the set takes so long?

i'm going to watch seabiscuit tonight (for the first time) and will see how the pq is with your new settings as i was looking for a 'brighter' setting. will report back!
post #4238 of 5047
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Originally Posted by csamos View Post

Hey everyone. Sorry I disappeared there for quite a while. I just got crazy busy with work, then had strep, then had to catch up, etc.

So what'd I miss?


Hey csamos - good to hear from you again!

I've been pretty busy myself lately - but no strep (ouch). Glad you've got that behind you.

Main thing you 'missed' is that is gotten pretty slow here. To be expected I guess, since our sets are not readily available anymore.

I keep waiting for some of the LK series owners to show up here, because the "official owners" thread for the new LK series is... well, pretty pathetic. Not being tended to by the thread starter like Phase did for this thread.

Anyways, glad you're back!
post #4239 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

The settings don't look bad but yeah, HDMI responds differently than OTA in terms of calibrating but we knew that. Phase's OTA cals have been really helpful. It may come down to my own cals for the basics and then using either Phase's OTA cal or yours because I can't do IRE calibration and it appears that you really need to have that in place with it's corresponding CMS cals. I'm out of town now for the next couple of nights so I can't play with my LG until Sunday. However, I can not believe how spoiled I am now that I have no choice but to watch a Chimei tv (?) in the Embassy Suites for the next couple of nights. Once I get home Saturday night, I'll kiss my wife first and then hug the LG, probably in that order unless I see the tv first

Hope you made it back to the nest safely, Otto!

ChiMei - never heard of it, but it turns out that they are the "world's #2, and Taiwan's #1 maker of TFT-LCD displays" according to Wikipedia. I went to their website and found this entertaining description of their "L series" TV:
The most degraded colors visualize the form of happiness
While the most captivating stun realizesan extravagancy of happiness


So were you "extravagantly happy" while watching the "degraded colors" on the chimei in your hotel room? I love mis-translations....
post #4240 of 5047
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Originally Posted by pinzg35 View Post

hey djams.

i like your new settings! i can tell that they are brighter and notice the same as you when i switch from this setting to your original setting the tv does take a little time to completely change over. have you found out why the set takes so long?

i'm going to watch seabiscuit tonight (for the first time) and will see how the pq is with your new settings as i was looking for a 'brighter' setting. will report back!

I am glad the settings worked out for you. Apparently our sets are similar.

How did the Seabiscuit reference material check out?

Edit: I have not determined why it takes so long to completely change between picture modes. When I have time, I plan to collect some data and maybe pose the question in the Display Calibration thread. Perhaps some of the experienced calibrators there will have some thoughts or experience with this.
post #4241 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post



So were you "extravagantly happy" while watching the "degraded colors" on the chimei in your hotel room? I love mis-translations....

Does "pq sucks" qualify for "extravagantly happy"? Didn't think so. I did notice that some of the rooms had LGs but I never got a chance to see which ones they were

I've really only had one evening to check out your cals on my LG. I'll report back later this week and let you know it looks after a week of "eyeball" adjustment. If all looks well, then then I will set aside some time for the horsey test. I did watch a bit of the Giants/Rockies game last night and it looked most excellent so it is looking hopeful.
post #4242 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

I keep waiting for some of the LK series owners to show up here, because the "official owners" thread for the new LK series is... well, pretty pathetic.


I'm waiting for some reviews and more people to get a LK series as well. The one disappointing thing is it seems like only the 530 has netcast/smart TV and that set seems almost nonexistent.
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The free 3D Avatar disk arrived today. Free because I bought the Panasonic 210 Blu-ray player. I don't care about 3D but it should be a decent disk to check my 47LD520 for just Blu-ray playback and my calibrations. I still hope to get to Seabiscuit but that will be a more intense viewing with Phase's "scenes to watch for". Besides, I wanted to post something to keep the thread alive now that most of us are done calibrating and there doesn't seem to be anyone with questions about our sets. I agree with dirtyb about the LK series. It would be nice if there was more info on how that series looks in comparison to ours but maybe it will pick up.
post #4244 of 5047
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Originally Posted by dirtyb View Post

I'm waiting for some reviews and more people to get a LK series as well. The one disappointing thing is it seems like only the 530 has netcast/smart TV and that set seems almost nonexistent.

Regarding the network widgets. The general consensus in this thread is that it's best to have the net apps on a 'secondary' device (i.e. - roku, boxee, wd live, bluray player, etc). Then, if/when the applications become outdated you are not faced with replacing your expensive TV just to get the new network stuff. Also, the dedicated streaming boxes will have a much more vested interest in keeping software updated and adding new stuff.

Just food for thought...
post #4245 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

The free 3D Avatar disk arrived today. Free because I bought the Panasonic 210 Blu-ray player. I don't care about 3D but it should be a decent disk to check my 47LD520 for just Blu-ray playback and my calibrations. I still hope to get to Seabiscuit but that will be a more intense viewing with Phase's "scenes to watch for". Besides, I wanted to post something to keep the thread alive now that most of us are done calibrating and there doesn't seem to be anyone with questions about our sets. I agree with dirtyb about the LK series. It would be nice if there was more info on how that series looks in comparison to ours but maybe it will pick up.

Don't know if you're aware, but that disc is worth some serious coin! I looked on ebay and they are going for over a hundred bucks (quick ship, in unopened package).

You might want to sell that thing and go out and buy Avatar on plain ol' bluray.

That was a pretty good freebie to get with your new bluray player.
post #4246 of 5047
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Originally Posted by djams View Post

Don't know if you're aware, but that disc is worth some serious coin! I looked on ebay and they are going for over a hundred bucks (quick ship, in unopened package).

You might want to sell that thing and go out and buy Avatar on plain ol' bluray.

That was a pretty good freebie to get with your new bluray player.

Seriously? I opened it up last night I wonder what it's going for used? Anyway, it's a pretty lame movie. Dancing with Wolves vs Star Wars at Jurassic Park. However, there is a lot of detail with closeups and action. TruMotion off, Real Cinema on. The LG looked spectacular with it's current calibration settings (djams' CMS and IREs matched well with my basics). Colors were bright when they were supposed to be and muted when not. No push or "fluorescence". Action was smooth and the detail was exceptional. I almost wished I could have seen this in 3D. Waterfall scenes with detail thru the mist was really nice. So, the final test will be Seabiscuit with my notes of what to look for and where.

@dirtyb - I agree with djams on having netapps or whatever on a separate box. That's what I did and am glad I did it. I have an ATV2 (Christmas gift) and the Panasonic 210 Blu-ray has netapps as well (a bit of an overkill but I coudn't get the specs I wanted without it). It's a lot cheaper to replace a $150 Blu-ray player if more features become available than replace the tv. Besides, the chipsets and feature sets are usually more robutst than what comes integrated.
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Anyway, it's a pretty lame movie. Dancing with Wolves vs Star Wars at Jurassic Park.

Haha - I enjoyed the movie, but I like your analogy (a lot). You left one out though - ferngully
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@bstarfish - you and I live very close to each other. You have the same tv as I do. I would like to get my meter on another set to get more info on this very slow picture mode changing issue. If you're interested, I'll make a trip over your way and calibrate your white balance and cms for your bluray hdmi input while I'm there.

PM me if you're interested (also reply in the thread, because I don't always log in when I visit the site)
post #4249 of 5047
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Haha - I enjoyed the movie, but I like your analogy (a lot). You left one out though - ferngully

Fern Gully I'd forgotten about that one! Know anyone who wants to buy the Avatar Special Edition 2D-3D Blu-ray?

If you and your meter are anywhere near San Jose........
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Just trying to keep the love alive
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Thread Starter 
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Just trying to keep the love alive

Hello Otto! Well, rainy night here and wife is working late.

So I've settled back with a Lienie's Classic Amber and listening to some. . . are you ready. . . INXS.

"Listen Like Thieves" on LP played on my Dual 1229Q with ADC ST XLM MK II. All that means is that it sounds exceedingly excellent!

So, what are you up to? Maybe I'll hang here a bit and see if anyone pops in!
post #4252 of 5047
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Hello Otto! Well, rainy night here and wife is working late.

So I've settled back with a Lienie's Classic Amber and listening to some. . . are you ready. . . INXS.

"Listen Like Thieves" on LP played on my Dual 1229Q with ADC ST XLM MK II. All that means is that it sounds exceedingly excellent!

So, what are you up to? Maybe I'll hang here a bit and see if anyone pops in!

Howdy do! Just got home from work and thought I'd check in to see if I caught any fish with my bait. Lo and behold, I caught a big one

Hmmm, Lienie's Classic Amber sounds good. Don't think we can get that on the West Coast. I have a couple of Mirror Ponds gettin' cold.

Someone just got a 42LK520 and posted a "what do I do" question so we'll see what kind of user he is and what questions he has. I'm thinkin' his LG will be close to mine but I haven't educated myself on the 2011 LGs so maybe not.

INXS? Way to cool for an old dewd I'll check in later on.
post #4253 of 5047
Well I finally made it back! In truth I've been back for a couple of weeks but busy with 'stuff.' Originally I was slated to be gone for just 28 days on the 'Mission Critical deployment,' but two weeks in I was asked to extend for several weeks. Long grueling days beginning at 0330 hours and ending anywhere from 1430 to 1730 hours. Now I sound like Dorothy in 'Wizard of Oz'...."There's no place like home, there's no place like home!"

One of the reasons for that gratitude of course is the new 47LD520 appears to be breaking in very nicely. The PQ is better than I recall it being before I left. The set is about 11 weeks old with just under 4 weeks of use. And somehow there are now a slew of HD channels that have added themselves to original automatic channel programming. I am thinking they may be OTA channels but several display "Cable DTV HD" when I check "INFO" on the remote. Some of these channels are nothing I would ever want to watch but a couple have decent shows.

And with the phat per diem check I may pick up a LG Blu-Ray player....there's a BD630 at BB for $109.....
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@ VBB
thanks for your help with the ps3 settings
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Well I finally made it back! In truth I've been back for a couple of weeks but busy with 'stuff.' Originally I was slated to be gone for just 28 days on the 'Mission Critical deployment,' but two weeks in I was asked to extend for several weeks. . . .

One of the reasons for that gratitude of course is the new 47LD520 appears to be breaking in very nicely. The PQ is better than I recall it being before I left.

And with the phat per diem check I may pick up a LG Blu-Ray player....there's a BD630 at BB for $109.....

Glad to see you made it back and were successful. When the President came on TV at 11:30 at night I was wondering if. . . "someone". . . maybe . . . had a part in it. 'Nuff said!

Glad to hear the LG is doing fine! Time for that Tripp-Lite Power Conditioner too? Yup. . . just me looking out for you and your electronics!
Things are a bit quiet here lately, but I'm sure Otto will appreciate any dialog.

Also, many have downloaded the AVS HD709 calibration Blu-ray media and have used it to fine tune TV settings. And, there is a "Sea Biscuit" reference Movie Guide in Post #2 you can use as a follow up to check and verify results of TV settings.

http:
//www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=948496


You may want to review the thread pages since you left and see what all has transpired if you haven't already! Thanks for your efforts to secure the country. Salute!
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And with the phat per diem check I may pick up a LG Blu-Ray player....there's a BD630 at BB for $109.....

Welcome back my "over the hill" friend. And for those of you who don't know, he actually lives over the hill from me! No reference to age intended

I finally bought a Blu-Ray player as well. The Panasonic 210. It's more than I need (2D-3D) but it has built-in WiFi (no dongle) that works well, upconversion is really nice, and it plays very well with the 47LD520. And it was only 150 at Fry's with a little haggling. I also got a free Avatar 2D-3D disk that I played the other night. My review is a few posts back. However, I hear it is a hot deal on eBay so if anyone wants to buy a once-only played Avatar Special Edition 2D-3D disk, let me know.

Glad you're back. And thank you. Seriously, thank you.
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@CrossFit1 - welcome home, friend!
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Phase, Otto, and djams,

Thank you for the warm welcome, y'all are too kind! I do work for all y'all tax payers but I personally had no direct role in any events related to the specific announcement by the POTUS. Funny coincidence however, just before posting here last night I had a meeting with a couple senior Command Staff personnel - they hinted at placement within a MSC (Mission Support Center - rapidly forward deployed to provide logistic & technical support and reachback capability).

Hey, what ever happened to those quarter eating life insurance vending machines in airports?!

Nic, at your recommendation I bought a TrippLite (eBay) prior to my last deployment and had the TV and DVD running through it while I was away. It's nice to be able to flip a single switch and know that no current is going to the electronics. I also love the convenience of having a single power cord from the TV cart to the wall. Great purchase, thanks for that tip!

Otto, I don't need 3D capability, hate having to juggle two remotes and don't want to buy a universal....yet. When I go for the full audio set up I'm sure I will though. That's why I'm leaning toward the LG BD player.
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Otto, I don't need 3D capability, hate having to juggle two remotes and don't want to buy a universal....yet. When I go for the full audio set up I'm sure I will though. That's why I'm leaning toward the LG BD player.
I don't need 3D either but we seem to buy electronics with extra features that we won't use. I was leaning towards the BD for the very reason you mentioned, but the Panny was a good deal. I use my Harmony 880 and it works well for basic features, on both the tv and the Blu-Ray. However, it doesn't seem to play well with the ATV2.
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@bstarfish - you and I live very close to each other. You have the same tv as I do. I would like to get my meter on another set to get more info on this very slow picture mode changing issue. If you're interested, I'll make a trip over your way and calibrate your white balance and cms for your bluray hdmi input while I'm there.

PM me if you're interested (also reply in the thread, because I don't always log in when I visit the site)

Sure, I'd love for you to see how everything is set up and calibrate things!

PM also sent.
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