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post #4711 of 5070
Question for Phase700B

I'm trying out one of your setting and I seem to like it. file named "Djams 47LD520 TXT BRITE DAYTIME"

Question I have is, you have the Luminance set at 100 and IRE set at 233, but when I try to set them at the values you stated, I can't set them. The IRE only goes from 10-100. Im guessing this is a typo and it should be Luminance set at 233 and IRE set at 100.
post #4712 of 5070
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Originally Posted by shook187 View Post

Question for Phase700B

I'm trying out one of your setting and I seem to like it. file named "Djams 47LD520 TXT BRITE DAYTIME"

Question I have is, you have the Luminance set at 100 and IRE set at 233, but when I try to set them at the values you stated, I can't set them. The IRE only goes from 10-100. Im guessing this is a typo and it should be Luminance set at 233 and IRE set at 100.

Yes the Luminance is 233. It's just a starting point if using a coilorimeter. But you don't "set" the IRE to 100. . . IRE 100 just happens to be the first IRE level to enter it;s setting values.

Then you start entering in the IRE values starting at 100, 90, 80, etc.

After making all the settings, you can try Dynamic Contrast on Medium and see if you like it. It should give a bit more "pop". It would be best if you can get a Digital Video Essentials DVD to make sure gray scale is good. Since you have Comcast, you can see how B&W movies or videos look and make some fine tweaks to Brightness and maybe Contrast. Always use Brightness and Contrast to to increase overall picture lightness. . . not the back light. Increasing back light will result in washed out black levels.
post #4713 of 5070
"Send the TV’s audio to external audio equipment via the Audio Output port.
If you want to enjoy digital broadcasting through 5.1-channel speakers, connect the OPTICAL DIGITAL
AUDIO OUT terminal on the back of TV to a Home Theater (or amp)." That's from my 32 LD550's manual. I don't want to assume it because they don't come right out and say it... but does that mean that if I input a signal from HDMI from say a Blu-Ray player (playing a 5.1 or better Blu-Ray) that my LD550 will send 5.1 out the optical from the TV?
I'm looking at some configuration options for using older and something new I just bought.
Also does it mean that if I use O.T.A. or cable TV input to the TV directly via HDMI and the broadcast is sending 5.1 programming that it will send that out the optical or does it downmix it to stereo?

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Maybe I better ask it this way.
I just got another clearance HTIB This time it's a Samsung HT-C5500/XXA. The unfortunate thing is & I knew this b4 I bought it, is the U.S. model has NO HDMI inputs and only (1) Toslink/optical input.

I'm going to split my time between O.T.A & Cable --> and I'm looking at getting a Ceton or Silicon Dust Cable Card tuner this winter (so I'd have optical out or HDMI from the graphics card for sound that way).
So if I use my LG 32LD550 will the TV will export the O.T.A & the Cable Boxes' signal back out the optical to the Samsung HT-C5500 in 5.1 (when available) bc that would be perfect. I could use that system in another area (or gift it for X-mas too???)

Otherwise, I could run optical out the cable box into the HTIB - I could even switch off between doing that & the TV for (O.T.A.) depending on which source I'm using though that would get old so I'd likely get maybe a monoprice 3x1 optical switch and then go between the two if the TV won't send out 5.1 via Optical.
post #4714 of 5070
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Originally Posted by DA1745 View Post

"Send the TV’s audio to external audio equipment via the Audio Output port.
If you want to enjoy digital broadcasting through 5.1-channel speakers, connect the OPTICAL DIGITAL
AUDIO OUT terminal on the back of TV to a Home Theater (or amp)." That's from my 32 LD550's manual. I don't want to assume it because they don't come right out and say it... but does that mean that if I input a signal from HDMI from say a Blu-Ray player (playing a 5.1 or better Blu-Ray) that my LD550 will send 5.1 out the optical from the TV?
No, only OTA or Cable reception through the TV tuner will pass 5.1 via TV toslink. This is thanks to the HDCP protocol the "industry" feels it needs to enforce so video/audio can;t be copied to another device.

I'm looking at some configuration options for using older and something new I just bought.
Also does it mean that if I use O.T.A. or cable TV input to the TV directly via HDMI and the broadcast is sending 5.1 programming that it will send that out the optical or does it downmix it to stereo? As stated above. If 5.1 is broadcast and received via the internal TV tuner the TV will ouptut 5.1 when available.

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Maybe I better ask it this way.
I just got another clearance HTIB This time it's a Samsung HT-C5500/XXA. The unfortunate thing is & I knew this b4 I bought it, is the U.S. model has NO HDMI inputs and only (1) Toslink/optical input.

I'm going to split my time between O.T.A & Cable

[The internal TV tuner can be configured to recieve both OTA and Cable. Unless there is some other reason you do not want to use the internal Cable tuner function. It does require a scan of both OTA and cable channels , plus use of the Channel Edit option in the TV Menu. You can use a simple signal splitter/combiner to do this.]--> and I'm looking at getting a Ceton or Silicon Dust Cable Card tuner this winter (so I'd have optical out or HDMI from the graphics card for sound that way).
So if I use my LG 32LD550 will the TV will export the O.T.A & the Cable Boxes' signal back out the optical to the Samsung HT-C5500 in 5.1 (when available) bc that would be perfect. I could use that system in another area (or gift it for X-mas too???)

Otherwise, I could run optical out the cable box into the HTIB - I could even switch off between doing that & the TV for (O.T.A.) depending on which source I'm using though that would get old so I'd likely get maybe a monoprice 3x1 optical switch and then go between the two if the TV won't send out 5.1 via Optical.


Hope this helps. Another owner wanted to do the same thing early in this thread and we worked it out. I think he scanned the cable channels in first, then connected up the TV antenna and used the Channel Edit function to scan in the dozen or so OTA channels afterwards. He used a simple RF switch, or maybe the splitter/combiner) to go between OTA and Cable.
post #4715 of 5070
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Hope this helps. Another owner wanted to do the same thing early in this thread and we worked it out. I think he scanned the cable channels in first, then connected up the TV antenna and used the Channel Edit function to scan in the dozen or so OTA channels afterwards. He used a simple RF switch, or maybe the splitter/combiner) to go between OTA and Cable.

Hey, I started writing a reply LOL before I noticed you had answered the questions in BOLD. LOL. Yes, thank you! I was good on how I was going to do the signal source swapping for the video, this TV is quite nice in it allowing multiples (cable + O.T.A. of the same channel number); but I completely blanked about the HDCP --> audio optical output part. It was nagging at me that it wouldn't work; but the manual was un-helpfully lacking that information.

Basically the only reason I want to go with the S.T.B. or Cable card system via PC is that it would allow me to see & record the premium channels that Clear QAM is locked out of with the TV's tuner... and the cable card saves $8 a month over the S.T.B. too which is almost $100 bucks a year.

Good audio to me is a bit like Blu-Ray or (meth) once I got a taste for it; I gotta' have it whenever I can (can't believe all those years with TV speakers only)... except for the meth thing.
post #4716 of 5070
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ok i am so sorry for the post but it wouldn't let me post a url without having 3 post. never posted before but follow this topic everyday. anyways..

http://www.lg.com/us/support/product...roduct-profile

i googled for an update and found this. i used it on my 55ld520.. says for image quality. not sure what it does other than that..
post #4720 of 5070
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Originally Posted by charlie713 View Post

ok i am so sorry for the post but it wouldn't let me post a url without having 3 post. never posted before but follow this topic everyday. anyways..

http://www.lg.com/us/support/product...roduct-profile

i googled for an update and found this. i used it on my 55ld520.. says for image quality. not sure what it does other than that..

Did you see any difference?
post #4721 of 5070
A little frustration here with LG Support. I emailed them about the upgrade for image quality and asked what it did. The response was that the upgrade "enhances image quality" So I've emailed them back asking for a little more detail on what exactly it does and why. I have the upgrade but haven't applied it yet. I think my image quality is just fine, so if it ain't broke....
post #4722 of 5070
Thread Starter 
I have to agree. . . and I am 3 revisions "behind" on my 42LD550, but I'm almost sure they all are for Netcast features I won't use since I have all those features and more on my BD player and HTPC. It does disappoint me that LG doesn't provide more insight to FW updates. Even Microsoft at least gives a brief synopsis of it's updates. And on many BD players (and my trusty 'ol Toshiba HD DVD player) many times complete descriptions were provided for the remedies involved.
post #4723 of 5070
The only thing I've noticed is maybe.. maybe the set does better with fast moving objects on the screen. I can't tell if anything is different. Someone would have to hook up all kinds of meters or whatever to see if anything is truly different. The 520 doesn't have online features, sadly. I'll have to tinker with it a little more, but the menu seems somewhat faster. Maybe I'm just wishing for all of that. But being as the 520 has never had an update until now, I thought it was kind of a big deal.
post #4724 of 5070
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Originally Posted by charlie713 View Post

The only thing I've noticed is maybe.. maybe the set does better with fast moving objects on the screen. I can't tell if anything is different. Someone would have to hook up all kinds of meters or whatever to see if anything is truly different. The 520 doesn't have online features, sadly. I'll have to tinker with it a little more, but the menu seems somewhat faster. Maybe I'm just wishing for all of that. But being as the 520 has never had an update until now, I thought it was kind of a big deal.

Thanks for the update. I'm trying to get some info from LG on what exactly the update does so we'll see. I have no issues with my LD520 so I'm apprehensive to apply an update unless it's something dramatic.
post #4725 of 5070
So today I woke up and started my normal routine and sat down with my coffee to turn on the TV (55LD520) and this is what I got

http://youtu.be/UDKtGTV_WzU

It just flickers the LG logo and then the screen powers down. I still get sound though. I also tried changing inputs to see if it was a connection problem and I can change the input but nothing shows up on the screen not even the input menu. Also, the screen isn’t even the dark blue color. It looks just like it does when the TV is turned off so I’m pretty sure it is an internal thing like the screen itself isn’t getting any power to it. The worst part about all of this is that I bought it on 9/22/2010 so the warranty just ran out…..any suggestions?
post #4726 of 5070
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Originally Posted by martyac View Post

So today I woke up and started my normal routine and sat down with my coffee to turn on the TV (55LD520) and this is what I got

http://youtu.be/UDKtGTV_WzU

It just flickers the LG logo and then the screen powers down. I still get sound though. I also tried changing inputs to see if it was a connection problem and I can change the input but nothing shows up on the screen not even the input menu. Also, the screen isn’t even the dark blue color. It looks just like it does when the TV is turned off so I’m pretty sure it is an internal thing like the screen itself isn’t getting any power to it. The worst part about all of this is that I bought it on 9/22/2010 so the warranty just ran out…..any suggestions?


Hi Marty, long time! Sorry to hear about your TV issue. I had similar issues with my 5 year old Mitsubishi LCD and it is upsetting. Based on what I saw, I would think it could be a problem with the LCD back light inverter (which powers the LCD back light), an LCD panel drive board over current issue, or a main power supply issue. On my Mitsubishi, when a problems occurs, it usually is accompanied by a flashing error code on the power on light. Anyway, I had to order a DM main board for my Mits and that fixed the problem. . . . for $150.

Now, . . . here's another thing. Did you purchase your TV using a credit card? Most Mastercards ans some others, automatically extend the factory warranty on a big ticket item. So check your receipts and call your CC issuer to find out. I never thought of that when my Mits went out and kick myself now that I remember it!


Edit: One other thing you could try is to unplug the TV for 15 minutes or so, and then plug it back in. You might also try plugging it into another power outlet with no surge protector. You don't say if you are using any power conditioner or surge protector, but sometimes these devices will cause issues. Lastly, I think there is a "Power on Reset" that can be tried. First try unplugging the power for 25 minutes, disconnect ALL other cables including cable or TV antenna, HDMI, etc, and then try it on another power outlet using an extension cord if you have to. This will eliminate the possibility of any other device (like a HTPC) causing a ground loop or power feedback.
post #4727 of 5070
I don't want to start a pros and cons argument on extended warranties but I bought one from my 47LD520 about 1 week before the 180 day period ran out. It wasn't that expensive and I bought it directly from LG so my mfg warranty goes out to 3 years. I usually get some sort of extended warranty on important item (tv's, laptops,etc) and for us, it has come in handy a couple of times. I know that doesn't help you Marty but Phase's suggestion is certainly something to think about if you went the cc route and can prove it. Worth looking into. Maybe LG will cut you some slack being as your warranty recently expired
post #4728 of 5070
Thread Starter 
Hope you saw the EDIT I just added!

Oh, and stop back and visit to let us know if you find anything out?
post #4729 of 5070
Thanks for tips guys! Unfortunately I used my best buy card to take advantage of the 3 years 0% interest and they don't have the extended warranty coverage with their card.
I too usually extended warranties for most of my electronics like laptops and iPods mainly because of the damage protection but with this purchase I was like, hey it's just hanging on the wall what's the worst that could happen I guess that decision bit me in the ass.
I did call LG and they were quick to answer the phone and really polite. I spoke with a lady who asked me to send in a copy of the invoice and she was going to try to speak with her manager to get my warranty extended from 12 months to 13 months and 12 days lol. I guess ill see how that shakes out.
post #4730 of 5070
Phase- that is a good idea about the power rest. Ill have to give that a shot when I get home. Now I will have to anxiously stare at the clock on my computer until quitin time

-Also I do have a surge protecter, but I will deffinatley bust out the ol drop cord and run around the house trying every plug.
post #4731 of 5070
Thread Starter 
Okay MArty. . . keep us posted. Did you try any of the disconnect and unplugging procedures?
post #4732 of 5070
Ok I'm trying the power reset suggestion of unpluggin everything and letting it set before trying to power it up again and I have a question, are these TV supposed to store energy? Everything has been unplugged from the TV for about 10 min and the red power indication light is still on.

Once that goes off I will wait about 15-20 min plug in just the power and see what happens.
post #4733 of 5070
Hmmm, did you unplug the TV itself from the power outlet? You want to do that and wait 5-10 minutes. There's a capacitor discharge delay from the power supply, but that usually lasts a few seconds unless you have a really beefy power supply, like in a high-end power amplifier.
post #4734 of 5070
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Originally Posted by AnotherDude View Post

Hmmm, did you unplug the TV itself from the power outlet? You want to do that and wait 5-10 minutes. There's a capacitor discharge delay from the power supply, but that usually lasts a few seconds unless you have a really beefy power supply, like in a high-end power amplifier.

lol, yeah I was sure to unplug the TV. The left over power in the TV lasted a solid 15 min then I left it unplugged and completely unconnected from everything else for 25 min just to be sure and unfortunately that didn't help.

LG said they would let me know by Monday if they could help me out or not so now the waiting game
post #4735 of 5070
have had this set for almost a year.. have finally gotten really annoyed with the shuddering (i always have tru motion turned OFF, i hate the SOE). it really only happens the worst when I'm streaming videos through ps3media server from my PC (plenty of bandwidth, cpu power, and hardwired ethernet).

i've tested the same video through ps3media server with the same settings on my LD520 and a ****** 32" lcd in the bedroom. The bedroom lcd is obviously just a 60hz set and it plays the movie fine with no shuddering at all (panning left/right skipping). When I view the same part on my TV it's very jerky.

I've tried turning on Trumotion for shits and grins and aside from the SOE, it smoothes out most shudders but still has some skips when panning, and when those skips happen it's more severe it seems.

Anyone have any ideas? Guess I shoulda got the LD450 set so I don't have to deal with this 120Hz crap but too late now.
post #4736 of 5070
@alucard - you should definitely try the firmware update that recently became available. Mentioned a few posts back.
post #4737 of 5070
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by alucard_x View Post

have had this set for almost a year.. have finally gotten really annoyed with the shuddering (i always have tru motion turned OFF, i hate the SOE). it really only happens the worst when I'm streaming videos through ps3media server from my PC (plenty of bandwidth, cpu power, and hardwired ethernet).

i've tested the same video through ps3media server with the same settings on my LD520 and a ****** 32" lcd in the bedroom. The bedroom lcd is obviously just a 60hz set and it plays the movie fine with no shuddering at all (panning left/right skipping). When I view the same part on my TV it's very jerky.

I've tried turning on Trumotion for shits and grins and aside from the SOE, it smoothes out most shudders but still has some skips when panning, and when those skips happen it's more severe it seems.

Anyone have any ideas? Guess I shoulda got the LD450 set so I don't have to deal with this 120Hz crap but too late now.

Try reading through this thread starting at Post #675.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...327825&page=23

It seems some LG models have an issue at certain resolutions of handling a break in 2:3 pull down. This also may happen if a video source is poorly edited or drops frames occasionally (such as from HTPC sources or even some cable/satellite). These models seem to have to :hunt" after a break in frame sequence and catch up. The result is the studder you see. Myself and others don't seem to suffer from it on our TV, but even some new LK series TV have it. Perhaps, as Djams mentioned the new updated may address it?
post #4738 of 5070
@djams

Nice to see you out and about again
post #4739 of 5070
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Try reading through this thread starting at Post #675.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...327825&page=23

It seems some LG models have an issue at certain resolutions of handling a break in 2:3 pull down. This also may happen if a video source is poorly edited or drops frames occasionally (such as from HTPC sources or even some cable/satellite). These models seem to have to :hunt" after a break in frame sequence and catch up. The result is the studder you see. Myself and others don't seem to suffer from it on our TV, but even some new LK series TV have it. Perhaps, as Djams mentioned the new updated may address it?

Thanks for the responses everyone.

I think first I'll hookup my WDTV Live plus (what I was using to stream to the bedroom tv) to my LG and re-run the same test, to confirm if it's my TV or the Xbox360. From here I'll try the firmware update.
post #4740 of 5070
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by alucard_x View Post

Thanks for the responses everyone.

I think first I'll hookup my WDTV Live plus (what I was using to stream to the bedroom tv) to my LG and re-run the same test, to confirm if it's my TV or the Xbox360. From here I'll try the firmware update.

For some video sources, owners have found setting the source to 720p has helped. Some other, as I remember, found setting a source to 1080i rather than 1080p helped. No reasons for this were discovered and we do not know if LG ever knew or resolved this issue.
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