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post #4861 of 5070
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by turbo stephan View Post

thanks Phase700B!

In regards to the XBox, yes I am using an HDMI cable. When I press q.menu (or home -- picture) and I'm playing a DVD through the XBox, I get the following options for picture mode:

-intelligent sensor
-vivid
-standard
-cinema
-sport
-game
-isf Day
-isf Night

If you've got any idea of why this is, ti would be much appreciated

Ok. . ISF Day and ISF Night modes mean that someone created settings in what was previously designated as Expert 1 and EXpert 2 modes. What this mean is you need the 4 digit "code" to UNLOCK enter and save any new settings. Did you buy this TV used or refurbed? If so, the only way out may be to completely do a RESET in the main menu. You would have to go into Option in the Menu, select Initial Setting, and then "Yes". You could also first try "Mode Setting" which should be Home Use. .. and change it to Demo.

You can try one or a combination of both of these procedures. Is this a previously owned TV?
post #4862 of 5070
I will be picking up my new LG 42LK520 this weekend.
I will be connecting a Directv HD dvr via HDMI.
Can anyone point me to base settings?
post #4863 of 5070
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willisf View Post
I will be picking up my new LG 42LK520 this weekend.
I will be connecting a Directv HD dvr via HDMI.
Can anyone point me to base settings?

You can try one of the settings in Post#1 in this thread (hit First up above). And I will include one or two here. You should make sure you set the the TV for "Home Use" in the Menu when you first power it up. Then, after connecting up your DirecTV use one of the Preset Picture Modes such as Standard or Cinema.

Here are two settings and I also suggest reading post #2 about room lighting and other hints. Use of a BLu-ray player and a set up Disc would be good too!


HDMI Input\t
Cinema (User)

Energy Saving Off ( Minimum or Medium for Night Time )

\t Range of values based on user reports.
Backlight\t40 (27-65) Higher causes wash out
Contrast\t86 (75-94) Higher causes white clip
Brightness\t51 (47-55) Higher caaues wash out
Sharpness\t64 (50-70) 50 is neutral. Too much causes hallos\t
Color 51 (45-53) 50 is neutral. Too much causes color bleed
Tint\t G2
Color Temperature W41 ( Recommend W40 to W50 )


Advanced Control
\t
Dynamic Contrast Off (Or Medium. Low or High casues black crush)
Dynamic Color\t Low (Or Off)
Clear White\t Off (Or Low)
Skin Color\t 3
Noise Reduction Off
Dig. Noise Red. Off
Gamma\t Low
Black Level\t Low
Eye Care\t Off (default)
\t
Color Gamut Standard
\t

For a more technical Expert Setting you can try the below file. But I recommend you try the one above first and also try the Standard Pciture mode with similar values as above and tweak as you like plus or minus just few numerical values.

If you have more questions we will be here!

 

LG 42LD550 OTA Cable ISF EXPERT 2 W_2-POINT 1-16-12.txt 1.4541015625k . file
post #4864 of 5070
If I change the settings on say standard picture is there a way to reset to the original
setting for that preset?
post #4865 of 5070
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by willisf View Post

If I change the settings on say standard picture is there a way to reset to the original
setting for that preset?

Yes, there is! Go into Menu, select the Picture Mode (say Standard) , and look for Picture Reset.
post #4866 of 5070
home for the weekend and forced to use 22" monitor for xbox.... makes me miss my 32LD550 so much lol random i know but love this tv
post #4867 of 5070
Thoughts on using Clear Voice2?
post #4868 of 5070
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Originally Posted by willisf View Post

Thoughts on using Clear Voice2?

Didn't like it, but once I setup my HTS, it was a moot point.
post #4869 of 5070
anyone got any sound settings??

preferably for gaming but any would do
post #4870 of 5070
Thread Starter 
A lot depends on the screen size and therefore speaker size in the TV.

But for starters here's on. . . tweak to suit:

Sound Mode Cinema (User)

Auto Volume ON

Clear Voice 2 5

Treble 75

Bass 550 - 60

Then try Music with the Same settings.
post #4871 of 5070
Hey Guys,

I'm new to this forum. I was really considering sending my LG 42lk520 back to amazon until I found this site. I am a picture fanatic but never understood the science of calibrating a tv. I have a question. I have been looking at the configurations on page#3 post #61 but I do not understand how to edit these values below:

>>Pattern
IRE Adj. Points R, G, B

Luminance 100IRE 115


100 -5, -1, 3
90 -1, 1, 9
80 3, 2, 1
70 2, 2, -1
60 4, 3, -1
50 4, 2, -2
40 5, -2, 0
30 3, 0, -1
20 3, 0, 0
10 0, 1, -1
0 0, 6, 20


what does these settings mean and how can I edit them?
post #4872 of 5070
Those are part of the CMS (Color Management System) and were derived with the use of a meter and software for the particular set that was calibrated. They can be found under the Expert settings and are adjusted by changing the IRE 100 to 90, then 80, etc. If you choose to change the settings, I would write everything down so you can always go back and put them back in if you don't like the result. I would suggest adjusting the presets first and see how that goes and don't use the Expert settings until you're more familiar with what the settings do and mean. You can always change the presets back by clicking on reset for that particular preset and input.
post #4873 of 5070
Ok, so IRE is the high numbers 100,90,80,etc? And the -5 (Red) -1(Blue) 3(Green) ?
post #4874 of 5070
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Originally Posted by hitsndc View Post

Ok, so IRE is the high numbers 100,90,80,etc? And the -5 (Red) -1(Blue) 3(Green) ?

The IREs are the gray scale and the RBG numbers are offsets, if you will, for accurately setting the color against a given percentage of gray. Those numbers can not be achieved and verified without the use of a meter and software. You're basically calibrating at that point against the rec.709 standard. If you want a more detailed and scientific explanation I'd suggest moving over to the Display Calibration forum and asking your questions there. But be warned, they don't take too kindly to repeated questions from newbies or any one who disagrees with them.
post #4875 of 5070
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.
How about Tru Motion, low or medium?

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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

You can try one of the settings in Post#1 in this thread (hit First up above). And I will include one or two here. You should make sure you set the the TV for "Home Use" in the Menu when you first power it up. Then, after connecting up your DirecTV use one of the Preset Picture Modes such as Standard or Cinema.

Here are two settings and I also suggest reading post #2 about room lighting and other hints. Use of a BLu-ray player and a set up Disc would be good too!


HDMI Input
Cinema (User)

Energy Saving Off ( Minimum or Medium for Night Time )

Range of values based on user reports.
Backlight 40 (27-65) Higher causes wash out
Contrast 86 (75-94) Higher causes white clip
Brightness 51 (47-55) Higher caaues wash out
Sharpness 64 (50-70) 50 is neutral. Too much causes hallos
Color 51 (45-53) 50 is neutral. Too much causes color bleed
Tint G2
Color Temperature W41 ( Recommend W40 to W50 )


Advanced Control

Dynamic Contrast Off (Or Medium. Low or High casues black crush)
Dynamic Color Low (Or Off)
Clear White Off (Or Low)
Skin Color 3
Noise Reduction Off
Dig. Noise Red. Off
Gamma Low
Black Level Low
Eye Care Off (default)

Color Gamut Standard


For a more technical Expert Setting you can try the below file. But I recommend you try the one above first and also try the Standard Pciture mode with similar values as above and tweak as you like plus or minus just few numerical values.

If you have more questions we will be here!
post #4876 of 5070
Thread Starter 
TruMotion is truly used at owners discretion. Some do not like the overly smooth "soap opera effect". I use it fro sports and some live TV programs In the User mode where you can set it. I have Judder=1 And Blur=2. Even these settings add quite a bit of motion smoothing.
post #4877 of 5070
Yeah, when I have both set to only 1 it still gives it the horrible soap opera effect. The only time it really should be used is during sports and live events, but even then it's annoying because commercials end up looking like videotaped crap!
post #4878 of 5070
Now I didn't see this myself but my wife says last night Downton Abby on PBS was very
juttery .. would this be a case case of turning up Tru Motion to help?
post #4879 of 5070
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Originally Posted by willisf View Post

Now I didn't see this myself but my wife says last night Downton Abby on PBS was very
juttery .. would this be a case case of turning up Tru Motion to help?

It's funny you should mention Downton Abbey. An excellent PBS series btw. Part of the problem with Part 2 this year (and Part 1 as well last year) is that the series is filmed in Britain in a different frame rate so there is some converting that needs to be done before it is shown over here which exaggerates the cadence on 120Hz sets. If you stream last year's from Netflix it's very smooth so I'm not sure why the Netflix "copies" are different from first run US television. I do know that the BBS versions are longer in time than what is shown over here so there is some editing done. I don't want to get into the technicalities because I don't completely understand them but there was (or still is) a very good discussion on this very subject over in the HDTV Programming forum. FWIW, I completely turned off TruMotion last night and it seemed to help.

I checked on Downton Abbey and it appears that in Britain it is filmed in 25i but then converted to 29.97i (50i to 59.94i?) for presentation here so that may account for why it's a little juddery at times. It's a bit more complicated than that but that's the best I can come up with.
post #4880 of 5070
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

First. . . Greetings Henry! Hope all is well.

If the source is a DVD it will be 60fps. If it is Blu-ray, it may be 24fps. We had a long "discussion" in this thread about the "slow down" or "frame drop/stutter". Some of remember it very well.

Anyway, a Blu-ray player usually has it's own video settings as does a game system for playing DVD or Blu-ray. I'm thinking the issue you are having may be because the game system is trying to send a 1080p 60HZ signal to the TV. 1080p should only be at 24FPS. When this discussion came up earlier, an owner with an XBox 360 also complained of this issue and resolved it I think, by changing some settings in the XBox and TV. . . I think. And, yes, Real Cinema will not be available unless a 1080p 24fps signal is sent to the TV.

You can try using the Search Thread feature at the upper right of this page and and search for "thegam3". You can start at post #473 and search his name for posts. I also think you could try a different output resolution setting of the Xbox. . . such as 720p.


Wait a second, so we can't use 1080p on Xbox because the tv is expecting a 24fps feed when in 1080p? You can't be serious.
post #4881 of 5070
Thread Starter 
Only if your TV has the stuttering issue. It seems it may be an issue with dropped frames. Many owners also solve the issue by selecting 720p. If you use the Search Thread option there is more info on this.
post #4882 of 5070
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Only if your TV has the stuttering issue. It seems it may be an issue with dropped frames. Many owners also solve the issue by selecting 720p. If you use the Search Thread option there is more info on this.

Mine does? Isn't it faulty then? I'm 36 days removed from my warranty . . .
post #4883 of 5070
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Originally Posted by Dabois09 View Post

Mine does? Isn't it faulty then? I'm 36 days removed from my warranty . . .

That doesn't necessarily mean that the tv is faulty. It seems that Xbox/PS3 have issues at times with some models correctly matching the cadence. That's not to say that the Xbox is faulty either. Some folks never have any problems, others have to do a workaround as Phase mentioned above.
post #4884 of 5070
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

That doesn't necessarily mean that the tv is faulty. It seems that Xbox/PS3 have issues at times with some models correctly matching the cadence. That's not to say that the Xbox is faulty either. Some folks never have any problems, others have to do a workaround as Phase mentioned above.

Does this affect games or just movies?
post #4885 of 5070
i get the effect on Rockband but fix it by turning truemotion on and then off. weird huh

in the end i just keep it at 1080p (text look sharper in Gears of war for example) and i dont watch any vidoes or movies on the xbox anymore. when watching videos/movies i use laptop and attach it to my TV where i can choose my refresh rate which pretty much eliminates the stutter
post #4886 of 5070
Quote:
Originally Posted by thegam3 View Post

i get the effect on Rockband but fix it by turning truemotion on and then off. weird huh

in the end i just keep it at 1080p (text look sharper in Gears of war for example) and i dont watch any vidoes or movies on the xbox anymore. when watching videos/movies i use laptop and attach it to my TV where i can choose my refresh rate which pretty much eliminates the stutter

which refresh rate do you set your laptop at when connected to the tv to eliminate stutter?
post #4887 of 5070
Quote:
Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

That doesn't necessarily mean that the tv is faulty. It seems that Xbox/PS3 have issues at times with some models correctly matching the cadence. That's not to say that the Xbox is faulty either. Some folks never have any problems, others have to do a workaround as Phase mentioned above.

Tried my Xbox 360 on my aunt's 42inch Vizio E420VL and the issues weren't present, the picture also looked much better (more dimension to it). The Xbox is definitely not at fault here. I also have an issue with my cable box (Motorola HD DVR) whenever I get a program with facetime (NFL Network/ESPN) I experience a lot of slowdown on their face, I'm not sure why these two things happen. Good news is I called LG, they said I'm a month out of warranty but will provide a 1 month courtesy extension so I can have a tech diagnose the issue and potentially do a repair. It would appear I've won the "panel lottery" as I have a "AUSW" model. This is strange because I have a lot of ghosting during gaming which I don't think is normal? In order to get my warranty extension I have to send in a copy of my original receipt to have it approved.
post #4888 of 5070
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Originally Posted by Dabois09 View Post

Tried my Xbox 360 on my aunt's 42inch Vizio E420VL and the issues weren't present, the picture also looked much better (more dimension to it). The Xbox is definitely not at fault here. I also have an issue with my cable box (Motorola HD DVR) whenever I get a program with facetime (NFL Network/ESPN) I experience a lot of slowdown on their face, I'm not sure why these two things happen. Good news is I called LG, they said I'm a month out of warranty but will provide a 1 month courtesy extension so I can have a tech diagnose the issue and potentially do a repair. It would appear I've won the "panel lottery" as I have a "AUSW" model. This is strange because I have a lot of ghosting during gaming which I don't think is normal? In order to get my warranty extension I have to send in a copy of my original receipt to have it approved.

Glad to hear that LG stepped up to the plate with your warranty extension. That's cool. I have an S-IPS as well but none of the issues you mentioned. It probably varies from set to set even within the same model line.
post #4889 of 5070
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

Glad to hear that LG stepped up to the plate with your warranty extension. That's cool. I have an S-IPS as well but none of the issues you mentioned. It probably varies from set to set even within the same model line.


Here's an example of what I'm experiencing with my 360

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfobKsTK0Y4

http://youtu.be/-lF1Jz0o_7g
post #4890 of 5070
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dabois09 View Post

Here's an example of what I'm experiencing with my 360

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfobKsTK0Y4

http://youtu.be/-lF1Jz0o_7g

Wow, I don't play games but even I can see that. And it's the same for movies/tv as well?
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