Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity
Hello all my LG friends!
I think that all manufacturer's models on the lower end have been significantly cheapened down, in the last 2 years. I know this is true for Vizio, which Ive been particularly knowledgable about. I think 2009-2010 was a market sweet spot as far as price to performance. You can get cheaper sets now, but you can see the cuts in useful features (like available ports) as well. My 2007-2008 Vizio GV42LF was/is built like a tank. at around 70 or 80 lbs. They are down to 33ish lbs, these days for the same size 42".
Ive been looking about for a set again, and am just not that excited about what is out there. Never warmed to LED backlighting, seems problematic and prone to trouble, especially with local dimming. I have no use for 3D, whatsoever. Im mainly concentrating on the panel itself, I think, this time. Perhaps a latest gen Samsung/Sony or Sharp (not Quad). The only thing I really want, that I havent had is 120 Hz. 10 bit color or panels would be nice. You know the simple things. Not the flash. Maybe Ill pick up a plasma?
Just wanted to note my broad agreement on that assessment.
Being a bit of a TV junky I agree with your findings. Not as much to choose from these days in mid and low end TVs. If your Vizio is still good why look?
Anyway, for the money, after viewing a lot of TVs, I find the Samsung EH6000, EH6030, EH6070 ( same as EH6030 but bundled w/3D Blu-ray) with the S-PVA panel about the best band for the LCD buck. Make sure you get a TS01 or TS02 panel as indicated by a label on the outside of the box near the model number and other numbering TV makers always put on there TV labels. I looked at several of these in a few stores and went into a Best Buy during a Tuesday morning and spent 2 hours using the remote and my AVS HD709 disc to get some reasonable settings.
For plasma the talk seems to be a Panasonic GT50, ST50, or UT50. I've looked at them but the glossier screen and plasma issues deter me. They say these TVs also are not very good with SD material whereas I know the Samsungs to a very nice job with SD DVDs as well as Blu-ray and broadcast TV. I recommended the Samsung EH6000 to several people including here on AVS and some tried other TV brands/models in the same price range and finally ended up with the EH6000. The EH6030 is a 3D version and there are suspicions that it may not be the same quality as the EH6000. . . but only suspicions, If you can swing it, I would buy an EH6000 and an EH6030 (EH6070) and set them up side by side for a couple of weeks and see which you prefer.
This price range of most if not all major brands have cut down on HDMI inputs, etc, but the Samsung EH6000 series would be my choice this year. My personal research is that you can spend a lot more for Smart TV features and not get much better performance PQ wise. And even then, TVs like the Samsung EH8000 and EH9000 series seem to have nagging issues according to the post here on AVS in those TV threads. The same goes for Sony, although I read some good things about the HX950. . . but lots of money there! I was impressed with some Sharp models, but not for the price and I keep reading about calibration issues and other picture issues with that "added" yellow pixel.
My 2 cents.Edited by Phase700B - 10/27/12 at 8:58am