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I had heard that you'd switched to the "other side" biggrin.gif I'm just glad that you had the same LD520 that I had because you, among others, were instrumental in helping me get the most out of my first LCD purchase. Thank you.
Thanks Otto, and you're certainly welcome. smile.gif This thread was a lot of fun (and learning) during it's hayday, wasn't it?
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where can i download this?


All the downloads I got were online when my TV is connected up to the internet. A notice will usually pop up. But the LG USA website is also a good place to check. You just go to the site, enter in your product model and look at Product Support.

If you have an LD450 or LD520 the Skype feature is only for the LD550 and higher.
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Thanks Otto, and you're certainly welcome. smile.gif This thread was a lot of fun (and learning) during it's hayday, wasn't it?

It certainly was. There were some disagreements a long the way but nothing as vitriolic as you see in other threads now. There are some who seem to move from thread to thread just to stir it up frown.gif Gotta have the last word doncha' know? rolleyes.gif
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I have learned a great deal from this thread and found it shortly after getting my 42LD550 a couple of yrs ago. I have not had much trouble and most were based in not understanding how to use the thing rather than shortcomings. Other than learning there was no ARC or other Audio features in the tv, I have been lucky with quality of the picture. I downloaded the Calibration information and made the disk which i used, as well as using some of the examples posted as baselines for me to start from. since the whole process was totally new to me.
I am very thankful to those who invested their time and efforts to assist others in some of these foreign tasks. I never had a tv with more than the bright and contrast knobs before and then the color 2, hue and saturation or auto for all of the controls.
I wanted to express my gratitude to all who shared their experience and those who asked the good questions as well.
Learning how to adjust my set would have been a far more frustrating experience than it has been. But, my clock still loses a couple of minutes sometimes., though it has been perfect for the last 3 or 4months. It really isnt much of a problem, but the only one i can think of with the 550.
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Thanks again for the settings had a quick question what would the settings have to be if the IRE SETTING goes to just 100 opposed to 110 or higher?
post #4986 of 5047
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Glad to know some of the info helped you with your TV settings. I'm not sure what you mean about "higher than IRE 100". The IRE settings are specific "windows" or fields or levels of brightness in a TV gray scale. It depends on the brand/model of a particular TV how many IRE points may be in the menu for adjustments. Some only may have a single red, green, blue "white balance". Others may have a 2 Point to do an upper RGB and lower RGB white balance. White balance is just another term for gray scale, which was also known as a "white purity" setting. Still other TVs offer a 10 point or even 20 point IRE settings. But they always go from 0 to 100.

Here is a link for a detailed explanation of what typically is being looked for as the ideal in setting gray scale . . .. making the IRE settings. Also a link to the AVS free HD709 posts to burn your own calibration disc which is burnable on a DVD but plays as a Blu-ray disc.

http://www.avforums.com/forums/room-acoustics-audio-video-calibration/760012-greyscale-calibration-dummies.html

http://www.avsforum.com/t/948496/avs-hd-709-blu-ray-mp4-calibration
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OK had to download the latest firmware from the LG site (it wouldn't auto update) and got the update on our 32LD550. But Skype tells me to connect an LG Camera/Microphone, I searched the LG site and can't find one anywhere.

So what Camera/Microphone is compatible with the LD550 and Skype and where do we get one? It didn't seem to work with our older Creative Cam/Mic.


Thanks,
Darwin
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Originally Posted by dcweyh View Post

OK had to download the latest firmware from the LG site (it wouldn't auto update) and got the update on our 32LD550. But Skype tells me to connect an LG Camera/Microphone, I searched the LG site and can't find one anywhere.
So what Camera/Microphone is compatible with the LD550 and Skype and where do we get one? It didn't seem to work with our older Creative Cam/Mic.
Thanks,
Darwin

As long as you've downloaded the correct update for your LG this may work:

http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/LG-AN-VC200-Skype-Camera/5601143/product.html

Keep in mind that firmware updates are VERY model/region specific so not all features may be available in all regions for the same model.
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

As long as you've downloaded the correct update for your LG this may work:
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/LG-AN-VC200-Skype-Camera/5601143/product.html
Keep in mind that firmware updates are VERY model/region specific so not all features may be available in all regions for the same model.

Thanks I'm in the US and it all seems to work except the camera is not available.
Oh well...My wife will have to stick to the Laptop to see the Grandson.

LG has let me down I guess. Next time I'll stick to a not so smart TV and a Set Top Box.
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Thanks I'm in the US and it all seems to work except the camera is not available.
Oh well...My wife will have to stick to the Laptop to see the Grandson.
LG has let me down I guess. Next time I'll stick to a not so smart TV and a Set Top Box.

That's one of the reasons I didn't buy a smart tv. I think they're over-rated especially when there are much better options available like AppleTV, smart blu-ray players etc. In fact, my Panasonic blu-ray player has built-in WiFi and has a Skype application. All you have to do is purchase the camera, plug it into the back of the player and you're good to go.
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Hello all my LG friends!

I think that all manufacturer's models on the lower end have been significantly cheapened down, in the last 2 years. I know this is true for Vizio, which Ive been particularly knowledgable about. I think 2009-2010 was a market sweet spot as far as price to performance. You can get cheaper sets now, but you can see the cuts in useful features (like available ports) as well. My 2007-2008 Vizio GV42LF was/is built like a tank. at around 70 or 80 lbs. They are down to 33ish lbs, these days for the same size 42".

Ive been looking about for a set again, and am just not that excited about what is out there. Never warmed to LED backlighting, seems problematic and prone to trouble, especially with local dimming. I have no use for 3D, whatsoever. Im mainly concentrating on the panel itself, I think, this time. Perhaps a latest gen Samsung/Sony or Sharp (not Quad). The only thing I really want, that I havent had is 120 Hz. 10 bit color or panels would be nice. You know the simple things. Not the flash. Maybe Ill pick up a plasma?

Just wanted to note my broad agreement on that assessment.
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Thanks again for the help looked at the wrong setting did have one last question would you have some setting for the cool settings opposed to the warm I seem to like more the cooler settings such as the ones I have on my Proscan.
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Thanks again for the help looked at the wrong setting did have one last question would you have some setting for the cool settingsW opposed to the warm I seem to like more the cooler settings such as the ones I have on my Proscan.

Note that the settings obtained on one TV may not translate well, or at all, to another TV. That said, here is a setting I used on my LG BD550 Blu-ray player with good results for your cooler look, Note, that I included a 2 Point setting which should be done first ( Select 2 Point rather than 10-Point in Method). In other words, make the 2 Point settings first, then select 10 Point and inter those IRE values.

There are actually two sets of values. the 2-19-2012 Mod settings will be about the same but with a slightly different gamma curve. Again, whether it works on your particular TV or not may not be likely since my TV leans to having some red push. Let me know how it turns out if you wold please.

LG 42LD550 Expert 2 COOLER____HDMI 4 BEST BLU-RAY W_2-POINT 2-13-12.txt 2k .txt file
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

Hello all my LG friends!
I think that all manufacturer's models on the lower end have been significantly cheapened down, in the last 2 years. I know this is true for Vizio, which Ive been particularly knowledgable about. I think 2009-2010 was a market sweet spot as far as price to performance. You can get cheaper sets now, but you can see the cuts in useful features (like available ports) as well. My 2007-2008 Vizio GV42LF was/is built like a tank. at around 70 or 80 lbs. They are down to 33ish lbs, these days for the same size 42".
Ive been looking about for a set again, and am just not that excited about what is out there. Never warmed to LED backlighting, seems problematic and prone to trouble, especially with local dimming. I have no use for 3D, whatsoever. Im mainly concentrating on the panel itself, I think, this time. Perhaps a latest gen Samsung/Sony or Sharp (not Quad). The only thing I really want, that I havent had is 120 Hz. 10 bit color or panels would be nice. You know the simple things. Not the flash. Maybe Ill pick up a plasma?
Just wanted to note my broad agreement on that assessment.

Being a bit of a TV junky I agree with your findings. Not as much to choose from these days in mid and low end TVs. If your Vizio is still good why look? tongue.gif

Anyway, for the money, after viewing a lot of TVs, I find the Samsung EH6000, EH6030, EH6070 ( same as EH6030 but bundled w/3D Blu-ray) with the S-PVA panel about the best band for the LCD buck. Make sure you get a TS01 or TS02 panel as indicated by a label on the outside of the box near the model number and other numbering TV makers always put on there TV labels. I looked at several of these in a few stores and went into a Best Buy during a Tuesday morning and spent 2 hours using the remote and my AVS HD709 disc to get some reasonable settings.

For plasma the talk seems to be a Panasonic GT50, ST50, or UT50. I've looked at them but the glossier screen and plasma issues deter me. They say these TVs also are not very good with SD material whereas I know the Samsungs to a very nice job with SD DVDs as well as Blu-ray and broadcast TV. I recommended the Samsung EH6000 to several people including here on AVS and some tried other TV brands/models in the same price range and finally ended up with the EH6000. The EH6030 is a 3D version and there are suspicions that it may not be the same quality as the EH6000. . . but only suspicions, If you can swing it, I would buy an EH6000 and an EH6030 (EH6070) and set them up side by side for a couple of weeks and see which you prefer.

This price range of most if not all major brands have cut down on HDMI inputs, etc, but the Samsung EH6000 series would be my choice this year. My personal research is that you can spend a lot more for Smart TV features and not get much better performance PQ wise. And even then, TVs like the Samsung EH8000 and EH9000 series seem to have nagging issues according to the post here on AVS in those TV threads. The same goes for Sony, although I read some good things about the HX950. . . but lots of money there! I was impressed with some Sharp models, but not for the price and I keep reading about calibration issues and other picture issues with that "added" yellow pixel.

My 2 cents.
Edited by Phase700B - 10/27/12 at 8:58am
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Thanks for your considered advice, Phase700B.

I am just an A/V enthusiast of modest means. So I like to dabble. Certainly dont mind, mining for lost gems on the used market....in fact I enjoy it. Ive never owned a Plasma though. Im considering looking for a 8th or 9th Gen 50" Pioneer Kuro for myself, perhaps in 720p. Or perhaps an old 7uy, 8uk, 9uk Panasonic Commercial 50".

Im looking at a Samsung 51D550 maybe for my brother as a Christmas gift. He is OTA with internet streaming and DVD as sources. I heard the Samsungs and LGs have much better OTA tuners and programming guides than the current Pannys.

Im also looking to pick up a Panasonic AX200u 720p projector or an Epson 8350 1080p.

Other things I am looking at.

Old Sharp 45" LCD especially the 4U series
Sharp **D62U
Westinghouse 47W1, 42W1, 32W3
Sharp 32GP1U
Vizio XVT series from the last few years
Samsung 4061 true matte screen
Olevia 747i or 265

Vizio VP505XVT plasma
Hitachi high end plasma from yesteryear
Panasonic ED 854x480 Commercial Plasmas 6ht or better yet 7th Generation PW prefix instead of PH in the nomenclature

Barco and Sony CRT projectors of several flavors


Im a tinkerer more than an ultimate perfection seeker.....with eccentricities. Though I do enjoy film, video and audio.

Some examples...

Ive totally eschewed surround sound, and gone back to 2 channel. Part of this has to do with my hearing issues, but I still can appreciate a well set up surround system. I like vintage audio gear. I dont own a Blu Ray player, but Im still acquiring various DVD players. I stream Netflix at 480, preferring the responsiveness over any visual gain (this is on a 42" screen though). Im looking to acquire a couple of TOTL VCRs from the 90s and early 2000s.

That type of thing.

Weird, I know.
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Originally Posted by Otto Pylot View Post

That's one of the reasons I didn't buy a smart tv. I think they're over-rated especially when there are much better options available like AppleTV, smart blu-ray players etc. In fact, my Panasonic blu-ray player has built-in WiFi and has a Skype application. All you have to do is purchase the camera, plug it into the back of the player and you're good to go.

Yeah, from the beginning, I thought integrating Internet Connectivity into the TV was a poor investment for the average consumer. For one thing, the hardware is pretty much in stasis. With a set top box or lappy or what have you, you can swap them out and upgrade hardware as needed.

I love streaming and computer integration and wifi, dont get me wrong. I just think that it is poor from a system design standpoint to integrate them into the TV itself.
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

Thanks for your considered advice, Phase700B.
I am just an A/V enthusiast of modest means. So I like to dabble. Certainly dont mind, mining for lost gems on the used market....in fact I enjoy it.
Ive totally eschewed surround sound, and gone back to 2 channel. Part of this has to do with my hearing issues, but I still can appreciate a well set up surround system. I like vintage audio gear. I dont own a Blu Ray player, but Im still acquiring various DVD players. I stream Netflix at 480, preferring the responsiveness over any visual gain (this is on a 42" screen though). Im looking to acquire a couple of TOTL VCRs from the 90s and early 2000s.
That type of thing.
Weird, I know.


I see where you are going now. I'm kind of the same way, but have returned to vintage audio gear. I seem to "accidentally" run into '70s and '80s audio gear in the pat year or so. I picked up two Pioneer RT-701 R2R decks at the same time from a guy that I was buying a very nice JVC cassette deck from. Also, he threw in a nice Elac Miracord 40A turntable. A month ago I got a Sony TC-755 R2R deck now on my bench and needing a few capacitors in the left record channel. And, a few weeks back while on a short trip to our cabin we stopped at an impromptu estate sale and a Sony STR-7065 and Dual 1229Q "found" me for $40. The 7065 in in beautiful shape, but again needs some aging capacitors replaced which I just received on order from Mouser in Texas. And. . . we stopped at a St. Vincent De Paul store last night and found a very nice Sony CDP-C225 5 disc CD player in like new condition. I opened the top up and not even any dust! I have the CDP-C435 whch is and upscale version and I take care of it, but it still gets dusty from changing CDs. This "new" one looks as though it was never/hardly used. Playing it right now. So lots to do.

I have more than enough video gear to deal with and was always a bit leery of buying used LCD TVs, but I'm sure there are some good low hours units out there from people who just want the newest "smart" TVs. I just don;t know where I would put another 40" or 50" flat screen. But I agree, a plasma would be neat to play with. A guy would just have to be aware of some of the older TVs with things like floating black levels, screen burn, and such. Maybe a GT50 in a couple years when they are "old"? But , yes , a Kuro might be nice but I hear they still fetch pretty good prices.

I agree about looking at some TOTL VCRs from the late '90s to early '00. I picker up 2 Sony SLV-R1000 S-VHS decks that I've used to copy some family VHS tapes of the kids growing up, but they also work great for recording HD OTA video off the air with the right kind of HD tuner like an RCA ATSC11. It's still only S-VHS and 480i but looks about as good as DVD most times.

For now, I have a lot of nice audio gear for a few dollars. Really beautiful stuff when you come across units that were taking care of or hardly used.

Edited by Phase700B - 10/27/12 at 2:20pm
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I am using the settings on my LG 42LD550. Thanks once again for your help really like the moderate settings works great for me,,,, perfect. Always nice to be able to read your posts you do a great service here,,, saves us all,, frustrations and headaches even getting bad information from the sales staff..
Thanks so much again,,,,,
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You are welcome. I also have the 42LD550, but I have a very early version with what was called the Global Plat-2 construction. My TV leaned a lot in the red direction and it seemed most others were cooler and leaned towards blue. But glad it works on your TV also.


So just to help me. . . did you try the last settings I just posted and they look ok for your TV?
Edited by Phase700B - 10/27/12 at 12:51pm
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Originally Posted by EscapeVelocity View Post

Yeah, from the beginning, I thought integrating Internet Connectivity into the TV was a poor investment for the average consumer. For one thing, the hardware is pretty much in stasis. With a set top box or lappy or what have you, you can swap them out and upgrade hardware as needed.
I love streaming and computer integration and wifi, dont get me wrong. I just think that it is poor from a system design standpoint to integrate them into the TV itself.

I think the smart tv stems from the fact that a lot of folks want their brand spanking new HDTVs to work like their computers and I don't think the marriage of the two is quite there yet. A lot of update issues seem to come from updating the smart aspect of the tv and not necessarily the functionality of the audio/video portion. And some folks just gotta have the most recent update without taking the time to research if it fixes a problem they have or don't have. If we want big screen computer usage we just connect an HDMI cable from the laptop to the tv and voila!. Not elegant in the sense that there is a cable running across the floor but for the few times we want to, it works perfectly. And with the streaming capabilities on the blu-ray player, the AppleTV2, and the laptop, what more do you need? I can even stream wirelessly from my MacBook Air via AppleTV2 to the tv using Mirroring. Anyway, I digress.
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For now, I have a lot of nice audio gear for a few dollars. Really beautiful stuff when you come across units that were taking care of or hardly used. Off topic but:

Show off biggrin.gif
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Yeah, I know. I'll delete the photobucket links in a bit. But it is a lot of work and labor of love to get these vintage units back in order. .. . so I thought I'd bask in some limelight at least for awhile.wink.gif

And. . . not too much going on here anymore anyway except we got to help Maynard out. smile.gif
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Sorry about that yes I did use the last settings you posted.
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Yeah, I love the old silver faced solid state 70s gear. Not much into tube stuff though. Beautiful Sony receiver you have there. Ive got some nice Realistic receivers from that era. Would like to pick up some more Pioneer, Marantz, Sansui, and even Kenwood from thate era. I dabble in some later stuff, but really picky. Ive got some great cassette gear from the late 70s and early 80s. Ive been itching to get a R2R, but a lot of the better stuff is too rich for my blood, for just tinkering around with. Specifically a Teac machine. Some of the Akais are nice too. That Pioneer 707 is a real desireable unit as well.

Wanting to upgrade my 480p LCD Front Projector, Optoma H31 to a Panny 720p or Epson 1080p that I mentioned. Using it on a Panavision Greywolf 92" Screen. I originally had an Infocus 4805 that I fed with 1x1 Pixel Mapping from a DVD source. I like the LCD better overall than the DLP Darkchip (which are nice dont get me wrong), just different strokes for different folks. Thought about picking up an ultra high dollar Sharp Professional or Sim2 projector, but probably bypass that curiousity.

Im a dabbler and like to learn, know, and experience things first hand....as well as enjoy A/V content along the way.



Right now I have the Optoma H31 854x480 setup with the 92" gray screen which I run an Panasonic S97 DVD Player as the source and a Vizio GV42LF true matte LCD which I use much more frequently, hooked up to OTA Antenna, Roku Box, an Oppo 970HD.
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Ok... thanks! Enjoy. I take it they are less "yellow" than the warm ones? I actually have the cool setting for OTA B&W movies since sometimes the gray scale is off from the TV station/equipment.
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Im with you, Otto. I think that set top boxes like Roku and AppleTV, laptops, netbooks, and even the Blu Ray Player with integrated internet streaming, as well as DNLA Media Players like the Western Digital Live or Popcorn Hour, and dedicated HTPCs in sleek boxes like the Revo or the Mac Mini are the way to go. Primarily because the hardware is easily upgradable (not to mention the software tends to be more stable and/or capable). And lets face it the hardware in most of these Smart TVs is woefully inadequate (and if not soon will be). You can even attach a wifi router/repeater to your TV is you want. This IMO should all be off board, the TV itself should focus on being a quality display and all that entails, including top not video processing, scaling, deinterlacing, etc, excellent connectivity (ports, inputs, outputs) and have Digital OTA and Cable tuner(s), and top that off with extensive image adjustment tools. And that is what it should focus on, period. The LG LD series was just such an animal.
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Not to mention, by having the streaming or "smart" features off board but routed to the TV via an HDMI connection, you get the full compliment of video picture adjustments as with any other HDMI connected device. Many times, built in streaming and other services like Netflix, the video adjustments and picture modes are a reduced menu as on the LG models for 2010 and 2011. Using my HTPC allows me access to so much more than just 2 or 3 media sources and much more upgradeable and future proof.
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About the Pioneer Kuro. I think the 720p models arent partcularly expensive. Ill probably shoot for one of those and or a Panny Commercial 720p (and ED 480p) 7UY, 8UK, 9UK generation or there abouts.
Edited by EscapeVelocity - 10/27/12 at 7:39pm
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I would go so far as to say that even dedicated set top boxes like the Roku and Apple TV are not the way to go flexibility-wise, but rather the general purpose computer with proper remote control integration (I know, a bit of a fantasy).

As we've seen with Roku, they're more upgrade-able than smart TVs, but they are also very downgrade-able, e.g. the disappearance of YouTube from Roku a while back (have they addressed that officially yet?). Sure, any content provider could drop PC support too, but that seems unlikely given the size of the market.

And Apple TV has great integration, but mainly within the limited Apple universe.

And some freebie options like Hulu are not available on set tops, only for-pay service like Hulu Plus.

Of course, a general purpose computer is never going to be able to provide the best integration AND the best content/service selection.

In my case, the living room is the domain of the HTPC where keyboard and mouse access are not a problem.

In the bedroom, a smart TV (love my 42LD550!) or set top works out best most of the time.

For my elderly parents, a super simple user interface and minimal choice is the only thing they have any chance of using with any efficacy. The Netflix queue-only playback support in something like the Seagate FAT+ box is the way to go. Even the possibility of them accidentally going down the more complicated interfaces for searching or browsing non-queue content and needing my help to get back to the queue is a problem.

Different strokes for different folks...
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Like everything else in the a/v universe, it ultimately comes down to personal preference. From smart tv's to professional calibrations/DIY calibrations/disk adjustments, audio systems, etc. Far too often I've seen AVS turn into a pi$$ing match between individuals because one person feels they are correct in their opinion based on science, experience, or whatever, and become arrogantly dogmatic in their approach to convince or prove others are wrong. Even the mods from time to time seem inconsistent in how they manage the threads and individuals. However, this discussion on smart tv's shows how AVS should be. We obviously have differing opinions on the usefulness of smart tv's but the discourse has been friendly and non-argumentative. Definitely what AVS is, and should continue to be, all about. And yes, my 2010 LD520 still looks as good as it did the day I took it out of the box and that's partly due to friendly and supportive help I received here.

Enough of my soap-box.............
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