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post #961 of 5047
11/14/10 at 9:03am
i've just bought a 42LD550 with 'J' panel. And I'm not satisfied with black-angles.
At center view black is perfect, but when I move to the side black washes out and it becomes bright.

Is it normal? Does this happen on other panels of the LD550 serie? Can be solved with calibration? Or may I look for a tv-exchange?
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post #962 of 5047
11/14/10 at 10:52am
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Originally Posted by zwilhandler View Post

i've just bought a 42LD550 with 'J' panel. And I'm not satisfied with black-angles.
At center view black is perfect, but when I move to the side black washes out and it becomes bright.

Is it normal? Does this happen on other panels of the LD550 series? Can be solved with calibration? Or may I look for a tv-exchange?

You need to look for similar numbers as these:

42LD550 -UB.CUSWLH

. . .on a small label on the side of the box. I'm not sure what yo mean by a "J" panel unless that is the letter in place of the "W" that designates an IPS panel.

All of the LD550 fade a bit off axis as LG doesn't seem to use a polarizing filter over the screen for this model year. On the other hand, without it, color is much better and so are blacks. IPS panels do not fade out off axis as much, however.

Also, the TV should be viewed with enter screen as close to eye level as possible for best off axis viewing. If the TV is mounted higher than eye level , fade will be worse no matter what panel the TV has.
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post #963 of 5047
11/14/10 at 12:36pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

You need to look for similar numbers as these:

42LD550 -UB.CUSWLH

. . .on a small label on the side of the box. I'm not sure what yo mean by a "J" panel unless that is the letter in place of the "W" that designates an IPS panel.

All of the LD550 fade a bit off axis as LG doesn't seem to use a polarizing filter over the screen for this model year. On the other hand, without it, color is much better and so are blacks. IPS panels do not fade out off axis as much, however.

Also, the TV should be viewed with enter screen as close to eye level as possible for best off axis viewing. If the TV is mounted higher than eye level , fade will be worse no matter what panel the TV has.

Code is: ZC.AEUJLJG and it's the same in all electronic shops i've visited. Is there a place in Service Menú to know who is the manufacturer of the panel? I've looked through rear grid but i can't see any text.
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post #964 of 5047
11/14/10 at 5:18pm
The major differences are 240hz vs 120hz and 200000:1 vs 150000:1 but there is a substantial price difference.
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post #965 of 5047
11/14/10 at 6:08pm
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The major differences are 240hz vs 120hz and 200000:1 vs 150000:1 but there is a substantial price difference.

There is some controversy in any real difference in visible performance regarding both 240HZ and the increased contrast ratio. See this article:

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news...129_53673.html


What is more important is that the 47" 47LD650 will likely have an LG made IPS LCD panel, whereas the 46LD550 would be from another source. Do a thread search in this thread and elsewhere on AVS about IPS vs. VA and other panels.

The IPS panel seems to have better color rendition and off axis viewing.
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post #966 of 5047
11/14/10 at 6:10pm
Thank you for your quick reply. Is the IPS panel worth the $400 difference?
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post #967 of 5047
11/14/10 at 11:30pm
Does anybody know if there is any way to tweak the white settings of the 47ld650. I swear if I dont fix the fuzzies on this tv soon I am going to throw it out the window
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post #968 of 5047
11/15/10 at 1:07pm
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HDMI Expert 1 Subtle should be great for DVD and Blu-ray stand alone players (not PS3).

Sorry to bring up a sort of old post, but why is the setting good for a standalone Blu-ray player but not a PS3? I'm curious as to what the distinction is, since I plan on using a PS3 as my Blu-ray player.

Thanks for all the helpful stuff, I got the 42LD520 for just under $600 during an Amazon sale! Quite an upgrade from my old 32" 720p Magnavox with no HDMI.
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post #969 of 5047
11/15/10 at 5:35pm
So I just got a 55LD520 yesterday (UA.AUSDLJR panel) at BB and am concerned that the off axis viewing might be a deal breaker, but I'm hoping maybe a setting can help. The viewing positions in the room are 8-10 ft from the screen and the max angle is about 23.5 degrees off center axis to each side. I have not yet had a chance to mess with the settings significantly or try Phase's, but there appears to be a good amount of washout at relatively small angles (probably around 10 degrees or less). Is this normal for this set at these viewing angles?

I feel like I've seen nothing but rave reviews for this TV and I'm wondering if there is an actual issue with my set. So far, I love the on-axis picture, but, while not completely horrible, the degradation in color and black level at the other seating positions is so noticeable compared to the on-axis seat that it's frustrating. Especially since on-axis seat is my wife's and off axis is mine My previous 3 yr old 40" Sony Bravia didn't have these angle issues. I also don't consider these extreme angles since I have this washout literally anything beyond the two seats where on-axis pretty much splits between them.

Also, when my Tivo HD was booting up I noticed that there appeared to be a bright area on the right side of the screen. I turned off all ambient lighting and it was still there. When I moved, the area jumped to the left side of the screen and on-axis it was still visible. I didn't notice it today and maybe I'm just going nuts, but now I can't seem to stop noticing it.

I am incredibly impressed with the picture quality, but this angle issue really has me bummed...
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post #970 of 5047
11/15/10 at 5:50pm
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Originally Posted by Gregalor View Post

Sorry to bring up a sort of old post, but why is the setting good for a standalone Blu-ray player but not a PS3? I'm curious as to what the distinction is, since I plan on using a PS3 as my Blu-ray player.

Thanks for all the helpful stuff, I got the 42LD520 for just under $600 during an Amazon sale! Quite an upgrade from my old 32" 720p Magnavox with no HDMI.

You can certainly try the Expert1 or 2 HDMI settings. PS3 systems have a different video setup (and possibly colorspace) than most stand alone DVD players, so settings for one may not look good for the other.

Going by what several other owners have said here, it may need further tweaks for PS3. That and gamers seem to like really boosted color , brightness, contrast, etc; which is not what you want for viewing movies or TV programming.
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post #971 of 5047
11/15/10 at 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

You can certainly try the Expert1 or 2 HDMI settings. PS3 systems have a different video setup (and possibly colorspace) than most stand alone DVD players, so settings for one may not look good for the other.

Going by what several other owners have said here, it may need further tweaks for PS3. That and gamers seem to like really boosted color , brightness, contrast, etc; which is not what you want for viewing movies or TV programming.

Gotcha. I'll plug in the Expert settings to get me close and then check it to a calibration disc for video content. For games, I can just switch it to another mode.
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post #972 of 5047
11/16/10 at 7:28am
Hello, I just got the 32LD550 the other day at costco for $399 as it was way better spec'd then all the other tv's at that price range. I have a few minor issues with it thus far. I want to first thank Phase for all the contribution to this thread, I used your HDMI Expert 1 settings and the tv seems to be ok, i personally would perfer it to pop a tiny bit more? Any idea what i could change? I dont want over exaggerated colors. Should i just turn the color up a tad? Also i couldnt find how to change the IRE Adj. Points R, G, B
100 0, 2, -3
90 -2, 2, -14
80 -2, 1, -10
70 -1, 0, -15
60 -2, 0, -16
50 2, 1, -14
40 4, 3, -14
30 2, 2, -10
20 2, 2, -11
10 1, 0, -6
0 0,-1, -4

i couldnt find that screen to input them?

My other concern is i get some MAJOR jittery/stuttering on a few channels/programs. it's like watching a laggy/choppy movie on a PC. So far it's done it on Comedy Central watching Weddng Crashers and CSI on Spike (all in HD w/ Cox) The bedroom has a samsung and it doesnt appear to do it. Those have only been the 2 instances it's done it. Any idea's? I'm replacing the Cox HD box this afternoon just incase. Also i got some pretty decent backlight bleed from the lower right hand corner. After apply phases settings it seems to be better, but it seems as if the longer the TV stays on the more noticeable when the screen goes all black.
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post #973 of 5047
11/16/10 at 8:00am
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Originally Posted by absoluteczech View Post

Hello, I just got the 32LD550 the other day at costco for $399 as it was way better spec'd then all the other tv's at that price range. I have a few minor issues with it thus far. I want to first thank Phase for all the contribution to this thread, I used your HDMI Expert 1 settings and the tv seems to be ok, i personally would perfer it to pop a tiny bit more? Any idea what i could change? I dont want over exaggerated colors. Should i just turn the color up a tad? Also i couldnt find how to change the
i couldnt find that screen to input them?

My other concern is i get some MAJOR jittery/stuttering on a few channels/programs. it's like watching a laggy/choppy movie on a PC. So far it's done it on Comedy Central watching Weddng Crashers and CSI on Spike (all in HD w/ Cox) The bedroom has a samsung and it doesnt appear to do it. Those have only been the 2 instances it's done it. Any idea's? I'm replacing the Cox HD box this afternoon just incase. Also i got some pretty decent backlight bleed from the lower right hand corner. After apply phases settings it seems to be better, but it seems as if the longer the TV stays on the more noticeable when the screen goes all black.

Hi and congratulations on the new TV.

Some of your concerns are notable and seem common among the 32LD550 regarding the cable box "stutter" and also the light bleed. Regarding the light bleed it seems 32" LCD panels are more prone to it. Since it's Costco, I would try another unit, plus, when you do try and ask/get one with the "W" in the little white model label on the box. Example: 32LD550 -UB.CSUWLH This will assure you get an IPS panel.

To enter the different IRE points, make sure you have 10 Point selected in the "Method" menu setting. Then make the first RGB entry at IRE100, step back up to 100IRE and left arrow it to ge to 90 IRE and make its entry, and so on.

If you want more pop and color try increasing color a bit but not to where reds glow or bleed. Also, you can try using the Medium setting for Dynamic Contrast especially for Daytime use. Lastly, you can set backlight up to a max of 35, but I would not recommend more.

Hope this helps. As far as the stutter goes, try turning off TruMotion, and also try a different setting for Real Cinema if it is avail able.
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post #974 of 5047
11/16/10 at 8:34am
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Originally Posted by Phase700B View Post

Hi and congratulations on the new TV.

Some of your concerns are notable and seem common among the 32LD550 regarding the cable box "stutter" and also the light bleed. Regarding the light bleed it seems 32" LCD panels are more prone to it. Since it's Costco, I would try another unit, plus, when you do try and ask/get one with the "W" in the little white model label on the box. Example: 32LD550 -UB.CSUWLH This will assure you get an IPS panel.

To enter the different IRE points, make sure you have 10 Point selected in the "Method" menu setting. Then make the first RGB entry at IRE100, step back up to 100IRE and left arrow it to ge to 90 IRE and make its entry, and so on.

If you want more pop and color try increasing color a bit but not to where reds glow or bleed. Also, you can try using the Medium setting for Dynamic Contrast especially for Daytime use. Lastly, you can set backlight up to a max of 35, but I would not recommend more.

Hope this helps. As far as the stutter goes, try turning off TruMotion, and also try a different setting for Real Cinema if it is avail able.

Thanks. My box does have a W on it. If it continues i'll try replacing it. Gotta love the 90 day replacement option Thanks again! I also have trumotion disabled as i dont like the soap opera effect.
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post #975 of 5047
11/16/10 at 9:59am
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So I just got a 55LD520 yesterday (UA.AUSDLJR panel) at BB and am concerned that the off axis viewing might be a deal breaker, but I'm hoping maybe a setting can help. The viewing positions in the room are 8-10 ft from the screen and the max angle is about 23.5 degrees off center axis to each side. I have not yet had a chance to mess with the settings significantly or try Phase's, but there appears to be a good amount of washout at relatively small angles (probably around 10 degrees or less). Is this normal for this set at these viewing angles?

I feel like I've seen nothing but rave reviews for this TV and I'm wondering if there is an actual issue with my set. So far, I love the on-axis picture, but, while not completely horrible, the degradation in color and black level at the other seating positions is so noticeable compared to the on-axis seat that it's frustrating. Especially since on-axis seat is my wife's and off axis is mine My previous 3 yr old 40" Sony Bravia didn't have these angle issues. I also don't consider these extreme angles since I have this washout literally anything beyond the two seats where on-axis pretty much splits between them.

Also, when my Tivo HD was booting up I noticed that there appeared to be a bright area on the right side of the screen. I turned off all ambient lighting and it was still there. When I moved, the area jumped to the left side of the screen and on-axis it was still visible. I didn't notice it today and maybe I'm just going nuts, but now I can't seem to stop noticing it.

I am incredibly impressed with the picture quality, but this angle issue really has me bummed...

I have very similar seating position setup as you do, and I have say that the viewing angle issue is pretty common for non-IPS panels. However for me, the slight washed out color when viewed off center is not significant at all, at least you have to really move your head from center to the side and back just to notice the difference. On the other hand, I have never experienced any light leakage on mine.
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post #976 of 5047
11/16/10 at 10:50am
stupid question, but our tv's (550 model) are not 3D capable, right?
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post #977 of 5047
11/16/10 at 11:23am
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stupid question, but our tv's (550 model) are not 3D capable, right?
Nope
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post #978 of 5047
11/16/10 at 12:28pm
thanks.
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post #979 of 5047
11/16/10 at 12:57pm
Dumb question, but what happened to Pandora being on netcast? The literature that came with my TV (46LD550) shows Pandora being in Netcast? I'm on the latest firmware...

Anybody have it on their TV? I know its present on LG's blu-rays...This was one of the reasons I was excited to get the LG tv....

Infact, the link for my TV on LG.com shows Pandora on there!!!

http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/...tv-46LD550.jsp
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post #980 of 5047
11/16/10 at 6:31pm
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Dumb question, but what happened to Pandora being on netcast? The literature that came with my TV (46LD550) shows Pandora being in Netcast? I'm on the latest firmware...

Anybody have it on their TV? I know its present on LG's blu-rays...This was one of the reasons I was excited to get the LG tv....

Infact, the link for my TV on LG.com shows Pandora on there!!!

http://www.lg.com/us/tv-audio-video/...tv-46LD550.jsp
I noticed in earlier ads for the xxLD550 Pandora was shown to be included in Netcast. Just a guess, LG wants us to buy an LG Blu-ray player to go along with the LG TV so we then have the full suite of Netcast features.

But then, why the redundant Netflix, VuDu, etc? ? ?

On the other hand. . . I don;t really want the TV on all the time just to listen to music, so maybe that is their thought.
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post #981 of 5047
11/16/10 at 7:00pm
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On the other hand, I have never experienced any light leakage on mine.

The attached images are with the backlight at 0, black screen (I just left my surround sound off so it's just the black LG No Input screen), and from my three primary viewing positions. You can see it somewhat on-axis, but much more noticeable to the sides. Do you have anything like this?
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post #982 of 5047
11/17/10 at 4:02am
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On the other hand. . . I don;t really want the TV on all the time just to listen to music, so maybe that is their thought.

Well, you can use the screen-off energy saver mode and avoid the power consumed by the backlight while the audio continues to play.
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post #983 of 5047
11/17/10 at 4:13am
I just set up my new 42LD550 (a "W" panel from amazon) and it's been good so far, though I did notice two dead pixels in the lower left corner that are visible only if I've got my face pressed up against the screen with a white background and look at the area off-axis.

The TV's DLNA playback seems to have trouble with videos that I have saved in WMV 9 format. The video plays fine (so I don't think it's a network, which is wired, issue), but the audio is *very* intermittent. The manual lists .wmv as supported, including WMA 9 audio, etc. Any thoughts on what might be going on?

MPEG-2 files and .mp4 files with H.264 video and AAC audio play back fine too.

That'll teach me to use WMV :-( (but to my eye, it offered the best quality for the file size for the video data and transcoder tools I had on hand).

EDIT: Grrr...I just looked at my transcoder tools settings (BeyondTV's ShowSqueeze feature) and it turns out that their default audio codec for WMV files is "Windows Media Audio 10 Professional", but the TV apparently supports only the listed "WMA 9 Professional" and "WMA Standard" formats :-(. I'll try dialing it down to the "Windows Media Audio 9.2" format and see how that goes.
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post #984 of 5047
11/17/10 at 5:26am
Hm...is Nero MediaHome 4 Essentials supposed to be included with the LD550 TVs? I've read references to it in this thread and reviews on other sites say it was included, but my TV came with a disc that includes only the LG manuals and acrobat reader. No Nero software that I can see.
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post #985 of 5047
11/17/10 at 9:08am
Still working on audio. LG service is bad one rep said yes and another no. Has anyone with a 52LD550 able to pass 5.1 audio out of the optical. I can only get stereo. Thanks.
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post #986 of 5047
11/17/10 at 9:42am
46ld550 can. Although I had to delay it 10ms on the receiver to avoid lipsinking issues.
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post #987 of 5047
11/17/10 at 10:32am
How is the 52LD550? I was at BB today and they have this in their Magnolia section as a Magnolia certified TV. It is on sale this week too, so I am considering picking it up. This was post from a page back on my viewing area:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post19471497
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post #988 of 5047
11/17/10 at 11:41am
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Originally Posted by jeffwilsonn View Post

46ld550 can. Although I had to delay it 10ms on the receiver to avoid lipsinking issues.

Did you have to do anything to enable this? Also do you have the digital audio out section in your audio menu?

Mine doesn't so I wondering if its a firmware issue that needs updating.
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post #989 of 5047
11/17/10 at 3:18pm
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Hm...is Nero MediaHome 4 Essentials supposed to be included with the LD550 TVs?

UPDATE: I sent off an e-mail to LG support via their web site and within minutes, someone replied asking me for my mailing address to where they'll be sending me the install media. So far, good recovery from LG on this issue for me...
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post #990 of 5047
11/17/10 at 3:47pm
Mine came with a CD but is for PC only. Anyone knows if there is a Mac alternative?
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